I was doing some tests with fpmake and came across what appears to be an
inconsistency.
When fpmaking a program a units/cpu-os is created but the commandline
parameters for FPC are -FE. which causes the tool and possible other
units to be placed in the directory where the program is located.
Well there are some things ofcourse wrong with Free Pascal:
1. First the name:
Free
Bussiness people don't believe in Free.
First you must define a target in business people. Which is easy. First and
for all, FPC is interested in business people that have something to offer.
And offering a
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Skybuck Flying wrote:
Well there are some things ofcourse wrong with Free Pascal:
I'm assuming you were being sarcastic or ironic. You can
assume the same when you read this reply.
1. First the name:
Free
Bussiness people don't believe in Free.
So what ?
We
On 13/08/07, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Use Lazarus for a month daily, to develop a real program, and then come back.
People who have used lazarus for about 1 hour and then tell us
'this and that feature is not working'
just do not have any right of voice. Lazarus has quite a
As the subject already suggest, this thread is off-topic here and already
quite lengthy. I'd like to kindly ask everybody interested in this
discussion to move it to fpc-other list, which is dedicated to this kind
of stuff.
Thanks a lot
Tomas
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Hi Michael,
I will write here instead of inline...
I personally know a company that wrote a product using Delphi, and had
an already existed product, but when they came to raise some money,
the only thing that really interested the investors where that they
use Delphi instead of Java, and forced
I was doing some tests with fpmake and came across what appears to be an
inconsistency.
When fpmaking a program a units/cpu-os is created but the commandline
parameters for FPC are -FE. which causes the tool and possible other
units to be placed in the directory where the program is located.
Puff, Delphi IDE is way faster then Lazarus. Beside of the need of that
idiotic X11 under MacOSX. I will just develop my applications in Mono
together with Cocoa# this works perfectly well together with Chrome. :)
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Weyert de Boer schreef:
Puff, Delphi IDE is way faster then Lazarus. Beside of the need of that
idiotic X11 under MacOSX. I will just develop my applications in Mono
together with Cocoa# this works perfectly well together with Chrome. :)
Good arguments. A name change would make no difference.
Weyert de Boer schrieb:
Puff, Delphi IDE is way faster then Lazarus. Beside of the need of that
idiotic X11 under MacOSX. I will just develop my applications in Mono
together with Cocoa# this works perfectly well together with Chrome. :)
And how would a name change change this?
I was doing some tests with fpmake and came across what appears to be an
inconsistency.
When fpmaking a program a units/cpu-os is created but the commandline
parameters for FPC are -FE. which causes the tool and possible other
units to be placed in the directory where the program is located.
Vincent Snijders schrieb:
Weyert de Boer schreef:
Puff, Delphi IDE is way faster then Lazarus. Beside of the need of
that idiotic X11 under MacOSX. I will just develop my applications in
Mono together with Cocoa# this works perfectly well together with
Chrome. :)
Good arguments. A name
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, ik wrote:
Hi Michael,
I have a lot more examples of such problems using the Pascal and the
way it sounds...
And in the bottom line, it's all about marketing.
For business maybe.
People forget the bottom line; FPC and Lazarus are HOBBY projects
for the core
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was doing some tests with fpmake and came across what appears to be an
inconsistency.
When fpmaking a program a units/cpu-os is created but the commandline
parameters for FPC are -FE. which causes the tool and possible other
units to
Puff, Delphi IDE is way faster then Lazarus. Beside of the need of that
idiotic X11 under MacOSX. I will just develop my applications in Mono
together with Cocoa# this works perfectly well together with Chrome. :)
Is that combination (C#/Mono-Cocoa#) portable? It is not fair to compare a
Vincent Snijders wrote:
Weyert de Boer schreef:
Puff, Delphi IDE is way faster then Lazarus. Beside of the need of
that idiotic X11 under MacOSX. I will just develop my applications in
Mono together with Cocoa# this works perfectly well together with
Chrome. :)
Nothing, indeed. I don't
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was doing some tests with fpmake and came across what appears to be
an
inconsistency.
When fpmaking a program a units/cpu-os is created but the commandline
parameters for FPC are -FE. which causes the tool and possible
other
units
On 8/13/07, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, ik wrote:
Hi Michael,
I have a lot more examples of such problems using the Pascal and the
way it sounds...
