plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hello, I'm working on a project for a client where documents are created and maintained using conditional text and text insets. When moving (copying) files to a new location, text insets are not automatically recoverable like image references. Does anyone know about a plug in or an

RE: plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Spectrum Writing
Wim, Rick Quatro developed such a script for me and it works beautifully. Contact him at FrameExpert.com. TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com i...@spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

OT: Creating hyperlinks in PDF from Word source doc

2010-04-12 Thread Jon Harvey
Everyone, I have a Word document in which all entries in the TOC are hyperlinked. The problem is that the hyperlinks do not work when the document is printed to a PDF. I'm using the Rich Content PDF job option in distiller 8.0. The Word doc is in docx format opened in Word 2003. I've opend

RE: Creating hyperlinks in PDF from Word source doc

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Jon Harvey wrote: I have a Word document in which all entries in the TOC are hyperlinked. The problem is that the hyperlinks do not work when the document is printed to a PDF. I'm using the Rich Content PDF job option in distiller 8.0. The Word doc is in docx format opened in Word 2003.

RE: plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hello Andy, Thank you for your suggestion. I have the golehtek plug in. Unfortunately it doesn’t work for me because the clients directory structure is not supported: in the folder names special characters (like ) are used and it’s not up to me to change that. Otherwise the move

RE: Creating hyperlinks in PDF from Word source doc

2010-04-12 Thread Fred Ridder
Or, if you are using Word 2007, try the Save As XPS or PDF command. When our corporate IT folks first upgraded our pubs group to Office 2007 and Acrobat Pro 9.0, we were seeing some problems with using the Acrobat commands to produce PDFs (I don't remember the details, I'm afraid...). We did

RE: plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
There is a plug-in that will do this for you, it is called Archive by Bruce Foster. If you need to move a copy of your project to another location it will copy graphic, Frame file, and text insets. It also goes through the Frame documents and changes the pointers to the graphics and text inset so

RE: plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hello Ann, Thanks for the suggestion. The issue is that I don't want to copy graphics and text insets, only the Frame files, and this copying is done outside of FrameMaker. Graphics are stored in a central location so those paths don't change. FrameMaker provides functionality to update graphic

Re: Frame 7.1 to 8 upgrade -- benefits?

2010-04-12 Thread Beverly Robinson
I just read the Framers Digest from Friday and wanted to add some information about Adobe's Transactional Licensing Program. We purchased our current TPS2 licenses through that program because it seemed like a good deal. I later found out that phone support isn't included in TLP purchases. (Not

Master Page Flow Problems

2010-04-12 Thread George, Brenda (CAI)
I am trying to flow 4 xml documents into structured FrameMaker template that is 4 pages. The last page has 3 different master page versions. I have set the StructMasterPageMaps up to direct the page flow for the final page to the correct back page master page, depending on the value for the

Frame 7.0 - Command line method to compare two files?

2010-04-12 Thread techwritergirl
Hi all, Has anyone any experience in any method that would allow comparison of two frame files using the command line? I know the Framemaker command line options are limited: is there a utility or some other method that would allow this? Thanks in advance, TechWriterGirle

Re: plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Andy Lewis
Hi Wim, Check out *BookReport* from GolehTek (http://golehtek.com/BookReport.htmlhttp://www.golehtek.com/BookReport.html). Among many other things, it creates a report listing every FrameMaker document imported as an inset by one or more FrameMaker documents in a specified directory. And it’s

RE: Frame 7.0 - Command line method to compare two files?

2010-04-12 Thread Rick Quatro
The compare command is available with FrameScript. And, you can run a FrameScript script from a command line. You can find out more about FrameScript at http://www.framescript.com/. If you are interested in a script like this, please contact me offlist. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi all, I have recently encountered a documentation issue that I'd like feedback on. I am documenting a software product. There are two versions of the product. One version is for Windows. The other version is for Linux. The windows version came after the Linux version and there are significant

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
This has led me finally to consider conditional text. I'd create two tags: windows and linux. Then,  I'll apply the tags to operating system specific UI/functionality while leaving shared content alone. Sounds like a perfect solution. Here's the thing though, I am not a fan of conditional

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Joseph Lorenzini wrote: snip sense to create two different documents, which share a large amount of information. This has led me finally to consider conditional text. I'd create two tags: windows and linux. Then, I'll apply the tags to operating system specific UI/functionality while

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread William Abernathy
Joseph: What you are describing is exactly the sort of situation conditional text was designed for. From the sound of things, you're bothered by the basic logic of conditional text. You are not the first writer to experience this, and you will not be the last. Nonetheless, I have a hard time

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
Whatever you do, _don't_ conditionalize a word here or there. That's what leads to problems. Very wise! I've had to clean up many documents that were poorly conditioned to the word level. It can certainly be done well, but it's not for the conditional text novice by any means. Kiddies, don't

