automatically insert file name in attribute

[Mollye Barrett]

I'm sure there must be a way to do this and I'm just missing it...

I'm working in Structured Frame 8 and want to automate insertion of file
names for referenced graphics and text insets into attributes for each of
those elements. The attribues are there and I don't want to do this all by
hand.

Can anyone make suggestions?


Mollye Barrett
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Re: Section TOCs

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Flo

Rick Quatro's ChapterTOC Framescript is an ideal solution for this:

http://www.frameexpert.com/scripts/chaptertoc.htm

Surely, you can create "standalone TOCs" (aka miniTOCs or local TOCs) too,
but I find the ChapterTOC Framescript the only way to do this productively.

Kind regards

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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Flo Flosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of how to
> make section TOCs?
>
> I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each part
> has a number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC at the
> beginning, with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new part
> starts, I'd like to have a TOC for the section only which might then include
> three levels. The whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the
> individual parts do not start with page no. 1. Can you give any idea how to
> proceed without having a to copy and paste items manually?
>
> Thanks a lot, Flo
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automatically insert file name in attribute

[Mollye Barrett]

I'm sure there must be a way to do this and I'm just missing it...

I'm working in Structured Frame 8 and want to automate insertion of file
names for referenced graphics and text insets into attributes for each of
those elements. The attribues are there and I don't want to do this all by
hand.

Can anyone make suggestions?

 
Mollye Barrett
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Section TOCs

[Christopher Seal]

However, as the originator wants to have an overall TOC as well as section 
TOCs, surely the parent book would have to be updated to make the overall 
TOC correct?

I am in a similar situation, but trying to fix a document made by another. 
In my case the section TOCs are created and inserted into a section page by 
reference. The section TOC does not form a component of any book.

Chris


>From: "Art Campbell" 
>To: "Christopher Seal" 
>CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Section TOCs
>Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:52:43 -0500
>
>Good question.
>
>The numbering properties in the Section books need to be set to use
>the existing value in the component files, a value that is set by the
>parent book.  But the parent book doesn't require an update action
>because the page / figure / table numbers are dynamic in the component
>files. The parent book would only require an update to refresh chapter
>/ volume numbers if files are added or deleted.
>
>Art
>
>Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No disclaimers 
>apply.
>DoD 358
>
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Seal  
>wrote:
> > As the question relates to a document with continuous numbering I think 
>that
> > the overall book should be updated first in order to get the page 
>numbers
> > correct. Then the section TOCs can be updated. If a section is done 
>first
> > how can it take into account page count changes in front of it?
> >
> > ...Chris
> >
> >> From: "Art Campbell" 
> >> To: "Flo Flosten" 
> >> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> >> Subject: Re: Section TOCs
> >> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:28:03 -0500
> >>
> >> Create small additional books containing the component files for each
> >> section.
> >>
> >> Set up your section TOC and generate it.
> >>
> >> In your parent book, add the section TOC in the appropriate spot.
> >>
> >> When you update, remember that you have to update the section
> >> "booklets" first so the TOC will be accurate.
> >> You could automate this with FrameScript if you have it.
> >>
> >> Art
> >>
> >> Art Campbell
> >>  art.campbell at gmail.com
> >>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> >> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
> >>  No disclaimers 
>apply.
> >>   DoD 358
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Flo Flosten  wrote:
> >> > Hi list,
> >> >
> >> > as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of 
>how
> >> > to make section TOCs?
> >> >
> >> > I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each 
>part
> >> > has a number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC 
>at the
> >> > beginning, with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new 
>part
> >> > starts, I'd like to have a TOC for the section only which might then 
>include
> >> > three levels. The whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the
> >> > individual parts do not start with page no. 1. Can you give any idea 
>how to
> >> > proceed without having a to copy and paste items manually?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks a lot, Flo
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Can't open files - FM crashes!

[Jacob Schäffer]

I'm running XP SP3 and have no problems with referenced graphic objects.

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> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] P? vegne af Art Campbell
> Sendt: 13. november 2008 19:18
> Til: Fausset, Marilyn
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Emne: Re: Can't open files - FM crashes!
> 
> 
> Marilyn,
> 
> This is the first time I've seen a reference to SP3 having 
> any effect at all on referenced graphics. Could you share 
> your experience, please?
> 
> It does create a problem with OLE objects in FM files because 
> SP3 patches OLE security holes and breaks the embedded OLE 
> links in FM files. But that is quite different than 
> referenced graphics.
> 
> Art
> 
> Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a 
> '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No 
> disclaimers apply.
>DoD 358
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Fausset, Marilyn 
>  wrote:
> > Leah,
> > Check to see if XP Service Patch 3 was installed. If so, 
> uninstall it. 
> > It will prevent you from being able to save Frame files with 
> > referenced graphics (in XP). Good luck.
> > Marilyn
> >>>Original msg.  FM 7.0 Windows XP
> >>>Everything worked fine yesterday. Suddenly I cannot open 
> any of my FM
> > files.
> >>>I get an Internal Error message and FM creates an error 
> log. Sometime
> > this
> >>>error message appears after opening a few files in a book and
> > sometimes when
> >>>I open just one file. >>What to do? >>Actually IT did fool around 
> >>>with
> > my computer last night.
> >>>What to do? HELP! >>Leah Smaller
> >
> > Marilyn Fausset
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Section TOCs

[Christopher Seal]

As the question relates to a document with continuous numbering I think that 
the overall book should be updated first in order to get the page numbers 
correct. Then the section TOCs can be updated. If a section is done first 
how can it take into account page count changes in front of it?

