Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-21 Thread quills
The problem is that XML and by extention XHTML describe content, not presentation or formatting. HTML is designed to present data in a formatted state (XHTML is designed to allow the content author to define the structure and presentation). But HTML does not have the control built into it for p

RE: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-21 Thread Sharon Burton
-8590 www.anthrobytes.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hedley Finger Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:35 PM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: MadCap Blaze Sharon: At Friday, 21/03/2008, 11:07 AM;, you wrote: >you also have short line control,

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread Hedley Finger
Sharon: At Friday, 21/03/2008, 11:07 AM;, you wrote: >you also have short line control, missing from FrameMaker. Is that the same as widows and orphans? Or is it when a small word, say "all", turns over onto a new line at the end of a paragraph? If the latter, in FM most people just put a no

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread Hedley Finger
Sharon: I concur with Bill. What I cannot understand is that this was trumpeted as a FrameMaker killer yet its functionality falls far below. FM is very powerful but still needs a lot of work. For one, the presence of so many indexing add-ons indicates that better indexing and index managemen

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread Sharon Burton
In fact, we have these features and in fact you have the sort of control - and in some cases, more control - you expect from an app designed for "print". For example, you also have short line control, missing from FrameMaker. Really. Quoting William Gaffga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > leading ... ker

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread William Gaffga
leading ... kerning ... tracking ... ligatures ... this kinda stuff (and more) is something you expect from "print". HTML, even with the aid of CSS, is not going to be able to give you the control of these that you would get from an app designed for "print". Sharon Burton wrote: > Can you help

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread Sharon Burton
Vendor post Forgive me - these are straight questions. I really don't quite understand. What's convoluted about getting printed output out of XML, HTML, or XHTML topics in Blaze? You create topics, you define and assign style sheets to topics (you can also have multiple style sheets in

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread quills
For a product that is supposedly Print oriented, HTML is a lousy media to produce it in. There is no reason to use HTML. Even XHTML is not the best route, nor is XML. While HTML and XHTML are presentation based, they don't allow the same type of easy manipulation that FrameMaker or even Word a

RE: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread Sharon Burton
n detail. And, yes, our UI is very different. Some people love it, some don't. sharon Sharon Burton -Original Message- From: Bill Swallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 8:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Frame Users; Sharon Work Subject: Re: MadCap Blaz

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread Bill Swallow
> Some clarifications: Blaze is the younger sister of Flare 4. If you need > complex print and online docs, then you want Flare 4. If you only need > printed output, then you want Blaze. Everything that's in Blaze will be in > Flare 4. I really don't understand this, I'm not trying to be diffi

RE: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread Sharon Burton
Vendor Post I've been at WritersUA and away from my personal email since Sunday. I got back late last night. I'm the product manager for Blaze. (BTW - great conference!) Some clarifications: Blaze is the younger sister of Flare 4. If you need complex print and online docs, then you want F

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-20 Thread Bill Swallow
> Sharon Burton, from MadCap, did a presentation at our last STC meeting. She > said that Blaze was for people who only did print publishing and Flare was > for print and help files etc. This was one of the disconnects I had. Why only print? Who does only print these days? Even FrameMaker out of

RE: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread Catherine Woods
htmare in FrameMaker. Catherine Woods Senior Documentation Specialist Polycom Canada Burnaby, BC [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flato, Gillian Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:33 AM To: Frame Users Subject: RE: MadCap Blaze

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread William Gaffga
I downloaded it. Underwhelmed. We purchased Flare in our move away from WebWorks Publisher Pro and I am just starting to learn it. I looked at Blaze and was shocked that it looked identical to Flare and that I had no idea how to go about making a book. Never have I acquired a DTP, layout or tex

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread William Gaffga
Flato, Gillian wrote: > She said that Madcap was creating a CMS first, and then it was going > to make Blaze and Flare DITA compatible. I told her that in my > opinion, that was a bad plan. They will never be competitive with > Frame until they do DITA, and no one is going to buy a CMS when they

RE: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread Gordon McLean
:33 To: Frame Users Subject: RE: MadCap Blaze Sharon Burton, from MadCap, did a presentation at our last STC meeting. She said that Blaze was for people who only did print publishing and Flare was for print and help files etc. Both Blaze and Flare make you write in a topic-oriented way, yet it

RE: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread Flato, Gillian
nometrics 1550 Buckeye Dr. Milpitas, CA. 95035 408.545.6316 408.232.5911 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Müller-Hillebrand Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:17 AM To: Frame Users Subject: Re: MadCap Blaze Am 19.03.2

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Am 19.03.2008 um 17:05 schrieb Rick Henkel: > Flare has more than Blaze. Kind of like Flare : Blaze :: > Acrobat : Reader They must have something up their sleeve... or why did they once position Blaze as FrameMaker killer? You wouldn't expect a serious company to exaggerate things like t

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread Rick Henkel
> Flare has more than Blaze? Ir did you mean that the other way around? > > Flare has more than Blaze. Kind of like Flare : Blaze :: Acrobat : Reader Rick ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread Bill Swallow
> Blaze essentially IS Flare in that, if I remember correctly, all the > functionality in Blaze is also in Flare. Flare then has additional > publishing functionality. Flare has more than Blaze? Ir did you mean that the other way around? Either way, I'm kind of stumped why Blaze wasn't just ma

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread Rick Henkel
> Blaze appears to be a variant of Flare. It isn't an authoring tool so much as > a conversion tool. It seems not to know > if its main thrust is HTML or XML, and it seems to lean heavily toward HTML. > Blaze essentially IS Flare in that, if I remember correctly, all the functionality in B

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread Bill Swallow
I honestly came to the same conclusions about Blaze. I don't see it being that much different from Flare at all. I was also disappointed that it wasn't true XML (it's XHTML) and that it's not DITA capable from what I've seen. IMO it's not an alternative to FM at all. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:30

Re: MadCap Blaze

2008-03-19 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Scott, I downloaded and installed it as well, but there was no documentation to speak of. The interface was anything but intuitive so I uninstalled it. When they have some kind of tutorial available, I may try it again. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > > I h