Am 29.01.2011 21:30, schrieb Florian Klämpfl:
Am 29.01.2011 19:04, schrieb Paul Ishenin:
30.01.2011 0:50, Sven Barth wrote:
Should I add the flag set to TSymtable or tstoredsymtable? (only the
latter can write/save itself to ppu)
I would add it to TSymTable.
I really wonder that symtables
Am 31.01.2011 00:57, schrieb Paul Ishenin:
31.01.2011 0:26, Sven Barth wrote:
Timings without that change:
Run 1:
real 1m3.461s
user 0m45.957s
sys 0m4.590s
Timings with that change:
Run 1:
real 1m8.919s
user 0m46.597s
sys 0m4.166s
But previously you gave 2 minutes values.
Yes, I found
Paul Ishenin schrieb:
For some reason the visibility is completely ignored here. I can add a
class helper to the strict private or even move it to another unit - it
is always visible.
IMO class helper methods always should become visible as part of the
class, regardless of where they are
On 30.01.2011 09:03, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Paul Ishenin schrieb:
For some reason the visibility is completely ignored here. I can add a
class helper to the strict private or even move it to another unit -
it is always visible.
IMO class helper methods always should become visible as
On 30.01.2011 04:30, Paul Ishenin wrote:
30.01.2011 5:22, Sven Barth wrote:
Ok, I have now implemented a set of flags in TSymtable of which one is
set when the (global-,static-)symtable contains a class helper (I
haven't refactored b_needs_init_final yet).
Here are the new results with the
30.01.2011 15:45, Sven Barth wrote:
Imo it works much better now.
Only one minute slower in the complete run instead of four. I let you
guys decide whether this is good enough ^^
2m22.980s -
2m15.362s =
0m7.xxxs - were is a minute?
How often is the compiler compiled completly during a make
On 30.01.2011 09:55, Paul Ishenin wrote:
30.01.2011 15:45, Sven Barth wrote:
Imo it works much better now.
Only one minute slower in the complete run instead of four. I let you
guys decide whether this is good enough ^^
2m22.980s -
2m15.362s =
0m7.xxxs - were is a minute?
That was two runs
On 29.01.2011 23:22, Sven Barth wrote:
Ok, I have now implemented a set of flags in TSymtable of which one is
set when the (global-,static-)symtable contains a class helper (I
haven't refactored b_needs_init_final yet).
I have commited the changes now as well (I was too tired yesterday), so
30.01.2011 16:22, Sven Barth wrote:
I have commited the changes now as well (I was too tired yesterday),
so please fell free to critize them (especially the ones in ppudump)
as I need to build on on these changes regarding b_needs_init_final
(or should this wait until everything is merged back
30.01.2011 16:22, Sven Barth wrote:
I have commited the changes now as well (I was too tired yesterday),
so please fell free to critize them (especially the ones in ppudump).
Why do you need ibsymtableoptions ?
Best regards,
Paul Ishenin
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On 30.01.2011 11:30, Paul Ishenin wrote:
30.01.2011 16:22, Sven Barth wrote:
I have commited the changes now as well (I was too tired yesterday),
so please fell free to critize them (especially the ones in ppudump).
Why do you need ibsymtableoptions ?
tstoredsymtable stores only definitions
On 30 Jan 2011, at 09:45, Sven Barth wrote:
Only one minute slower in the complete run instead of four. I let you guys
decide whether this is good enough ^^
It's still a lot of overhead.
An alternative solution could be to add a hashtable (tfphaslist) to tmodule
whose entries are hashed on
Am 29.01.2011 23:22, schrieb Sven Barth:
Here are the new results with the search for class helpers enabled (only
two runs this time):
Run 1:
real2m22.980s
user0m47.140s
sys0m4.333s
Run 2:
real2m15.362s
user0m47.274s
sys0m4.140s
With which times are those
On 30.01.2011 12:13, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
Am 30.01.2011 09:45, schrieb Sven Barth:
On 30.01.2011 04:30, Paul Ishenin wrote:
30.01.2011 5:22, Sven Barth wrote:
Ok, I have now implemented a set of flags in TSymtable of which one is
set when the (global-,static-)symtable contains a class
On 30.01.2011 12:06, Jonas Maebe wrote:
On 30 Jan 2011, at 09:45, Sven Barth wrote:
Only one minute slower in the complete run instead of four. I let you guys
decide whether this is good enough ^^
It's still a lot of overhead.
