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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Johnson
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 8:23 PM
I have Frame 8 and can reproduce it. You can avoid it by not including
the pilcrow in the condition in the
Hi everyone,
Just a quick introduction. My name is Kapil Verma and I am the product manager
for FrameMaker. In case you have not heard it yet, we recently launched the new
versions of FrameMaker and FrameMaker Server (version 10). To read more about
the release and what's new, please go to
I believe this change in behavior was introduced in FM7, and my recollection is
that it was described as a correction in the release notes. In other words,
it appeared to have been a change that was made deliberately by the development
team in India. And if that is the case, it's now an uphill
I see Adobe has really raised changed their upgrade policy. They used to
let you upgrade for $399 from any of the last few versions. Now it's
only from the last version, Frame 9. From Frame 8 it costs more to
upgrade and from 7.2 you can't even upgrade!
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical
Robert Shelton wrote:
But if I don't conditionalize the pilcrow, when I hide the condition the
pilcrow stays there, and I end up with a blank paragraph. In most cases,
that's not what I want. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution.
The way I've dealt with that (and with issues that may arise
I sympathize with that upcoming upgrade bill...I recommend the Maintenance
contract for any Adobe software you purchase. The only time you can purchase
the maintenance contract is in conjunction with an initial purchase or upgrade
of a product or suite.
You can see a breakdown of the savings
I have this feeling that my question has been covered fairly recently, but
I've been away and have a big backlog of messages. Since the question is
brief (I think), I'll ask it anyway ... please accept my apology for any
duplication.
My question is this: Does FM8 run well under Win7?
Thanks,
Elchanan,
Yes, I am running FrameMaker 7.2, 8.0, 9.0, and 10.0 on the same Windows 7
machine.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
r...@frameexpert.com
*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
Hi everyone,
Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured, and I realize
that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to structured FM,
etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of good, introductory
reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not
Hear, hear!! I had a gap between version 5 and 7.2 for using FrameMaker and
didn't do much with conditional text in the old days. It was indeed a poor and
illogical decision to treat the pilcrow (never heard that before!) as something
different from the rest of the paragraph. Of course you want
That's exactly what I thought when I read your original post. We're
experiencing the same problems at work... ultra frustration at how the
conditional text that used to work like a charm and that you could rely on
now doesn't work worth a dang! Adobe I hope you're listening...
If we come across
If this becomes a maintenance hassle, it could be fixed automatically with
FrameScript. I am thinking you could have a script that would check to see
if an entire paragraph except the paragraph mark is conditional, that it
would automatically apply that condition to the paragraph mark. The script
You'll probably get a tonne of advice, so I'll keep mine brief.
I found this book really useful when I was getting started: Introduction to
DITA: A User Guide to the Darwin Information Typing Architecture
(http://www.comtech-serv.com/dita2.shtml#book).
FrameMaker 9 handles DITA better than
Works just fine!
I have used FM 8 and 9 on a Windows 7 (64-bit) system and I would expect them
to work with Windows 7 (32-bit) too.
Z
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs
Sent: Wednesday,
I believe this change in behavior was introduced in FM7, and my recollection is
that it was described as a "correction" in the release notes. In other words,
it appeared to have been a change that was made deliberately by the development
team in India. And if that is the case, it's now an
I see Adobe has really raised changed their upgrade policy. They used to
let you upgrade for $399 from any of the last few versions. Now it's
only from the last version, Frame 9. From Frame 8 it costs more to
upgrade and from 7.2 you can't even upgrade!
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
Robert Shelton wrote:
> But if I don't conditionalize the pilcrow, when I hide the condition the
> pilcrow stays there, and I end up with a blank paragraph. In most cases,
> that's not what I want. Unfortunately, I don't have a solution.
The way I've dealt with that (and with issues that may
I sympathize with that upcoming upgrade bill...I recommend the Maintenance
contract for any Adobe software you purchase. The only time you can purchase
the maintenance contract is in conjunction with an initial purchase or upgrade
of a product or suite.
You can see a breakdown of the savings
I have this feeling that my question has been covered fairly recently, but
I've been away and have a big backlog of messages. Since the question is
brief (I think), I'll ask it anyway ... please accept my apology for any
duplication.
My question is this: Does FM8 run well under Win7?
Thanks,
Elchanan,
Yes, I am running FrameMaker 7.2, 8.0, 9.0, and 10.0 on the same Windows 7
machine.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-659-8267
rick at frameexpert.com
*** Frame Automation blog at http://frameautomation.com
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
Hi everyone,
Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured, and I realize
that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to structured FM,
etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of good, introductory
reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not have
Hear, hear!! I had a gap between version 5 and 7.2 for using FrameMaker and
didn't do much with conditional text in the old days. It was indeed a poor and
illogical decision to treat the pilcrow (never heard that before!) as something
different from the rest of the paragraph. Of course you want
That's exactly what I thought when I read your original post. We're
experiencing the same problems at work... ultra frustration at how the
conditional text that used to work like a charm and that you could rely on
now doesn't work worth a dang! Adobe I hope you're listening...
If we come across
If this becomes a maintenance hassle, it could be fixed automatically with
FrameScript. I am thinking you could have a script that would check to see
if an entire paragraph except the paragraph mark is conditional, that it
would automatically apply that condition to the paragraph mark. The script
You'll probably get a tonne of advice, so I'll keep mine brief.
I found this book really useful when I was getting started: Introduction to
DITA: A User Guide to the Darwin Information Typing Architecture
(http://www.comtech-serv.com/dita2.shtml#book).
FrameMaker 9 handles DITA better than
Works just fine!
I have used FM 8 and 9 on a Windows 7 (64-bit) system and I would expect them
to work with Windows 7 (32-bit) too.
Z
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From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs
Sent:
Elchanan:
I'll just quickly add that you can move to structured FrameMaker without
using DITA. The relationship between the two is that structured
FrameMaker supports XML (i.e., in FrameMaker, you can define your
document like it is an XML file and optionally export it to XML), and
DITA is a
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