RE: Structured Frame 12 superscript (Bjokne, Tim (Contractor))

Hi, The subscript and superscript have to be known both in EDD and DTD as elements. Regards, Anna Lena -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] För framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com Skickat: den 23 augusti 2

RE: structured frame xml: controlling cell shading

Hi Craig, I don't think this has changed for FrameMaker 10 and 11. For regular shading intervals, yes, you would do this via a Table Format. To specify custom shading based on an attribute value, for example, you would have to do this with an FDK client, or FrameScript or ExtendScript script. I

Re: Structured Frame Reference Guides

On the scriptorium web page, there is a tutorial about Building EDDs.   http://wiki.scriptorium.com/tiki-index.php   FM201 Structured FrameMaker/Introduction to Authoring FM202 Structured FrameMaker/Building EDDs FM203 Structured FrameMaker/Structured Applications --- On Mon, 5/9/11, Bjokne, Tim (

RE: Structured Frame Reference Guides

Hi Tim, Can't help you with any books, but there are two possible solutions for problem, depending on the situation or type of elements (inline or container) (Note: using the EDD element names in bold below) 1. Use ParagraphFormatting/PropertiesPagination/Placement/RunInHead. You have t

Re: Structured Frame Reference Guides

It appears Scriptorium has some workbooks - states "All workbooks are compatible with versions 7 and 8 of FrameMaker." http://www.scriptorium.com/books/framemaker-workbooks/ Bobbi On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Bjokne, Tim (Contractor) <

Re: Structured Frame Reference Guides

Fei Min is correct. I've found that the Structure Development Guide that is in the Online Manuals folder in FrameMaker 7 is invaluable. Paragraph styles will always have a paragraph break in them. Text range (which will translate to a Character style) doesn't require a para break. Scott On Ma

RE: Structured Frame Reference Guides

Hi Tim: I think that using a paragraph element inherently determines that you have to have a paragraph break. Perhaps you really want a text range element? As for FrameMaker 8 reference guides for structured FrameMaker, I remember that Scriptorium explained why they published a guide to uns

Re: Structured Frame Reference Guides

> Specifically, I am setting up an EDD file and I can't decipher via the Adobe > help files how to create an element that does not insert a paragraph break. > Paragraph formats all have paragraph breaks after them, and I don't see a way > to "turn that off" from within the EDD. Tim, Inside t

Re: Structured Frame Help

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:52:04 +1100, roconn...@netspace.net.au wrote: >I haven't used Framemaker for about 7 yrs (unfortunately) and only used >unstructured Frame in V5.5 > >Does anyone out there have some source templates, or a small book example of a >structured doc? I need to get up and racing

Re: Structured Frame Help

Hi Rose, All of our training materials are available here (two unstructured and three structured courses): http://wiki.scriptorium.com The examples are written for v7 but will also work in v8. As the content is editable, we hope that the community will participate in updating this resource for

Re: Structured Frame Help

Hi Rose... Sorry to have not responded sooner. If you're on FM7.1 and want to start messing around with DITA authoring, you can use our free version of DITA-FMx (supports FM7.1 and 7.2). The 0.0 version of DITA-FMx provides you with structured apps and some sample files and will let you get in

RE: Structured Frame Help

Rose, Try Googling for framemaker tutorials. One of the hits will take you to http://www.io.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame/frame_basics.html. A fairly decent online tutorial. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Be

RE: Structured Frame Primer

Neeraj Jain wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I want to learn structured FM. Can you please provide a > specific link within http://www.scriptorium.com from where I > can study the same? I browsed scriptorium but found paid > resources only. Please help me in learning. Steve said, "I used the Scripto

Re: Structured Frame Primer

Writer 91-9810676241 http://www.neerajjain8.com | http://neerajjain8.rediffiland.com - Original Message From: Steve Rickaby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Alison Carrico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 8:37:40 PM Subject: Re: Structured

Re: Structured Frame Primer

At 10:00 -0500 3/10/07, Alison Carrico wrote: >Can anyone recommend a good primer for learning Structured Frame? &/or >a good reference for more advanced users? Is the User Manual reasonably >good? I used the Scriptorium Press material. Worked for me. The Adoobe St

Re: structured Frame

Fred Ridder wrote: Marcus, Marcus, Marcus. In the abstract, I completely agree with what you say. My postings in this thread, though, have been written to address the specific context of the original poster, who is a sole writer at a company which has a significant body of unstructured documenta

RE: structured Frame

The fundamental issue is Return on Investment (ROI), whether the staff is one writer or 100. Here are the major cost factors that must be evaluated: A Realizable positive values of a structured solution. 1. A breakdown of the identifiable costs of the current unstructured methodology which can be

RE: structured Frame

TECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: structured Frame Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:44:13 +1000 (EST) Fred Ridder wrote: > There *are* some real benefits, but > they tend to be less quantifiable tangible and harder to proove > to managers or business analysts who have

Re: Structured Frame

Thanks to everyone for your great responses. FYI, I might add that an advantage of my working for a very small company (and having been there many years) is that I don't need to make a formal proposal for this. (Of course, at the same time, there will be no consultants, etc., just me in the ro

RE: structured Frame

Fred Ridder wrote: > There *are* some real benefits, but > they tend to be less quantifiable tangible and harder to proove > to managers or business analysts who have to sign off on the > budget and implementation plan. The gains in collaboration and > writing a topic only once, which are general