Yes and that's why I'm thankful for every suggestion I can
30.01.2011 15:45, Sven Barth wrote:
Only one minute slower in the complete run instead of four. I let you
guys decide whether this is good enough ^^
How often is the compiler compiled completly during a make cycle?
I still see an ability to optimize your implementation.
procedure
On Sunday, 30. January 2011 12.13:21 Florian Klämpfl wrote:
Actually I think anything about a ten percent slower compiler will
people make cry ... And as far as I understand, for projects with a lot
of units it will be even worse, right?
I cry if FPC doesn't compile at least ten percent
Am 30.01.2011 12:37, schrieb Martin Schreiber:
On Sunday, 30. January 2011 12.13:21 Florian Klämpfl wrote:
Actually I think anything about a ten percent slower compiler will
people make cry ... And as far as I understand, for projects with a lot
of units it will be even worse, right?
I cry
On 30 Jan 2011, at 12:37, Martin Schreiber wrote:
I cry if FPC doesn't compile at least ten percent *faster* than the previous
release...
At least on Mac OS X/i386, we are pretty close to that currently as far as
compiling the compiler with itself is concerned:
* Compiling it with 2.4.2:
On 30.01.2011 12:36, Paul Ishenin wrote:
30.01.2011 15:45, Sven Barth wrote:
Only one minute slower in the complete run instead of four. I let you
guys decide whether this is good enough ^^
How often is the compiler compiled completly during a make cycle?
I still see an ability to optimize
In our previous episode, Sven Barth said:
Actually I think anything about a ten percent slower compiler will
people make cry ... And as far as I understand, for projects with a lot
of units it will be even worse, right?
I cry if FPC doesn't compile at least ten percent *faster* than
30.01.2011 19:41, Sven Barth wrote:
procedure update_unit_symtable_options;
var
st: tsymtable;
begin
st:=owner;
while not(st.symtabletype in [globalsymtable,staticsymtable]) do
st:=st.defowner.owner;
if objecttype in [odt_classhelper,odt_objccategory] then
Sven Barth schrieb:
Sorry, I don't understand what you want to tell here.
Sorry2, I'll retry.
I personally expect a class helper that is defined inside a private
section of a class not to be available in another unit like I can't
access a field or another type defined in there as well.
Jonas Maebe schrieb:
An alternative solution could be to add a hashtable (tfphaslist) to
tmodule whose entries are hashed on the qualified class names
(unit$classname, since different units can contain classes with the
same name). The value of such an entry would a tfpobjectlist of class
On 31-1-2011 2:06, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Jonas Maebe schrieb:
Is the hashtable *really* rebuilt with every push and pop of another
symtable? It would be much easier to have a hashtable per symtable,
that deserves no further modifications. When all hashtables use the
same hash
Am Montag, 31. Januar 2011 00:57 schrieb Paul Ishenin:
31.01.2011 0:26, Sven Barth wrote:
Timings without that change:
Run 1:
real1m3.461s
user0m45.957s
sys0m4.590s
Timings with that change:
Run 1:
real1m8.919s
user0m46.597s
sys0m4.166s
But
Am 29.01.2011 13:25, schrieb Sven Barth:
Do you (especially @Devs) think that this is a sufficient approach or
should this be done another way? (Note: I have not yet profiled
compiling the compiler once with that search enabled and once without)
Profile compiler compilation first, then we can
On 29.01.2011 16:08, Florian Klaempfl wrote:
Am 29.01.2011 13:25, schrieb Sven Barth:
Do you (especially @Devs) think that this is a sufficient approach or
should this be done another way? (Note: I have not yet profiled
compiling the compiler once with that search enabled and once without)
29.01.2011 19:25, Sven Barth wrote:
Does someone know a good place to link this page from? Maybe something
where other language/compiler features are referenced from or can be
linked to in the future.
http://wiki.freepascal.org/delphi_language_features_which_fpc_does_not_have
29.01.2011 23:31, Sven Barth wrote:
Done. Differences are dramatic (at least on my Linux PC)
Try to add a set of flags to the symtable class. Store/Load it from/to
ppu. When you add a def into check it if it is a class helper and add a
flag if so. In you search algorithm test the flag first
29.01.2011 23:41, Paul Ishenin wrote:
I also noticed that you check only unit symtables. I don't know what
if you add a class helper into a record/class/object type section?
