RE: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-13 Thread Veronica Kutt
] On Behalf Of Steve Johnson Sent: January-11-11 1:20 PM To: generic...@yahoo.ca Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Jeremy H. Griffith Subject: Re: Flare vs Frame You can still buy Frame 8 using a special kind of licensing I can't think of now, maybe volume licensing. Search the Adobe Forum; you'll find

Re: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-12 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Flare is a full-blown single sourcing program, something like Structured Frame, and includes online help output. It's more complicated to use, but might be more powerful. I never used it. You have to take into account that the downside to using more complex and less popular programs is that

Re: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-12 Thread Steve Johnson
You can still buy Frame 8 using a special kind of licensing I can't think of now, maybe volume licensing. Search the Adobe Forum; you'll find it. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Writer generic...@yahoo.ca wrote: I believe that I can go from Frame to .chm. No, you can't.  You could use

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-12 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Flare is a full-blown single sourcing program, something like Structured Frame, and includes online help output. It's more complicated to use, but might be more powerful. I never used it. You have to take into account that the downside to using more complex and less popular programs is that

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-12 Thread Veronica Kutt
] On Behalf Of Steve Johnson Sent: January-11-11 1:20 PM To: generic668 at yahoo.ca Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Jeremy H. Griffith Subject: Re: Flare vs Frame You can still buy Frame 8 using a special kind of licensing I can't think of now, maybe volume licensing. Search the Adobe Forum

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Paul Carr
Folks, At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled html (by which I assume they mean .chm). They think. My audience is support folks for internal software. They think that they want to stay with Word for the source files because, down the road, anyone will be

Re: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:18:04 -0800, Paul Carr ob...@me.com wrote: I told them that Frame would make the development of the .chm-friendly content much easier than Word, because of Frame's advanced x-ref options, for one thing. True, and the numbering is stable too. Along with dozens of other

Re: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Art Campbell
Like you, I'd go with Frame, because you can easily get from Frame to .chm (if necessary) either through RoboHelp or MIF2go. You could do online reviews pretty easily with FM, using PDF as your reviewing tool. CMEs can cut in comments/corrections using Reader and those can be round-tripped back

RE: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Mike Feimster
, 2011 8:18 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Flare vs Frame Folks, At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled html (by which I assume they mean .chm). They think. My audience is support folks for internal software. They think that they want to stay with Word

RE: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Paul Carr wrote: At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled html (by which I assume they mean .chm). They think. Yes, that's what .chm, a.k.a., HTMLHelp, is. But if you're not sure that's what they mean or want, you might want to talk with them some more. This

Re: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Writer
I believe that I can go from Frame to .chm. No, you can't.  You could use Mif2Go (our product, for $295), or ePublisher (for way more) snip WebWorks ePublisher can also process Word files, if you decide to stick with Word. It can also process a mix of Word, FM, and XML files. Nadine

RE: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Daniel Doornbos - PTU
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Paul Carr Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:18 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Flare vs Frame Folks, At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled html (by which I assume they mean .chm). They think. My audience is support folks

RE: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Fei Min Lorente
files. Sorry I don't know anything about Flare. Fei Min -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Paul Carr Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:18 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Flare vs Frame Folks

Re: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Bill Swallow
There is no native CHM conversion, merely save as HTML. You *can* save as HTML and then create all of your TOC/IX/keyword files, manage map IDs, and then compile it all outside of FM using HTML Help Workshop or another product with the compiler, but you also might have better uses of your time.

Re: Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Bill Swallow
No, you can't.  You could use Mif2Go (our product, for $295), or ePublisher (for way more), directly with the Frame files.  Other apps, like Flare and Robo, import the Frame files instead, which means lots more work for every revision.  Robo claims to link, but see what its users have to say

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Paul Carr
Folks, At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled html (by which I assume they mean .chm). They think. My audience is support folks for internal software. They think that they want to stay with Word for the source files because, down the road, anyone will be

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:18:04 -0800, Paul Carr wrote: >I told them that Frame would make the development of >the .chm-friendly content much easier than Word, because >of Frame's advanced x-ref options, for one thing. True, and the numbering is stable too. Along with dozens of other reasons

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Art Campbell
Like you, I'd go with Frame, because you can easily get from Frame to .chm (if necessary) either through RoboHelp or MIF2go. You could do online reviews pretty easily with FM, using PDF as your reviewing tool. CMEs can cut in comments/corrections using Reader and those can be round-tripped back

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Mike Feimster
, 2011 8:18 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Flare vs Frame Folks, At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled html (by which I assume they mean .chm). They think. My audience is support folks for internal software. They think that they want to stay

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Combs, Richard
Paul Carr wrote: > At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled > html (by which I assume they mean .chm). They think. Yes, that's what .chm, a.k.a., HTMLHelp, is. But if you're not sure that's what they mean or want, you might want to talk with them some more. This

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Writer
> >I believe that I can go from Frame to .chm. > > No, you can't.? You could use Mif2Go (our product, > for $295), or ePublisher (for way more) WebWorks ePublisher can also process Word files, if you decide to stick with Word. It can also process a mix of Word, FM, and XML files. Nadine

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Daniel Doornbos - PTU
com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Paul Carr Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:18 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Flare vs Frame Folks, At my new contract, they have Word (och!) and want to output to compiled html (by which I assume they mean .chm). They think

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Fei Min Lorente
files. Sorry I don't know anything about Flare. Fei Min -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Paul Carr Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:18 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Flare vs Frame

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Bill Swallow
There is no native CHM conversion, merely save as HTML. You *can* save as HTML and then create all of your TOC/IX/keyword files, manage map IDs, and then compile it all outside of FM using HTML Help Workshop or another product with the compiler, but you also might have better uses of your time.

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Bill Swallow
> No, you can't. ?You could use Mif2Go (our product, > for $295), or ePublisher (for way more), directly with > the Frame files. ?Other apps, like Flare and Robo, > import the Frame files instead, which means lots > more work for every revision. ?Robo claims to "link", > but see what its users

Flare vs Frame

2011-01-11 Thread Steve Johnson
You can still buy Frame 8 using a special kind of licensing I can't think of now, maybe volume licensing. Search the Adobe Forum; you'll find it. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Writer wrote: >> >I believe that I can go from Frame to .chm. >> >> No, you can't.? You could use Mif2Go (our