RE: structured Frame

while, the savings really add up. I wouldn't know how to put that in a proposal, though. Luckily, I've not had to do that yet. Russ ---- Original Message Subject: RE: structured Frame From: "Fred Ridder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, September 11, 2007 11:54

RE: structured Frame

orm already, you wouldn't really be gaining much direct benefit from using structure, would you?) -Fred Ridder From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: structured Frame Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:08:25 -0700 Fred, Good summary. I have one thing to add and one disa

Re: structured Frame (another Fred heard from)

Miriam asked about the benefits of structured Frame. Fred Ridder suggested that the payoff for a small writing group might not be big. This question comes up periodically on this list, but I guess it is always new to someone and therefore always worth answering. I too am a sole writer. I've b

Re: Structured Frame

Miriam Boral wrote: > I'm the sole tech writer for a very small company, but we have a > large suite of documentation. I'm beginning to teach myself > structured Frame both because I feel it's the way of the future (and > therefore worth learning) and also to explore how it might (or might > not)

RE: structured Frame

ble. Russ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Fred Ridder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: structured Frame To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@lists.frameusers.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

RE: structured Frame

Since nobody else has chimed in on this one, let me offer a few comments. It seems to me that the big advantages of structured authoring fall into a few general areas: -enhanced ability to publish content in different forms (definition A of "single sourcing") -enhanced ability to reuse content

RE: structured Frame

Me,too...thanks, Kelly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miriam Boral Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 5:09 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: structured Frame Hello Everyone, I'm the sole tech writer for a very small company, bu

RE: Structured Frame Question

On Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:39 PM, Eric Dunn wrote: | On 8/9/07, Mike Feimster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > Now the book is valid, even though the toc is an unstructured file. | | IMO, this is an unfortunate failing of FM or simply a missing feature. | | FM should be able to produce stru

Re: Structured Frame Question

On 8/9/07, Mike Feimster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now the book is valid, even > though the toc is an unstructured file. > IMO, this is an unfortunate failing of FM or simply a missing feature. FM should be able to produce structured generated files. could be perhaps accomplished by adding ele

RE: Structured Frame Question

ECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Structured Frame Question Hi Nancy, Yes, but the book's structure may not be valid. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Hi all, > > Is it possible to mix unstructured Frame files with structured Frame

Re: Structured Frame Question

Hi Nancy, Yes, but the book's structure may not be valid. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi all, Is it possible to mix unstructured Frame files with structured Frame files in the same book? Thanks, Nancy Adams ___

Re: Structured Frame Question

Yes! That's how you would add generated lists into a structured book HTH Mark Poston On 9/8/07 15:58, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Is it possible to mix unstructured Frame files with structured Frame files > in the same book? > > Thanks, > Nancy Adams > > >

RE: Structured Frame saving XML

As well as the other suggestions re read/write rules, perhaps you could turn Smart Spaces off. -- Hedley Finger Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist MYOB Australia Pty Ltd P.O. box 371 Blackburn VIC 3130 Australia 12 Wesley Court Tally Ho Business Park East

Re: Structured Frame saving XML

Trevor: > Because our XML files are managed by a source control system, ... ... you are using the wrong tool. Source control systems are meant for program source code where line breaks have meaning, usually to separate program statements. You need an XML-aware content management system that u

RE: Structured Frame saving XML

888 882-2819 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trevor Nicholls Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 7:52 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Structured Frame saving XML Well... suppose we have a source code fragment following this kind of

Re: Structured Frame saving XML

From: "Trevor Nicholls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Because our XML files are managed by a source control > system, I would like to minimize the differences between revisions, and > Frame's apparent perversity regarding line-wrapping in particular is making > this difficult. > > Is it following any rule

RE: Structured Frame saving XML

> Our source documents are in XML and we edit in structured > Frame. I have XSL processes running successfully on Open and > Save and I have no issues with the validity of the XML which > Frame is giving me. However I do have an issue with the > layout. Because our XML files are managed by a so

RE: Structured Frame saving XML

d [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 3 March 2007 4:28 a.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Structured Frame saving XML Trevor Nicholls wrote: > Our source documents are in XML and we edit in structured > Frame. I have XSL processes running succes

RE: Structured Frame Saving XML

What, exactly, do you mean by Frame's "perversity" in line wrapping? What, exactly, are you comparing it with on the XML side? Frame's line wrapping actions are dependent upon settings in the paragraph designer, including: * Under Advanced (automatic hyphenation) * Under Basic (indents). --- T

RE: Structured Frame saving XML

Trevor Nicholls wrote: > Our source documents are in XML and we edit in structured > Frame. I have XSL processes running successfully on Open and > Save and I have no issues with the validity of the XML which > Frame is giving me. However I do have an issue with the > layout. Because our XML

RE: Structured Frame s-l-o-w-l-y opening a document

Trevor, This is my experience with long XML files as well. I'm pretty sure it is caused by the application of formatting by the EDD, which takes some time when it has to evaluate formatting rules element-by-element for 500 pages. It doesn't need to do this for a .FM file, because the formatti

Re: Structured Frame Maker issue

At 11:15 PM 8/8/2006, Venkatesh wrote: 1. I have defined an element "Index" as . 2. I have defined another element "Glossary" with some sub elements. 3. My book is defined with the above elements as optional with only one occurrence in it (Glossary?, Index?) 4. I have included both these elem