RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread Austin Meredith
Dov wrote: On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated, let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development. A next major version is currently being developed. Why ever would Adobe abandon FrameMaker? This is not just a techwriter tool we're dealing with here, folks. A soon as Adobe

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread maxwell.hoffmann
Hello Jakob, (I've read the other replies to this post also.) Like Bernard A., I too am at the annual FrameMaker Chautauqua. (A great venue for new info and easy access to experts; I highly recommend it!) Adobe flew in at least three of the developers from their facility in India for this

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread Combs, Richard
maxwell.hoffmann wrote: (I've read the other replies to this post also.) Like Bernard A., I too am at the annual FrameMaker Chautauqua. (A great venue for new info and easy access to experts; I highly recommend it!) I attended the 2005 Chautauqua and thought it was well worth my

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-15 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
This will be the 30th and I hope the LAST of all posts under this subject line. This is taking an awful lot of user bandwidth and productive time away from revenue-generating, useful work. Please desist from continuing this thread. This poor horse has been beat to death so many times that only

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Lin Surasky
Gosh, has it been 4 months ALREADY? I didn't think this would come up again for oh, at least another week or so Where does the time go? ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jakob Fix Sent: Thu 2/14/2008 5:46 AM To: Framers List Subject: future of FrameMaker

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Jakob Fix
I know I know, I did check the archives, but this was information I have received today ... so I thought maybe there's something going on that I hadn't noticed (not currently reading the list with the same ardour as some months ago) ... thanks anyway :) -- cheers, Jakob. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Why would they come out with the Adobe Technical Writing Suite and then just drop it? Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Lin Surasky wrote: Gosh, has it been 4 months ALREADY? I didn't think this would come up again for oh, at least another week or so Where does the time go? ;-) -Original

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated, let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development. A next major version is currently being developed. Any person attending an Adobe training session would certainly not have heard any information to the contrary. - Dov

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Combs, Richard
Jakob Fix wrote: I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently You know, this question was worth serious consideration the first dozen or so times it came up. It was mildly amusing the next dozen or so. Now -- after

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Lester C. Smalley
I'll drink to that! (although actually I prefer good ales...) There is a point when such speculation does warrant consideration, such as the (very) long lag between updates or new releases that FrameMaker has experienced in the past. However, given the fairly recent release of FM8 and then

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Bill Swallow
They just invested a ton of work into not only FM8 but also to RH 6 so the two tools can work together. This topic comes up regularly, and yet FM hasn't gone anywhere. Chicken Little and the Boy Who Cried Wolf are not to be trusted. On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Jakob Fix [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Paul Findon
On 14 Feb 2008, at 14:52, Dov Isaacs wrote: On behalf of Adobe Systems Incorporated, let me assure you that FrameMaker remains under active development. A next major version is currently being developed. Shucks... ...I was just about to register saveframemakerpetition.org :-)) Paul

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Mike Wickham
Adobe just came out with version 8 a few months ago, and two updates since. They are also actively seeking feature requests for version 9 in the Adobe FrameMaker Users Forum. You'd be better off to worry about FrameMaker's competitors. :) Mike Wickham

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread rinch
Oh, no, not again! Where do these death of FrameMaker myths start? If you've been going to conferences and reading industry-related publications, you'd know FrameMaker is alive and well loved by Adobe. Richard ___ You are currently subscribed to

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I wonder is these rumors are started by competitors. It's possible that Adobe puts less development time into FM as they do their other more profitable programs, but I think it's highly unlikely that they will stop developing it entirely. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson 052-763-7133 Mike Wickham

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Gold
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Bill Swallow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They just invested a ton of work into not only FM8 but also to RH 6 so the two tools can work together. This topic comes up regularly, and yet FM hasn't gone anywhere. This could fit nicely into a thread on a

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Only if it's shinier. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:framers- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:03 AM To: Framers Subject: Re: future of FrameMaker Why do programs always have to go somewhere to be worth using

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Of Bernard Aschwanden Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 1:22 PM To: 'Jakob Fix'; 'Framers List' Subject: RE: future of FrameMaker Please see every email from the past 10 plus years that I've posted to the Frame Users about the demise of Frame. Rather than writing it again it helps me. I should just put

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Please see every email from the past 10 plus years that I've posted to the Frame Users about the demise of Frame. Rather than writing it again it helps me. I should just put that message into a CMS as a DITA file for the future so that I can reuse it over and over and over when the rumor starts

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Bernard: On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Bernard Aschwanden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fast typing, less proofreading in my message below. Looking over this I see the errors. Note that they are my fault, not the fault of Outlook or of FrameMaker. Which has a future. Definitely. I'm

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread richard.melanson
since. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 12:03 PM To: Framers Subject: Re: future of FrameMaker Why do programs always have to go somewhere to be worth using? As long a company supports

RE: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
Jakob, We at Adobe would greatly appreciate it if you could send me, off-list, the name of the Adobe-approved training company that either stated or implied that there may be an end to development of FrameMaker. We would like to follow-up with them and send them for re-education at Gulag Adobe.

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Jakob Fix
Hi Rick, everybody, On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I find funny about the ORIGINAL posted question regarding the future of Framemaker is that it did not make it into my regular email, my server identified it as spam and junk mail, I just happened to see it as

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread Peter Gold
Paul's raised an interesting issue here. With the release of the Technical Communication Suite, which includes Captivate 3, RoboHelp, and Acrobat 8 3D, the outlook for FM on Mac OS X looks bleaker because Captivate and RoboHelp are Windows-only applications, and Acrobat on Mac OS X is short a few

Re: future of FrameMaker

2008-02-14 Thread John Posada
Is it that time again? On 2/14/08, Jakob Fix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I would like to know if anybody has some reliable first-hand information about the future of FrameMaker. I have recently heard of people having attended Adobe training sessions for FrameMaker that Adobe may/will

WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker)

2008-02-14 Thread Paul Findon
On 14 Feb 2008, at 21:22, Dov Isaacs wrote: > Just so nobody has any unwarranted expectations ... > > Regardless of whether you or I like it, the next major version > of FrameMaker will NOT support Macintosh natively for the exact > same reasons such support was discontinued in the first place. >

WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker)

2008-02-14 Thread Dov Isaacs
Understand, though, that even if that "works" it would be considered an unsupported configuration by Adobe. There is absolutely NO technical support for using Adobe applications under such environments. (A similar issue came up with regards to running InDesign under WINE on various Linux and UNIX

WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker)

2008-02-14 Thread Flato, Gillian
: WINE (Was Re: future of FrameMaker) Understand, though, that even if that "works" it would be considered an unsupported configuration by Adobe. There is absolutely NO technical support for using Adobe applications under such environments. (A similar issue came up with regards to runnin