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Joseph Lorenzini wrote: Thank you for your feedback. I'll definitely go with the conditional text then. I like guidelines of only conditionalizing paragraphs is and never have overlapping conditions.  As Richard suggested, if I have to I'll just replicate the paragraph. As for the funky

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Baruch Brodersen
snip Sorry, I don't understand. When you hide a condition, there is no resulting paragraph mark -- /snip There is if the hidden condtional text is a text inset. -- B a r u c h B r o d e r s e n T e c h n i t e x t D o c u m e n t a t i o n 8 7 7 7 2 1 6 9 8 8

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Flato, Gillian
I always make each condition a different color so it's easy to see what text has what condition applied. Thank you, Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * gfl...@nanometrics.com -Original Message-

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Baruch Brodersen wrote: snip Sorry, I don't understand. When you hide a condition, there is no resulting paragraph mark -- /snip There is if the hidden condtional text is a text inset. Only if you fail to apply the condition to the paragraph that contains the text inset. A text inset

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Field, Karen wrote: Question along these lines: I've got docs that I split into different version numbers and company branding. One document spins into 6 different ones when I combine the version numbers with the branding. (For example: v. 2.1 Company A; v. 2.1 Company B) I do apply

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
Ideally I'd suggest try to avoid conditional text. That means planning. Then, if you do need to use it, you've done all you can to avoid it, and it should appear as little as possible. It likely needs as little as possible to make it work as well. It's a great feature, but one that you may be

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
In that case make sure you conditionalize everything from the 1st character to the ending paragraph mark of each conditional paragraph. You should have no issues if you follow that rule. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Joseph Lorenzini jalo...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your feedback. I'll

Re: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
That means think a lot about what you write. With one client we took the approach of a Mac and a PC version of manuals, but we had, say, 10 chapters that had the same info. We avoided product names. We asked the developers to match the product and dialogs. Then we wrote generic. Instead of

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread David Spreadbury
I have been following this thread with interest. I, personally believe that conditional text would solve your problem, but, I was recently involved in documenting a software application that was targeted for Windows and Unix. The client did not want to use conditional text. So, we were left with

RE: Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
BILL: Generally I agree, but I think in this specific case the application that Joe is documenting really varies between Linux and Windows. At least, that's what I gathered from: Originally, I was told that these differences would eventually go away and that the user experience would be

plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hello, I'm working on a project for a client where documents are created and maintained using conditional text and text insets. When moving (copying) files to a new location, text insets are not automatically recoverable like image references. Does anyone know about a plug in or an existing

plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Spectrum Writing
Wim, Rick Quatro developed such a script for me and it works beautifully. Contact him at FrameExpert.com. TVB Tammy Van Boening Owner/Principal Spectrum Writing, LLC www.spectrumwritingllc.com info at spectrumwritingllc.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com

OT: Creating hyperlinks in PDF from Word source doc

2010-04-12 Thread Jon Harvey
Everyone, I have a Word document in which all entries in the TOC are hyperlinked. The problem is that the hyperlinks do not work when the document is printed to a PDF. I'm using the Rich Content PDF job option in distiller 8.0. The Word doc is in docx format opened in Word 2003. I've opend the

Creating hyperlinks in PDF from Word source doc

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Jon Harvey wrote: > I have a Word document in which all entries in the TOC are hyperlinked. > The problem is that the hyperlinks do not work when the document is > printed to a PDF. I'm using the Rich Content PDF job option in distiller > 8.0. The Word doc is in docx format opened in Word 2003.

plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hello Andy, Thank you for your suggestion. I have the golehtek plug in. Unfortunately it doesn?t work for me because the clients directory structure is not supported: in the folder names special characters (like &) are used and it?s not up to me to change that. Otherwise the move book

Creating hyperlinks in PDF from Word source doc

2010-04-12 Thread Fred Ridder
Or, if you are using Word 2007, try the Save As > XPS or PDF command. When our corporate IT folks first upgraded our pubs group to Office 2007 and Acrobat Pro 9.0, we were seeing some problems with using the Acrobat commands to produce PDFs (I don't remember the details, I'm afraid...). We did

plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
There is a plug-in that will do this for you, it is called "Archive" by Bruce Foster. If you need to move a copy of your project to another location it will copy graphic, Frame file, and text insets. It also goes through the Frame documents and changes the pointers to the graphics and text inset

plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hello Ann, Thanks for the suggestion. The issue is that I don't want to copy graphics and text insets, only the Frame files, and this copying is done outside of FrameMaker. Graphics are stored in a central location so those paths don't change. FrameMaker provides functionality to update graphic

Frame 7.1 to 8 upgrade -- benefits?