...Chris

>From: "Art Campbell" 
>To: "Flo Flosten" 
>CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: Section TOCs
>Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:28:03 -0500
>
>Create small additional books containing the component files for each 
>section.
>
>Set up your section TOC and generate it.
>
>In your parent book, add the section TOC in the appropriate spot.
>
>When you update, remember that you have to update the section
>"booklets" first so the TOC will be accurate.
>You could automate this with FrameScript if you have it.
>
>Art
>
>Art Campbell
>   art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No disclaimers 
>apply.
>DoD 358
>
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Flo Flosten  wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of how 
>to make section TOCs?
> >
> > I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each part 
>has a number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC at the 
>beginning, with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new part 
>starts, I'd like to have a TOC for the section only which might then 
>include three levels. The whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the 
>individual parts do not start with page no. 1. Can you give any idea how to 
>proceed without having a to copy and paste items manually?
> >
> > Thanks a lot, Flo
> > --
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Re: Carriage Return Symbol in Variable?

[David Spreadbury]

Denise,
Should not be a problem. Try placing a backslash (\) before the character, 
i.e., \<.

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Subject: Carriage Return Symbol in Variable?
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 7:37 PM

Hi,

May I ask if anyone knows if it's possible, and if so how to place a
carriage return symbol in a variable?

Thank you,
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Carriage Return Symbol in Variable?

[David Spreadbury]

Denise,
Should not be a problem. Try placing a backslash (\) before the character, 
i.e., \<.

--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Denise Salles  wrote:

From: Denise Salles 
Subject: Carriage Return Symbol in Variable?
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 7:37 PM

Hi,

May I ask if anyone knows if it's possible, and if so how to place a
carriage return symbol in a variable?

Thank you,
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Hi,

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[Denise Salles]

Hi,

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carriage return symbol in a variable?

Thank you,
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EXTENSIS USERS?

[Michael Zaichenko]

well, Extensis provides plugins for Illustrator, InDesign and Quark. I wonder 
if anyone thought of making one for Frame... Probably I should file a request 
with the developers for such a thing. Might be useful to many people.


Michael

> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:04:08 -0500
> From: art.campbell at gmail.com
> To: biozaichenko at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: EXTENSIS USERS?
> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> If you're using it to avoid font substitutions, it's unlikely to work
> with FM because FM does its own font substitutions (which you can
> control by editing the maker.ini file) and I think Suitcase tries to
> work at the OS level --- so it's unlikely to know what's happening
> inside each application.
> 
> Art
> 
> Art Campbell
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>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No disclaimers apply.
>DoD 358
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Michael Zaichenko
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hello Framers,
> > does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows 
> > and integrating it with FrameMaker?
> > I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
> > It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach 
> > yet and so is Photoshop.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Michael
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EXTENSIS USERS?

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers, 
does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows and 
integrating it with FrameMaker?
I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach yet 
and so is Photoshop.

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"Different font metrics"

[Rick Spiegel]

I am getting the following message from FrameMaker when attempting to open 
a document to which we have recently added some Japanese characters:

Document named functions.fm is formatted with different font metrics (for 
example, different character widths or kerning).
Does anyone have any idea what this means and how to correct it?

Thanks in advance,
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Section TOCs

[Flo Flosten]

Hi list,

as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of how to make 
section TOCs?

I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each part has a 
number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC at the beginning, 
with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new part starts, I'd like 
to have a TOC for the section only which might then include three levels. The 
whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the individual parts do not start 
with page no. 1. Can you give any idea how to proceed without having a to copy 
and paste items manually?  

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Section TOCs

[Art Campbell]

Good question.