This code works in delphi:
program Project42;
{$APPTYPE CONSOLE}
type
TFoo = class
class procedure DoSomething;
On 29.01.2011 17:35, Paul Ishenin wrote:
29.01.2011 19:25, Sven Barth wrote:
Does someone know a good place to link this page from? Maybe something
where other language/compiler features are referenced from or can be
linked to in the future.
On 29.01.2011 17:41, Paul Ishenin wrote:
29.01.2011 23:31, Sven Barth wrote:
Done. Differences are dramatic (at least on my Linux PC)
Try to add a set of flags to the symtable class. Store/Load it from/to
ppu. When you add a def into check it if it is a class helper and add a
flag if so. In
On 29.01.2011 17:45, Paul Ishenin wrote:
29.01.2011 23:41, Paul Ishenin wrote:
I also noticed that you check only unit symtables. I don't know what
if you add a class helper into a record/class/object type section?
This code works in delphi:
program Project42;
{$APPTYPE CONSOLE}
type
TFoo
29.01.2011 23:58, Sven Barth wrote:
This is one of those moments where I need to restrain myself to not
swear for the whole world to hear...
*sigh*
I had the same feeling when I found that generics are stored as TFoo,
in the delphy symtable and therefore it is possible to have TFoo,
TFooT,
On 29.01.2011 18:08, Paul Ishenin wrote:
29.01.2011 23:58, Sven Barth wrote:
This is one of those moments where I need to restrain myself to not
swear for the whole world to hear...
*sigh*
I had the same feeling when I found that generics are stored as TFoo,
in the delphy symtable and
On 29.01.2011 17:35, Paul Ishenin wrote:
29.01.2011 19:25, Sven Barth wrote:
Does someone know a good place to link this page from? Maybe something
where other language/compiler features are referenced from or can be
linked to in the future.
On 29.01.2011 17:41, Paul Ishenin wrote:
29.01.2011 23:31, Sven Barth wrote:
Done. Differences are dramatic (at least on my Linux PC)
Try to add a set of flags to the symtable class. Store/Load it from/to
ppu. When you add a def into check it if it is a class helper and add a
flag if so. In
30.01.2011 0:50, Sven Barth wrote:
Should I add the flag set to TSymtable or tstoredsymtable? (only the
latter can write/save itself to ppu)
I would add it to TSymTable.
Best regards,
Paul Ishenin
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Am 29.01.2011 19:04, schrieb Paul Ishenin:
30.01.2011 0:50, Sven Barth wrote:
Should I add the flag set to TSymtable or tstoredsymtable? (only the
latter can write/save itself to ppu)
I would add it to TSymTable.
I really wonder that symtables have no flag set yet. Please move
Am 29.01.2011 17:58, schrieb Sven Barth:
This is one of those moments where I need to restrain myself to not
swear for the whole world to hear...
Ok, you'll really swear as soon as people test their code with your
implementation :)
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On 29.01.2011 21:30, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
Am 29.01.2011 19:04, schrieb Paul Ishenin:
30.01.2011 0:50, Sven Barth wrote:
Should I add the flag set to TSymtable or tstoredsymtable? (only the
latter can write/save itself to ppu)
I would add it to TSymTable.
I really wonder that symtables
On 29.01.2011 21:34, Florian Klämpfl wrote:
Am 29.01.2011 17:58, schrieb Sven Barth:
This is one of those moments where I need to restrain myself to not
swear for the whole world to hear...
Ok, you'll really swear as soon as people test their code with your
implementation :)
I have
On 29 Jan 2011, at 21:46, Sven Barth wrote:
I have normally no problems with restraining myself, but seeing what
Borland/CodeGear/Embarcadero allows in its language dialect...
I would suggest to file bug reports with Embarcadero about this. Then you can
also find out whether this is
On 29.01.2011 17:31, Sven Barth wrote:
On 29.01.2011 16:08, Florian Klaempfl wrote:
Am 29.01.2011 13:25, schrieb Sven Barth:
Do you (especially @Devs) think that this is a sufficient approach or
should this be done another way? (Note: I have not yet profiled
compiling the compiler once with
30.01.2011 5:22, Sven Barth wrote:
Ok, I have now implemented a set of flags in TSymtable of which one is
set when the (global-,static-)symtable contains a class helper (I
haven't refactored b_needs_init_final yet).
Here are the new results with the search for class helpers enabled
(only two
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