On 06 Dec 2012, at 04:16, Nikolay Nikolov wrote:
Having a library for arbitrary-precision arithmetic like gmp is a
huge advantage in these competitions and making it easy to setup by
people who are clueless idiots and know only how to press next,
next, next so people who chose to compete
In our previous episode, Jonas Maebe said:
Having a library for arbitrary-precision arithmetic like gmp is a
huge advantage in these competitions and making it easy to setup by
people who are clueless idiots and know only how to press next,
next, next so people who chose to compete
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Jonas Maebe jonas.ma...@elis.ugent.be wrote:
If a major problem is really the lack of standard support for
arbitrary-precision arithmetic, does that not mean that C and C++ are no
longer serious options either?
Actually, this is considered a drawback of C++
Am 06.12.2012 11:03, schrieb Alexander Klenin:
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Jonas Maebe jonas.ma...@elis.ugent.be wrote:
If a major problem is really the lack of standard support for
arbitrary-precision arithmetic, does that not mean that C and C++ are no
longer serious options either?
Jonas Maebe schrieb:
If a major problem is really the lack of standard support for
arbitrary-precision arithmetic, does that not mean that C and C++ are no
longer serious options either?
IMO that leaves the domain of general purpose languages.
Here I see the boundary at operator level. A
As an ex-competitive programmer and multiple IOI and BOI medalist, let
me try to explain, although I realize it might be difficult for normal
programmers to understand, but let's just say that:
- the people who setup the programming environment for these
competitions are not the same people
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Nikolay Nikolov
nick...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Just to make it clear how these people usually think, I was part of the
IOI2009 technical committee and I was responsible for setting up the pascal
environment (fpc lazarus under ubuntu) to work. In that year,
Nikolay Nikolov schrieb:
As an ex-competitive programmer and multiple IOI and BOI medalist, let
me try to explain, although I realize it might be difficult for normal
programmers to understand, but let's just say that:
- the people who setup the programming environment for these
competitions
On 12/2/2012 4:31 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
I'm not really happy with ports of sophisticated C libraries. When
working on the Abbrevia sourcecode I came across a problem in one of the
decompression modules.
Abbrevia's DEFLATE engine isn't a port of zlib, it's an implementation
of RFC
Craig Peterson schrieb:
On 12/2/2012 4:31 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
[...]
That's why I think that such libraries should be maintained by their
own developers, so that all bug fixes and improvements become
available immediately to the FPC users.
Zlib is stable, not because it's
In my ongoing efforts to prevent elimination of Pascal/FPC from a set
of languages used to teach programming, I have recently encountered
another problem:
although FPC does include gmp unit for arbitrary-precision calculations,
programs compiled with it require gmp dynamic library.
This library
On Sun, 2 Dec 2012, Alexander Klenin wrote:
In my ongoing efforts to prevent elimination of Pascal/FPC from a set
of languages used to teach programming, I have recently encountered
another problem:
although FPC does include gmp unit for arbitrary-precision calculations,
programs compiled
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Sven Barth pascaldra...@googlemail.com wrote:
We can not bundle such libaries as different (Linux) distributions will have
different dependencies like different versions of the libc and then this
library would not load anyway (and Free Pascal would be accused for
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
mich...@freepascal.org wrote:
That is a bit of a difficult one. gmp just provides just the interface of an
external library.
If we do it fo this one, we should do it for all the libraries for which we
provide headers.
For marketing
On Sun, 2 Dec 2012, Alexander Klenin wrote:
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
mich...@freepascal.org wrote:
That is a bit of a difficult one. gmp just provides just the interface of an
external library.
If we do it fo this one, we should do it for all the libraries for
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
mich...@freepascal.org wrote:
Writing high-quality arbitrary precision arithmetics is hard.
The fact that Free Pascal uses GMP instead of homegrown solution has
actually earned some praise.
Define homegown ? GMP most likely also is
On Sun, December 2, 2012 13:35, Alexander Klenin wrote:
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Michael Van Canneyt
mich...@freepascal.org wrote:
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In short term, however, adding gmp.dll in 2.6.2 release will make it
available at least
for upcoming Russian Olympiad in Informatics.
Well, 2.6.2 is
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tomas Hajny xhaj...@hajny.biz wrote:
As for fairness, the usual argument is just solve problems in
Java/Python,
which is exactly what I am trying to prevent :)
Who defines what is the right file to choose if there are multiple
options?
I am not sure which
On 2 Dec 12, at 16:45, Alexander Klenin wrote:
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Tomas Hajny xhaj...@hajny.biz wrote:
As for fairness, the usual argument is just solve problems in
Java/Python,
which is exactly what I am trying to prevent :)
Who defines what is the right file to choose if
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Tomas Hajny xhaj...@hajny.biz wrote:
On 2 Dec 12, at 16:45, Alexander Klenin wrote:
I am not sure which options do you mean,
I refer to the dll mentioned here: http://wiki.freepascal.org/gmp
I meant multiple 2.6.2 installers (in particular, if we as the
Am 02.12.2012 19:50, schrieb Alexander Klenin:
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Tomas Hajny xhaj...@hajny.biz wrote:
On 2 Dec 12, at 16:45, Alexander Klenin wrote:
I am not sure which options do you mean,
I refer to the dll mentioned here: http://wiki.freepascal.org/gmp
I meant multiple 2.6.2
Michael Van Canneyt schrieb:
Is there not a native pascal solution for arbitrary precision math ? I
seem to remember that there are several ones floating around, maybe we
should simply include one of them.
I'm not really happy with ports of sophisticated C libraries. When
working on the
On 2 Dec 12, at 21:50, Alexander Klenin wrote:
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Tomas Hajny xhaj...@hajny.biz wrote:
On 2 Dec 12, at 16:45, Alexander Klenin wrote:
I am not sure which options do you mean,
I refer to the dll mentioned here: http://wiki.freepascal.org/gmp
I meant multiple
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