The numbering properties in the Section books need to be set to use
the existing value in the component files, a value that is set by the
parent book.  But the parent book doesn't require an update action
because the page / figure / table numbers are dynamic in the component
files. The parent book would only require an update to refresh chapter
/ volume numbers if files are added or deleted.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Seal  wrote:
> As the question relates to a document with continuous numbering I think that
> the overall book should be updated first in order to get the page numbers
> correct. Then the section TOCs can be updated. If a section is done first
> how can it take into account page count changes in front of it?
>
> ...Chris
>
>> From: "Art Campbell" 
>> To: "Flo Flosten" 
>> CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Section TOCs
>> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:28:03 -0500
>>
>> Create small additional books containing the component files for each
>> section.
>>
>> Set up your section TOC and generate it.
>>
>> In your parent book, add the section TOC in the appropriate spot.
>>
>> When you update, remember that you have to update the section
>> "booklets" first so the TOC will be accurate.
>> You could automate this with FrameScript if you have it.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> Art Campbell
>>  art.campbell at gmail.com
>>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>>  No disclaimers apply.
>>   DoD 358
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Flo Flosten  wrote:
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of how
>> > to make section TOCs?
>> >
>> > I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each part
>> > has a number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC at the
>> > beginning, with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new part
>> > starts, I'd like to have a TOC for the section only which might then 
>> > include
>> > three levels. The whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the
>> > individual parts do not start with page no. 1. Can you give any idea how to
>> > proceed without having a to copy and paste items manually?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot, Flo
>> > --
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automatically insert file name in attribute

[Mollye Barrett]

   I'm sure there must be a way to do this and I'm just missing it...

   I'm working in Structured Frame 8 and want to automate insertion of  
file names for referenced graphics and text insets into attributes for  
each of those elements. The attribues are there and I don't want to do  
this all by hand.

   Can anyone give me clue?

   Thanks,
Mollye

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Can't open files - FM crashes!

[Mike Wickham]

> Check to see if XP Service Patch 3 was installed. If so, uninstall it.
> It will prevent you from being able to save Frame files with referenced
> graphics (in XP).

I use only referenced graphics and have no problems with them under XP SP3.

Mike Wickham

Section TOCs

[Art Campbell]

Create small additional books containing the component files for each section.

Set up your section TOC and generate it.

In your parent book, add the section TOC in the appropriate spot.

When you update, remember that you have to update the section
"booklets" first so the TOC will be accurate.
You could automate this with FrameScript if you have it.

Art

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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   DoD 358



On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Flo Flosten  wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of how to 
> make section TOCs?
>
> I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each part has 
> a number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC at the 
> beginning, with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new part 
> starts, I'd like to have a TOC for the section only which might then include 
> three levels. The whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the individual 
> parts do not start with page no. 1. Can you give any idea how to proceed 
> without having a to copy and paste items manually?
>
> Thanks a lot, Flo
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Can't open files - FM crashes!

[Art Campbell]

Marilyn,

This is the first time I've seen a reference to SP3 having any effect
at all on referenced graphics. Could you share your experience,
please?

It does create a problem with OLE objects in FM files because SP3
patches OLE security holes and breaks the embedded OLE links in FM
files. But that is quite different than referenced graphics.

Art

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Fausset, Marilyn
 wrote:
> Leah,
> Check to see if XP Service Patch 3 was installed. If so, uninstall it.
> It will prevent you from being able to save Frame files with referenced
> graphics (in XP).
> Good luck.
> Marilyn
>>>Original msg.  FM 7.0 Windows XP
>>>Everything worked fine yesterday. Suddenly I cannot open any of my FM
> files.
>>>I get an Internal Error message and FM creates an error log. Sometime
> this
>>>error message appears after opening a few files in a book and
> sometimes when
>>>I open just one file. >>What to do? >>Actually IT did fool around with
> my computer last night.
>>>What to do? HELP! >>Leah Smaller
>
> Marilyn Fausset
> Technical Writer
> Storage Networking Industry Association
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Mif2Go: controlling graphics position

[Jim Owens]

I'm producing MS HTML Help, and currently trying to position the
graphics using Mif2Go.

In my Frame source, some graphics are anchored "run into para," and
others are anchored "below current line" (with the anchor at the end of
the paragraph). I want each "run into para" graphic placed beside the
para, to the right, and I want each "below current line" graphic placed
below the para, aligned with the left margin.

Accordingly I have added this instruction to the config file:

[GraphAlign]
; place "run-in" graphics to right of para
* = right

and, because I am using a CSS:

[Graphics]
GraphAlignAttributes = Yes

This aligns the "run-in" graphic as I want. But it also causes the
"below" graphic to appear to the right of the paragraph. (Without this
instruction present, it appears below the paragraph as expected.)

The HTML output for the "run-in" graphic is something like:

Paragraph text

The HTML output for the "below" graphic is something like:

Paragraph text

The "below" graphic is set outside the Paragraph text element.
However, it is not in its own  element. This is true whether or not
the [GraphAlign] instruction is present, even if I explicitly set the
default:

[Graphics]
GraphWrapPara = Yes



How can I achieve the effect I want?

Re: Section TOCs

[Christopher Seal]

However, as the originator wants to have an overall TOC as well as section 
TOCs, surely the parent book would have to be updated to make the overall 
TOC correct?


I am in a similar situation, but trying to fix a document made by another. 
In my case the section TOCs are created and inserted into a section page by 
reference. The section TOC does not form a component of any book.


Chris



From: "Art Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Christopher Seal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Section TOCs
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:52:43 -0500

Good question.