And in the bottom line, it's all about marketing.
For business maybe.
Also for Open source
On 8/13/07, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
place.
If you do happen to make money on the side with it: congratulations.
But do not expect business arguments to have any influence whatsoever
on the core developers. That includes name changes, which are simply
not
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, ik wrote:
People forget the bottom line; FPC and Lazarus are HOBBY projects
for the core developers. We do not want or need to make money with
them. Otherwise we would not have made it open source in the first
place.
If you do happen to make money on the side
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Marco van de Voort wrote:
On 8/13/07, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
place.
If you do happen to make money on the side with it: congratulations.
But do not expect business arguments to have any influence whatsoever
on the core developers.
But do not expect us to change our motivation.
This is one of many reasons why I trust FPC over Delphi (Borland/CodeGear):
the great and noble motivation of the core developers. I do respect such
motivation. Not many developers are able to survive with such motivation. In
many cases, such
I have a lot more examples of such problems using the Pascal and the
way it sounds...
And in the bottom line, it's all about marketing.
It would probably help if it had a name other than Free. It refers to
free as in OS, of course, but many people read it as free (as in beer)
and thus
It makes better sense when you put it that way.
Cheers,
Mark.
Michael Van Canneyt wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Marco van de Voort wrote:
On 8/13/07, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
place.
If you do happen to make money on the side with it: congratulations.
But do
On 13/08/07, Marco van de Voort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One can develop FPC for OSX with Carbon too. (and that is done, e.g. Pixel).
And hopefully not to far in the future using fpGUI as well. :-)
Graeme.
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JK Smith at Grid-Sky wrote:
At any rate, I've found that while you or I might be very diligent at
explicitly freeing resources, on a complicated system, some programmers
simply are not, and we have to work with these programmers.
The point is, the traditional software warranties won't be
ik wrote:
Hi,
I wonder how can we make Pascal and FPC more attractive to people, and
I believe in what Donal Knuth have said:
The most important thing in the programming language is the name. A
language will not succeed without a good name. I have recently
invented a very good name and now I
This project is with a company that just spent 4+ million USD on a
Java solution (client and server side) to replace all their old Pascal
code, then, their clients told them they didn't like the Java solution,
that they wanted to keep using the Pascal stuff!
Isn't Java also free? :-P
Oh, and
Bisma Jayadi wrote:
This project is with a company that just spent 4+ million USD on a
Java solution (client and server side) to replace all their old
Pascal code, then, their clients told them they didn't like the Java
solution, that they wanted to keep using the Pascal stuff!
Isn't Java
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Tom Walsh wrote:
ik wrote:
Hi,
I wonder how can we make Pascal and FPC more attractive to people, and
I believe in what Donal Knuth have said:
The most important thing in the programming language is the name. A
language will not succeed without a good name. I
Tom Walsh schrieb:
ik wrote:
Hi,
I wonder how can we make Pascal and FPC more attractive to people, and
I believe in what Donal Knuth have said:
The most important thing in the programming language is the name. A
language will not succeed without a good name. I have recently
invented a
Op Mon, 13 Aug 2007, schreef Michael Van Canneyt:
Obviously their clients have more sense than this company does...
Mod up +1 Insightfull...
Yes, this is the whole point, end users like Pascal applications more than
Java applications. (Because their are faster, use les smemory,
install
I am doing two free-lance projects at the moment for two clients. One
insists that I use C++ and Qt. When I suggested Delphi (I started this 5
years ago) he was offended. The other client didn't care. When I told
him about installation of one singe EXE (no libraries, dll's and other
Hi,
Has anybody managed to use Xprint (under Linux or any other *nix
environment) with Free Pascal?
Regards,
- Graeme -
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In fpmkunit.pp I found the function FixPath for which I don't understand
the exact purpose of. What happens is that if I issue an install command
the BaseInstallDir takes the FPCDIR env variable (which is c:\fpc in my
case) (line 1472). This value is then passed on to FixPath which
converts
As I mentioned before, assuming some degree of liability for your work is on
the horizon.
From
http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2007/08/10/house-of-lords-inquiry-personal-internet-security/
Quote:
The third area, and this is where the committee has been most far-sighted,
and therefore in the
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