2010-04-12 Thread Beverly Robinson
I just read the Framers Digest from Friday and wanted to add some information about Adobe's Transactional Licensing Program. We purchased our current TPS2 licenses through that program because it seemed like a good deal. I later found out that phone support isn't included in TLP purchases. (Not

Master Page Flow Problems

2010-04-12 Thread George, Brenda (CAI)
I am trying to flow 4 xml documents into structured FrameMaker template that is 4 pages. The last page has 3 different master page versions. I have set the StructMasterPageMaps up to direct the page flow for the final page to the correct back page master page, depending on the value for the

Frame 7.0 - Command line method to compare two files?

2010-04-12 Thread techwritergirl
Hi all, Has anyone any experience in any method that would allow comparison of two frame files using the command line? I know the Framemaker command line options are limited: is there a utility or some other method that would allow this? Thanks in advance, TechWriterGirle

plug in or script to manage text insets (unstructured)

2010-04-12 Thread Andy Lewis
Hi Wim, Check out *BookReport* from GolehTek (http://golehtek.com/BookReport.html). Among many other things, it creates a report listing every FrameMaker document imported as an inset by one or more FrameMaker documents in a specified directory. And it?s

Frame 7.0 - Command line method to compare two files?

2010-04-12 Thread Rick Quatro
The compare command is available with FrameScript. And, you can run a FrameScript script from a command line. You can find out more about FrameScript at http://www.framescript.com/. If you are interested in a script like this, please contact me offlist. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi all, I have recently encountered a documentation issue that I'd like feedback on. I am documenting a software product. There are two versions of the product. One version is for Windows. The other version is for Linux. The windows version came after the Linux version and there are significant

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
> This has led me finally to consider conditional text. I'd > create two tags: windows and linux. Then, ?I'll apply the tags to operating > system specific UI/functionality while leaving shared content alone. Sounds like a perfect solution. > Here's the thing though, I am not a fan of

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Joseph Lorenzini wrote: > sense to create two different documents, which share a large amount of > information. This has led me finally to consider conditional text. I'd > create two tags: windows and linux. Then, I'll apply the tags to operating > system specific UI/functionality while

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread William Abernathy
Joseph: What you are describing is exactly the sort of situation conditional text was designed for. From the sound of things, you're bothered by the basic logic of conditional text. You are not the first writer to experience this, and you will not be the last. Nonetheless, I have a hard time

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
> Whatever you do, _don't_ conditionalize a word here or there. That's what > leads to problems. Very wise! I've had to clean up many documents that were poorly conditioned to the word level. It can certainly be done well, but it's not for the conditional text novice by any means. Kiddies, don't

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Joseph Lorenzini wrote: > Thank you for your feedback. I'll definitely go with the conditional text > then. I like guidelines of only conditionalizing paragraphs is and never > have overlapping conditions.? As Richard suggested, if I have to I'll just > replicate the paragraph. As for the funky

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Baruch Brodersen
> > > Sorry, I don't understand. When you hide a condition, there is no > "resulting paragraph mark" -- > There is if the hidden condtional text is a text inset. -- B a r u c h B r o d e r s e n T e c h n i t e x t D o c u m e n t a t i o n 8 7 7 7 2 1 6 9 8 8

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Flato, Gillian
I always make each condition a different color so it's easy to see what text has what condition applied. Thank you, Gillian Flato Technical Writer (Software) nanometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 (408.545.6316 7 408.232.5911 * gflato at nanometrics.com -Original Message-

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Baruch Brodersen wrote: > > Sorry, I don't understand. When you hide a condition, there is no > "resulting paragraph mark" -- > > > There is if the hidden condtional text is a text inset. Only if you fail to apply the condition to the paragraph that contains the text inset. A text inset

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Combs, Richard
Field, Karen wrote: > Question along these lines: I've got docs that I split into different > version numbers and company branding. One document spins into 6 > different ones when I combine the version numbers with the branding. > (For example: v. 2.1 Company A; v. 2.1 Company B) I do apply

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
Ideally I'd suggest try to avoid conditional text. That means planning. Then, if you do need to use it, you've done all you can to avoid it, and it should appear as little as possible. It likely needs as little as possible to make it work as well. It's a great feature, but one that you may be

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
In that case make sure you conditionalize everything from the 1st character to the ending paragraph mark of each conditional paragraph. You should have no issues if you follow that rule. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Joseph Lorenzini wrote: > Thank you for your feedback. I'll definitely go

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bill Swallow
> That means think a lot about what you write. With one client we took the > approach of a Mac and a PC version of manuals, but we had, > say, 10 chapters that had the same info. We avoided product names. We asked > the developers to match the product and dialogs. Then we > wrote generic.

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread David Spreadbury
I have been following this thread with interest. I, personally believe that conditional text would solve your problem, but, I was recently involved in documenting a software application that was targeted for Windows and Unix. The client did not want to use conditional text. So, we were left with

Strategy for Handling Conditional Text

2010-04-12 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
BILL: Generally I agree, but I think in this specific case the application that Joe is documenting really varies between Linux and Windows. At least, that's what I gathered from: "Originally, I was told that these differences would eventually go away and that the user experience would be