The numbering properties in the Section books need to be set to use
the existing value in the component files, a value that is set by the
parent book.  But the parent book doesn't require an update action
because the page / figure / table numbers are dynamic in the component
files. The parent book would only require an update to refresh chapter
/ volume numbers if files are added or deleted.

Art

Art Campbell
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers 
apply.

   DoD 358



On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Seal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> As the question relates to a document with continuous numbering I think 
that
> the overall book should be updated first in order to get the page 
numbers
> correct. Then the section TOCs can be updated. If a section is done 
first

> how can it take into account page count changes in front of it?
>
> ...Chris
>
>> From: "Art Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Flo Flosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Section TOCs
>> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:28:03 -0500
>>
>> Create small additional books containing the component files for each
>> section.
>>
>> Set up your section TOC and generate it.
>>
>> In your parent book, add the section TOC in the appropriate spot.
>>
>> When you update, remember that you have to update the section
>> "booklets" first so the TOC will be accurate.
>> You could automate this with FrameScript if you have it.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> Art Campbell
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>>  No disclaimers 
apply.

>>   DoD 358
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Flo Flosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of 
how

>> > to make section TOCs?
>> >
>> > I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each 
part
>> > has a number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC 
at the
>> > beginning, with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new 
part
>> > starts, I'd like to have a TOC for the section only which might then 
include

>> > three levels. The whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the
>> > individual parts do not start with page no. 1. Can you give any idea 
how to

>> > proceed without having a to copy and paste items manually?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot, Flo
>> > --
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automatically insert file name in attribute

[Mollye Barrett]

   I'm sure there must be a way to do this and I'm just missing it...

   I'm working in Structured Frame 8 and want to automate insertion of  
file names for referenced graphics and text insets into attributes for  
each of those elements. The attribues are there and I don't want to do  
this all by hand.

   Can anyone give me clue?

   Thanks,
Mollye

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content management solutions
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Re: Can't open files - FM crashes!

[Mike Wickham]

> Check to see if XP Service Patch 3 was installed. If so, uninstall it.
> It will prevent you from being able to save Frame files with referenced
> graphics (in XP).

I use only referenced graphics and have no problems with them under XP SP3.

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Can't open files - FM crashes!

[Fausset, Marilyn]

Leah,
Check to see if XP Service Patch 3 was installed. If so, uninstall it.
It will prevent you from being able to save Frame files with referenced
graphics (in XP).
Good luck. 
Marilyn
>>Original msg.  FM 7.0 Windows XP
>>Everything worked fine yesterday. Suddenly I cannot open any of my FM
files.
>>I get an Internal Error message and FM creates an error log. Sometime
this
>>error message appears after opening a few files in a book and
sometimes when
>>I open just one file. >>What to do? >>Actually IT did fool around with
my computer last night. 
>>What to do? HELP! >>Leah Smaller

Marilyn Fausset
Technical Writer
Storage Networking Industry Association

Re: Section TOCs

[Art Campbell]

Good question.

The numbering properties in the Section books need to be set to use
the existing value in the component files, a value that is set by the
parent book.  But the parent book doesn't require an update action
because the page / figure / table numbers are dynamic in the component
files. The parent book would only require an update to refresh chapter
/ volume numbers if files are added or deleted.

Art

Art Campbell
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Christopher Seal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As the question relates to a document with continuous numbering I think that
> the overall book should be updated first in order to get the page numbers
> correct. Then the section TOCs can be updated. If a section is done first
> how can it take into account page count changes in front of it?
>
> ...Chris
>
>> From: "Art Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Flo Flosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: Section TOCs
>> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:28:03 -0500
>>
>> Create small additional books containing the component files for each
>> section.
>>
>> Set up your section TOC and generate it.
>>
>> In your parent book, add the section TOC in the appropriate spot.
>>
>> When you update, remember that you have to update the section
>> "booklets" first so the TOC will be accurate.
>> You could automate this with FrameScript if you have it.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> Art Campbell
>>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
>> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>>  No disclaimers apply.
>>   DoD 358
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Flo Flosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of how
>> > to make section TOCs?
>> >
>> > I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each part
>> > has a number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC at the
>> > beginning, with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new part
>> > starts, I'd like to have a TOC for the section only which might then 
>> > include
>> > three levels. The whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the
>> > individual parts do not start with page no. 1. Can you give any idea how to
>> > proceed without having a to copy and paste items manually?
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot, Flo
>> > --
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Re: Section TOCs

[Christopher Seal]

As the question relates to a document with continuous numbering I think that 
the overall book should be updated first in order to get the page numbers 
correct. Then the section TOCs can be updated. If a section is done first 
how can it take into account page count changes in front of it?


...Chris


From: "Art Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Flo Flosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Section TOCs
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:28:03 -0500

Create small additional books containing the component files for each 
section.


Set up your section TOC and generate it.

In your parent book, add the section TOC in the appropriate spot.

When you update, remember that you have to update the section
"booklets" first so the TOC will be accurate.
You could automate this with FrameScript if you have it.

