RE: roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Kelly McDaniel
Subject: RE: roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg? Ben Hechter wrote: If you had to design roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp) for a constantly evolving product, would you: a) begin in Framemaker and export to Robohelp b) begin

RE: roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Michael O'Neill
If Jim Owens is right, and there are desirable help features that can't be implemented via FM, then these are shortcomings in the tools that ought to be put on the enhancement request list. But, IMHO, make the HTML roundtrippable should not be one of those requests. Every tool has it's

Re: roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Deirdre Reagan
As I have no idea what this conversation is about (great way to open a discussion in which I offer my thoughts!), I googled round-trip and the Wikipedia definition says something along the lines of (no, wait, it's actually a direct quote): The term round-trip is commonly used in document

Re: roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Jim Owens
That sounds about right to me. In the DITA world, round-tripping might mean that you could write your document in Frame, export it to XML, edit the XML in some other editor, then bring it back into Frame with the edits intact. Single-sourcing, on the other hand, is a one-way operation where

RE: roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp -chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Schmidt, Tom
You left out the is between Dying and to. Thomas Schmidt -Original Message- Dying to sit at the grown-ups table, Deirdre The Customer Rules! You call, we JUMP!

roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Kelly McDaniel
d > Sent: 2008-05-21 11:57 > To: bhechter at objectives.ca; framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg? > > Ben Hechter wrote: > > > If you had to design roundtrip documentation and help > >

roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Michael O'Neill
> > If Jim Owens is right, and there are desirable help features that can't > be implemented via FM, then these are shortcomings in the tools that > ought to be put on the enhancement request list. But, IMHO, "make the > HTML roundtrippable" should not be one of those requests. > Every tool has

roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Deirdre Reagan
As I have no idea what this conversation is about (great way to open a discussion in which I offer my thoughts!), I googled "round-trip" and the Wikipedia definition says something along the lines of (no, wait, it's actually a direct quote): "The term round-trip is commonly used in document

roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp - chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Jim Owens
That sounds about right to me. In the DITA world, "round-tripping" might mean that you could write your document in Frame, export it to XML, edit the XML in some other editor, then bring it back into Frame with the edits intact. Single-sourcing, on the other hand, is a one-way operation where

roundtrip documentation and help (Framemaker/Robohelp -chickenoregg?

2008-05-21 Thread Schmidt, Tom
You left out the "is" between "Dying" and "to". Thomas Schmidt -Original Message- Dying to sit at the grown-ups table, Deirdre The Customer Rules! You call, we JUMP!