RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
' Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) from earlier post While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Alison Craig
: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) Further to Matt's comments, I do conversion for clients, but usually 1000's of pages at a time, and sometimes it's Word, Frame, or sloppy Frame source content. In almost all cases we look for patterns. If they can be id'd then we

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
- From: Alison Craig [mailto:alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com] Sent: April-30-10 13:52 To: Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter); 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum' Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) BTW, with a system in place we

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Ed
(Publishing Smarter) Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:53 PM To: 'Alison Craig'; 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum' Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) The we in this case is a company we. So it was me. And one part time resource who

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Matt Sullivan
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter) Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:53 PM To: 'Alison Craig'; 'Matt Sullivan'; 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum' Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) The we in this case

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread LW White
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum' Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) from earlier post While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins can anyone

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Ed
[mailto:m...@grafixtraining.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:42 PM To: 'Ed'; 'Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)'; 'Alison Craig'; 'FrameMaker Forum' Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) The question isn't/wasn't whether or not to structure

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter)
: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) Matt- People are asking why it's so hard to convert. My point is that for many solo writers, it's hard to propose a conversion to management, and get buy-in, especially when there's doc to write that's currently being delivered just

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Ed, I think you have too many experts in your list. Many of us learned the steps as novices. For example, An expert to create an EDD and/or DTD. You can learn to create an EDD by reading the FrameMaker documentation. If you are going to use DITA, FrameMaker comes with an EDD that you can

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Writer
wanted it badly enough to do it anyway. Nadine --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) To: 'Matt Sullivan' m...@grafixtraining.com, 'Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Ed
I'll look at this incrementally. -=Ed. -Original Message- From: Rick Quatro [mailto:r...@rickquatro.com] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 5:01 PM To: 'Ed'; 'FrameMaker Forum' Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) Hi Ed, I think you have too many

Re: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-30 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:15:17 -0400, Ed hamonwr...@hotmail.com wrote: I went to an XSL class and was completely lost. Maybe it's changed since then, but XSL spooked me pretty well. I enjoy hacking XML and CSS, so maybe I'll look at this incrementally. You aren't the only one who finds XSLT

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-29 Thread Matt Sullivan
from earlier post While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured or dita? Sincerely, Joseph Lorenzini

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-29 Thread David Spreadbury
- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sullivan Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:24 PM To: 'Joseph Lorenzini'; 'FrameMaker Forum' Subject: RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) from earlier post

Re: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-29 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, Matt Sullivan m...@grafixtraining.com wrote: While there's structured framemaker, dita, and a host of third party plugins can anyone really say its a simple, painless, and quick process to transition from unstructured framemaker to either structured or

RE: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-29 Thread Matt Sullivan
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy H. Griffith Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 2:25 PM To: 'FrameMaker Forum' Subject: Re: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies) On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:23:54 -0700, Matt Sullivan m...@grafixtraining.com wrote: While

Re: Structuring documents (was RE: Adobe's New Corporate Strategies)

2010-04-29 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:54:08 -0700, Matt Sullivan m...@grafixtraining.com wrote: As a point of correction... I didn't state the para you've attributed to me and I *do not* agree with it. Ah. You were quoting it. I didn't notice that, because you had omitted the usual top attribution to the