Art

Art Campbell
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers 
apply.

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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Flo Flosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of how 
to make section TOCs?

>
> I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each part 
has a number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC at the 
beginning, with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new part 
starts, I'd like to have a TOC for the section only which might then 
include three levels. The whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the 
individual parts do not start with page no. 1. Can you give any idea how to 
proceed without having a to copy and paste items manually?

>
> Thanks a lot, Flo
> --
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Re: Section TOCs

[Art Campbell]

Create small additional books containing the component files for each section.

Set up your section TOC and generate it.

In your parent book, add the section TOC in the appropriate spot.

When you update, remember that you have to update the section
"booklets" first so the TOC will be accurate.
You could automate this with FrameScript if you have it.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Flo Flosten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of how to 
> make section TOCs?
>
> I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each part has 
> a number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC at the 
> beginning, with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new part 
> starts, I'd like to have a TOC for the section only which might then include 
> three levels. The whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the individual 
> parts do not start with page no. 1. Can you give any idea how to proceed 
> without having a to copy and paste items manually?
>
> Thanks a lot, Flo
> --
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RE: Can't open files - FM crashes!

[Jacob Schäffer]

I'm running XP SP3 and have no problems with referenced graphic objects.

Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
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> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Art Campbell
> Sendt: 13. november 2008 19:18
> Til: Fausset, Marilyn
> Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Emne: Re: Can't open files - FM crashes!
> 
> 
> Marilyn,
> 
> This is the first time I've seen a reference to SP3 having 
> any effect at all on referenced graphics. Could you share 
> your experience, please?
> 
> It does create a problem with OLE objects in FM files because 
> SP3 patches OLE security holes and breaks the embedded OLE 
> links in FM files. But that is quite different than 
> referenced graphics.
> 
> Art
> 
> Art Campbell
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a 
> '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No 
> disclaimers apply.
>DoD 358
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Fausset, Marilyn 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Leah,
> > Check to see if XP Service Patch 3 was installed. If so, 
> uninstall it. 
> > It will prevent you from being able to save Frame files with 
> > referenced graphics (in XP). Good luck.
> > Marilyn
> >>>Original msg.  FM 7.0 Windows XP
> >>>Everything worked fine yesterday. Suddenly I cannot open 
> any of my FM
> > files.
> >>>I get an Internal Error message and FM creates an error 
> log. Sometime
> > this
> >>>error message appears after opening a few files in a book and
> > sometimes when
> >>>I open just one file. >>What to do? >>Actually IT did fool around 
> >>>with
> > my computer last night.
> >>>What to do? HELP! >>Leah Smaller
> >
> > Marilyn Fausset
> > Technical Writer
> > Storage Networking Industry Association
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Section TOCs

[Flo Flosten]

Hi list,

as I find it hard to search the archive, can anyone give an idea of how to make 
section TOCs?

I use Frame 7.2. I have a book that consists of several parts, each part has a 
number of chapters in it. I would like to have an overall TOC at the beginning, 
with lets say two levels, and at the location where a new part starts, I'd like 
to have a TOC for the section only which might then include three levels. The 
whole book has continuous page numbers, i.e. the individual parts do not start 
with page no. 1. Can you give any idea how to proceed without having a to copy 
and paste items manually?  

Thanks a lot, Flo
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RE: Fonts won't install

[David Boss]

Thanks Syed, but just before I got your message I solved the problem. After
several hours of messing around with fonts, Windows, system restore, etc. I
happened to do a search on the laptop in question (Dell E6500) and found
that this is a known problem with drivers for recent NVIDIA graphics cards.
The solution is at http://laptopvideo2go.com/drivers/xp/178.15.

David 

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> 
> > I moved to a new PC recently  and now find that I can't install any
> type 1
> > or opentype fonts. I get a message that "the font file may be
> damaged". The
> > files were copied from my old PC so I know they are fine. Windows XP
> SP3 (no
> > choice as that's what Dell provided). Any ideas? Please copy direct
> to
> me as
> > I am on digest.
> 
> Just a thought: they may indeed be damaged - depending on how you did
> the copy of the files from the old PC.
> 
> I'd suggest taking the font files from the new PC *back* to the old PC
> and compare bit-for-bit (maybe in a DOS window using "fc") to the files
> that are, I hope, still there.
> 
> If this passes, then you know that it is not the source of the problem.
> If it does not, then the font files may indeed have been corrupted
> during the copy.
> 
> Z


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Re: Can't open files - FM crashes!

[Art Campbell]

Marilyn,

This is the first time I've seen a reference to SP3 having any effect
at all on referenced graphics. Could you share your experience,
please?

It does create a problem with OLE objects in FM files because SP3
patches OLE security holes and breaks the embedded OLE links in FM
files. But that is quite different than referenced graphics.

