ANN: Live Online Training, May-June

2013-05-12 Thread Shlomo Perets
Half-days; scheduled hours adjusted to fit participants' time zones. . PDF Document Collections, May 21 . Visually-Oriented Documentation, May 22-23 . Single Sourcing with FrameMaker, May 29-30 . Rich Media in PDFs with TimeSavers+Multimedia Asst, June 3 .

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-12 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 16:42 +1200 12/5/13, Alan T Litchfield wrote: Resellers are expensive to support and no longer bring real value to the product. With the advance of Internet and peer support of products, Adobe had long since removed the reseller from the channel. Without responding to the many other issues,

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-12 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Hi Steve, These are resellers as in, computer shops selling boxes and stuff? You know, retail channel? Thanks Alan On 12/05/13 11:09 PM, Steve Rickaby wrote: At 16:42 +1200 12/5/13, Alan T Litchfield wrote: Resellers are expensive to support and no longer bring real value to the product.

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-12 Thread Alan T Litchfield
On 12/05/2013, at 6:36 AM, Steve Johnson wrote: > Almost everyone keeps ignoring the question of CHOICE. There's no > doubt you can make a case for subscription but you can also make a > case for getting the disks or downloading the software. > > Of what benefit to Adobe is depriving us to

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-12 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Funny how people put words between the lines... On 12/05/13 12:08 PM, Steve Johnson wrote: > That's some interesting points and some of them are probably partially > true. What you're saying basically is that Adobe blames its customers > for its relative low profit margins and share price. If

Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-12 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Jeremy, Very keen to know more, mate. Time for a robust system that does what FM used to do so well. Alan On 12/05/13 12:54 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:33:13 -0700 (PDT), Writer > wrote: > >> I say we start a new company and create a competitor >> to FrameMaker!

ANN: Live Online Training, May-June

2013-05-12 Thread Shlomo Perets
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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-12 Thread Steve Johnson
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Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-12 Thread Robert Lauriston
Old versions of FrameMaker do what FrameMaker used to do as well as ever. I'd really like to get my hands on a copy of FrameMaker 8. That whole model seems outdated to me. I'd like to switch to Confluence. On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > Time for a robust system