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> Leah,
> Check to see if XP Service Patch 3 was installed. If so, uninstall it.
> It will prevent you from being able to save Frame files with referenced
> graphics (in XP).
> Good luck.
> Marilyn
>>>Original msg.  FM 7.0 Windows XP
>>>Everything worked fine yesterday. Suddenly I cannot open any of my FM
> files.
>>>I get an Internal Error message and FM creates an error log. Sometime
> this
>>>error message appears after opening a few files in a book and
> sometimes when
>>>I open just one file. >>What to do? >>Actually IT did fool around with
> my computer last night.
>>>What to do? HELP! >>Leah Smaller
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Re: Can't open files - FM crashes!

[Fausset, Marilyn]

Leah,
Check to see if XP Service Patch 3 was installed. If so, uninstall it.
It will prevent you from being able to save Frame files with referenced
graphics (in XP).
Good luck. 
Marilyn
>>Original msg.  FM 7.0 Windows XP
>>Everything worked fine yesterday. Suddenly I cannot open any of my FM
files.
>>I get an Internal Error message and FM creates an error log. Sometime
this
>>error message appears after opening a few files in a book and
sometimes when
>>I open just one file. >>What to do? >>Actually IT did fool around with
my computer last night. 
>>What to do? HELP! >>Leah Smaller

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EXTENSIS USERS?

[Art Campbell]

If you're using it to avoid font substitutions, it's unlikely to work
with FM because FM does its own font substitutions (which you can
control by editing the maker.ini file) and I think Suitcase tries to
work at the OS level --- so it's unlikely to know what's happening
inside each application.

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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Michael Zaichenko
 wrote:
>
> Hello Framers,
> does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows 
> and integrating it with FrameMaker?
> I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
> It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach yet 
> and so is Photoshop.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Michael
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Mif2Go: controlling graphics position

[Jim Owens]

I'm producing MS HTML Help, and currently trying to position the
graphics using Mif2Go.

In my Frame source, some graphics are anchored "run into para," and
others are anchored "below current line" (with the anchor at the end of
the paragraph). I want each "run into para" graphic placed beside the
para, to the right, and I want each "below current line" graphic placed
below the para, aligned with the left margin.

Accordingly I have added this instruction to the config file:

[GraphAlign]
; place "run-in" graphics to right of para
* = right

and, because I am using a CSS:

[Graphics]
GraphAlignAttributes = Yes

This aligns the "run-in" graphic as I want. But it also causes the
"below" graphic to appear to the right of the paragraph. (Without this
instruction present, it appears below the paragraph as expected.)

The HTML output for the "run-in" graphic is something like:

Paragraph text

The HTML output for the "below" graphic is something like:

Paragraph text

The "below" graphic is set outside the Paragraph text element.
However, it is not in its own  element. This is true whether or not
the [GraphAlign] instruction is present, even if I explicitly set the
default:

[Graphics]
GraphWrapPara = Yes



How can I achieve the effect I want?

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Fonts won't install

[syed.hos...@aeris.net]

Ah! Good to know. Thanks ... interesting (and surprising) that the
drivers for a video card can have this effect on fonts.

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: David Boss [mailto:bosscomm at rogers.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:26 PM
> To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net);
framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Fonts won't install
> 
> Thanks Syed, but just before I got your message I solved the problem.
After
> several hours of messing around with fonts, Windows, system restore,
etc. I
> happened to do a search on the laptop in question (Dell E6500) and
found
> that this is a known problem with drivers for recent NVIDIA graphics
cards.
> The solution is at http://laptopvideo2go.com/drivers/xp/178.15.
> 
> David
> 
> Boss Communications -- Technical writing/communications/photography
> mailto:david at bosscommunications.com www.bosscommunications.com
> Phone 416-704-1839 / Fax 416-946-1330 / Mississauga ON
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net [mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net]
> > Sent: November 13, 2008 1:27 AM
> > To: David Boss; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: RE: Fonts won't install
> >
> > > I moved to a new PC recently  and now find that I can't install
any
> > type 1
> > > or opentype fonts. I get a message that "the font file may be
> > damaged". The
> > > files were copied from my old PC so I know they are fine. Windows
XP
> > SP3 (no
> > > choice as that's what Dell provided). Any ideas? Please copy
direct
> > to
> > me as
> > > I am on digest.
> >
> > Just a thought: they may indeed be damaged - depending on how you
did
> > the copy of the files from the old PC.
> >
> > I'd suggest taking the font files from the new PC *back* to the old
PC
> > and compare bit-for-bit (maybe in a DOS window using "fc") to the
files
> > that are, I hope, still there.
> >
> > If this passes, then you know that it is not the source of the
problem.
> > If it does not, then the font files may indeed have been corrupted
> > during the copy.
> >
> > Z
> 

long target names in xref dialog

[Lin Sims]

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:14 AM,   wrote:
> With my installation of Frame 8.0p277, I tried using the modified module
> fmdlg.dll from http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html#4 without success:
>
> FM 8 crashes --consistently-- when I select an image (imported by
> cross-reference into a graphics frame), and select Graphics > Object
> Properties.
>
> I did use several other dialogs that were indeed made wider to accomodate
> longer file names. However, the consistent crashes were unacceptable, and
> I reverted to the original fmdlg.dll. Here's hoping that a version 8 dll
> comes soon. I don't trust my abilities in using Resouce Hacker or similar
> tools, though the advice to make a copy of fmdlg.dll before making edits
> should avoid catastrophe...

Oo, that's good to know. I'm going to take that out right now!

Thanks. I hadn't been playing with any graphics while this has been
installed, so hadn't yet run into the issue.

-- 
Lin Sims

long target names in xref dialog

[tom.k...@kodak.com]

With my installation of Frame 8.0p277, I tried using the modified module 
fmdlg.dll from http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html#4 without success:

FM 8 crashes --consistently-- when I select an image (imported by 
cross-reference into a graphics frame), and select Graphics > Object 
Properties. 

I did use several other dialogs that were indeed made wider to accomodate 
longer file names. However, the consistent crashes were unacceptable, and 
I reverted to the original fmdlg.dll. Here's hoping that a version 8 dll 
comes soon. I don't trust my abilities in using Resouce Hacker or similar 
tools, though the advice to make a copy of fmdlg.dll before making edits 
should avoid catastrophe...

Thomas G (Tom) Kohn | Technical Editor | GCG WW Versamark Engineering 
Services | 
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tom.kohn at kodak.com | +01 937-259-3210 Office | +01 937-271-1484 Mobile | 
+01 937-259-3784 Fax | 
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:26:28 -0500
From: "Laurie Little" 
Subject: RE: long target names in xref dialog
To: "'Stuart Rogers'" 
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <061B2C1FA3F941DDA5143147615AC948 at wordstw.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset="Windows-1252"

Thanks Stuart - I've received two offline suggestions along these lines 
and
am looking at it right now!
Thanks for all the on- and off-line responses!
Laurie


-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:18 PM
To: Laurie Little
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: long target names in xref dialog


Laurie Little wrote:
> We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so 
as
> to facilitate auto-population of  online help).
>
> Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets 
listed
> in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start 
the
> same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.
>
> We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually 
creating
> distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for 
this
> project) changing the structure of the H1s.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas?
> Thanks,
>

You could use a Resource Editor like http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/
to resize your x-ref_main dialog box to accommodate longer names.

Make a backup of fmdlg.dll in Program Files > Adobe > Framemaker >
fminit before you mess with it though!

HTH,

RE: Fonts won't install

[Syed.Hosain]

Ah! Good to know. Thanks ... interesting (and surprising) that the
drivers for a video card can have this effect on fonts.

Z

> -Original Message-
> From: David Boss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:26 PM
> To: Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]);
framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Fonts won't install
> 
> Thanks Syed, but just before I got your message I solved the problem.
After
> several hours of messing around with fonts, Windows, system restore,
etc. I
> happened to do a search on the laptop in question (Dell E6500) and
found
> that this is a known problem with drivers for recent NVIDIA graphics
cards.
> The solution is at http://laptopvideo2go.com/drivers/xp/178.15.
> 
> David
> 
> Boss Communications -- Technical writing/communications/photography
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bosscommunications.com
> Phone 416-704-1839 / Fax 416-946-1330 / Mississauga ON
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: November 13, 2008 1:27 AM
> > To: David Boss; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: RE: Fonts won't install
> >
> > > I moved to a new PC recently  and now find that I can't install
any
> > type 1
> > > or opentype fonts. I get a message that "the font file may be
> > damaged". The
> > > files were copied from my old PC so I know they are fine. Windows
XP
> > SP3 (no
> > > choice as that's what Dell provided). Any ideas? Please copy
direct
> > to
> > me as
> > > I am on digest.
> >
> > Just a thought: they may indeed be damaged - depending on how you
did
> > the copy of the files from the old PC.
> >
> > I'd suggest taking the font files from the new PC *back* to the old
PC
> > and compare bit-for-bit (maybe in a DOS window using "fc") to the
files
> > that are, I hope, still there.
> >
> > If this passes, then you know that it is not the source of the
problem.
> > If it does not, then the font files may indeed have been corrupted
> > during the copy.
> >
> > Z
> 

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RE: EXTENSIS USERS?

[Michael Zaichenko]

well, Extensis provides plugins for Illustrator, InDesign and Quark. I wonder 
if anyone thought of making one for Frame... Probably I should file a request 
with the developers for such a thing. Might be useful to many people.


Michael

> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:04:08 -0500
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> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> 
> If you're using it to avoid font substitutions, it's unlikely to work
> with FM because FM does its own font substitutions (which you can
> control by editing the maker.ini file) and I think Suitcase tries to
> work at the OS level --- so it's unlikely to know what's happening
> inside each application.
> 
> Art
> 
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> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Michael Zaichenko
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Framers,
> > does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows 
> > and integrating it with FrameMaker?
> > I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
> > It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach 
> > yet and so is Photoshop.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Michael
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Re: EXTENSIS USERS?

[Art Campbell]

If you're using it to avoid font substitutions, it's unlikely to work
with FM because FM does its own font substitutions (which you can
control by editing the maker.ini file) and I think Suitcase tries to
work at the OS level --- so it's unlikely to know what's happening
inside each application.

Art

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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Michael Zaichenko
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Framers,
> does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows 
> and integrating it with FrameMaker?
> I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
> It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach yet 
> and so is Photoshop.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Michael
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EXTENSIS USERS?

[Michael Zaichenko]

Hello Framers, 
does anyone have any experience working with Extensis Suitcase for Windows and 
integrating it with FrameMaker?
I'm on XP SP3, FM 7.1. Extensis Suitcase 11.
It works fine with InDesign and Illustrator but FM seems beyond its reach yet 
and so is Photoshop.

Any suggestions?

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Re: long target names in xref dialog

[Lin Sims]

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:14 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> With my installation of Frame 8.0p277, I tried using the modified module
> fmdlg.dll from http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html#4 without success:
>
> FM 8 crashes --consistently-- when I select an image (imported by
> cross-reference into a graphics frame), and select Graphics > Object
> Properties.
>
> I did use several other dialogs that were indeed made wider to accomodate
> longer file names. However, the consistent crashes were unacceptable, and
> I reverted to the original fmdlg.dll. Here's hoping that a version 8 dll
> comes soon. I don't trust my abilities in using Resouce Hacker or similar
> tools, though the advice to make a copy of fmdlg.dll before making edits
> should avoid catastrophe...

Oo, that's good to know. I'm going to take that out right now!

Thanks. I hadn't been playing with any graphics while this has been
installed, so hadn't yet run into the issue.

-- 
Lin Sims
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RE: long target names in xref dialog

[tom . kohn]

With my installation of Frame 8.0p277, I tried using the modified module 
fmdlg.dll from http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker36.html#4 without success:

FM 8 crashes --consistently-- when I select an image (imported by 
cross-reference into a graphics frame), and select Graphics > Object 
Properties. 

I did use several other dialogs that were indeed made wider to accomodate 
longer file names. However, the consistent crashes were unacceptable, and 
I reverted to the original fmdlg.dll. Here's hoping that a version 8 dll 
comes soon. I don't trust my abilities in using Resouce Hacker or similar 
tools, though the advice to make a copy of fmdlg.dll before making edits 
should avoid catastrophe...

Thomas G (Tom) Kohn | Technical Editor | GCG WW Versamark Engineering 
Services | 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | +01 937-259-3210 Office | +01 937-271-1484 Mobile | 
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:26:28 -0500
From: "Laurie Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: long target names in xref dialog
To: "'Stuart Rogers'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset="Windows-1252"

Thanks Stuart - I've received two offline suggestions along these lines 
and
am looking at it right now!
Thanks for all the on- and off-line responses!
Laurie


-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:18 PM
To: Laurie Little
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: long target names in xref dialog


Laurie Little wrote:
> We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so 
as
> to facilitate auto-population of  online help).
>
> Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets 
listed
> in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start 
the
> same way, and the dialog box is not resizable.
>
> We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually 
creating
> distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for 
this
> project) changing the structure of the H1s.
>
> Does anyone have any other ideas?
> Thanks,
>

You could use a Resource Editor like http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/
to resize your x-ref_main dialog box to accommodate longer names.

Make a backup of fmdlg.dll in Program Files > Adobe > Framemaker >
fminit before you mess with it though!

HTH,
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Fonts won't install

[David Boss]

Thanks Syed, but just before I got your message I solved the problem. After
several hours of messing around with fonts, Windows, system restore, etc. I
happened to do a search on the laptop in question (Dell E6500) and found
that this is a known problem with drivers for recent NVIDIA graphics cards.
The solution is at http://laptopvideo2go.com/drivers/xp/178.15.

David 

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> -Original Message-
> From: Syed.Hosain at aeris.net [mailto:Syed.Hosain at aeris.net]
> Sent: November 13, 2008 1:27 AM
> To: David Boss; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Fonts won't install
> 
> > I moved to a new PC recently  and now find that I can't install any
> type 1
> > or opentype fonts. I get a message that "the font file may be
> damaged". The
> > files were copied from my old PC so I know they are fine. Windows XP
> SP3 (no
> > choice as that's what Dell provided). Any ideas? Please copy direct
> to
> me as
> > I am on digest.
> 
> Just a thought: they may indeed be damaged - depending on how you did
> the copy of the files from the old PC.
> 
> I'd suggest taking the font files from the new PC *back* to the old PC
> and compare bit-for-bit (maybe in a DOS window using "fc") to the files
> that are, I hope, still there.
> 
> If this passes, then you know that it is not the source of the problem.
> If it does not, then the font files may indeed have been corrupted
> during the copy.
> 
> Z