My generated lists creates room for sideheads

2009-02-03 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
Hi
In most chapters I use sideheads, but not in the TOC, Index and
Glossary. Although the master pages are set up not to have sideheads
there are sideheads in the generated lists if I import the formats from
my template and update the book.
 
If I remove the sidehead from the body page and update the book the
sideheads are gone.
 
Is it the paragraph formats for the generated lists in my template that
create the sideheads? How should the format be set, so that sideheads
are not created?
 
Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer

Radiometer Medical ApS
Phone +45 3827 3612
Fax +45 3827 2727
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Re: My generated lists creates room for sideheads

2009-02-03 Thread Art Campbell
Verner,

The initial template for generated lists comes from a book component
file, although lots of people maintain separate list/TOC templates
from which they can import formats, including master pages. You can't
import formats from a template until you've generated the initial TOC
for the book and saved that file.

If you've gone on to the Master pages of your lists , clicked each
text frame and turned off SideHeads and then saved the changes before
updating, they should go away.

Check any content that you're creating manually (such as the
Contents title) and make sure those tags don't have Sidehead
checked.

Also, it would be very useful if you provided the details of your
setup: OS, FM version, and so on.

Art


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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
verner.ander...@radiometer.dk wrote:
 Hi
 In most chapters I use sideheads, but not in the TOC, Index and
 Glossary. Although the master pages are set up not to have sideheads
 there are sideheads in the generated lists if I import the formats from
 my template and update the book.

 If I remove the sidehead from the body page and update the book the
 sideheads are gone.

 Is it the paragraph formats for the generated lists in my template that
 create the sideheads? How should the format be set, so that sideheads
 are not created?

 Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
 Verner Andersen
 Technical Writer

 Radiometer Medical ApS
 Phone +45 3827 3612
 Fax +45 3827 2727
 verner.ander...@radiometer.dk
 



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Re: Framers Digest, Vol 40, Issue 3

2009-02-03 Thread Les Smalley
The footnote located in the anchor paragraph is clever but there is another 
issue to point out.  Table footnotes will always occur at the end of the table, 
after all rows, while footnotes in the body text (as the anchor is) occur at 
the bottom of the page and thus could precede the reference in the table.  This 
may not be a problem in fact for Chris but does require watching to avoid.

--- On Tue, 2/3/09, Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.  
jer...@omsys.com  wrote:
Christopher Sealcs...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 I had an instance where I had to replicate a published report, and that 
 report had Tables with footnotes as part of the regular footnote sequence. 
 In FM this was not possible so I faked it as follows. I created a real 
 footnote in the anchor paragraph for the table, and coloured the in-text 
 footnote number white so it wouldn't show. Then I added a superscript
 number (same as the footnote number) in the table to make the reader
 think this was the real reference.

Clever!  The problem is that the number in the table won't link to the
footnote, but people may overlook that.  However, with one slight change
you could make that work too.  Instead of putting in a text superscript
number in the table, use a cross-reference to the real footnote.

A second potential issue is that white text may become visible under some
conditions (like a non-white background), and can be found in searches.
You can minimize the chance of that happening by hiding the anchor para
behind the table.  Use negative space below equal to the line height for
the anchor para, and the same negative amount for space above the table.

HTH!

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RE: My generated lists creates room for sideheads

2009-02-03 Thread Combs, Richard
Andersen, Verner wrote: 

 In most chapters I use sideheads, but not in the TOC, Index and
 Glossary. Although the master pages are set up not to have sideheads
 there are sideheads in the generated lists if I import the formats
from
 my template and update the book.
 
 If I remove the sidehead from the body page and update the book the
 sideheads are gone.
 
 Is it the paragraph formats for the generated lists in my template
that
 create the sideheads? How should the format be set, so that sideheads
 are not created?

No. Room for Side Heads is a property of the text flow. Although it's
set in the Customize Text Frame dialog box, leading many people to
believe it's a frame property, turning it on/off for one text frame in a
flow turns it on/off for all. It has nothing to do with paragraph
formats.

I presume your template file has side heads turned on in its main flow.
When you import formats from it, don't import Page Layouts. 

Set up the master pages in the TOC the way you want them, with side
heads off. Then you can use that file as a template for future generated
lists. :-)

HTH!
Richard


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My document properties in template turns sideheads on for several files where it is unwanted

2009-02-03 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
Hi
I just found out that when I import Document properties to all files
in by book the sideheads are suddenly turned on in several files. TOC,
Glossary, Date page, Inner front. 
 
To remove the sideheads I have to select the frame, select object
properties, and unckeck the Room for sidehead box. I think it will
work if I import all formats apart from theDocument properties when I
am updating my books.
 
Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer

Radiometer Medical ApS
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Re: OT - Acrobat forums

2009-02-03 Thread Art Campbell
Adobe sponsors a user-to-user forum and there's also the Acrobat
Community at acrobatusers.com.

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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Jo Watkiss jowatk...@watkiss.com wrote:
 Can anybody point me in the direction of a good Acrobat forum (like this
 one!) please.  I have a problem with embedded indexes  commenting which
 is driving me crazy.

 TIA
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Does FM9 support ligatures and true small caps?

2009-02-03 Thread Hedley Finger

[BEST IF VIEWED AS HTML MESSAGE]

A number of fonts support ligatures and true small caps, e.g. Linux 
Libertine, some Adobe expert fonts.  (A ligature is when two or more 
distinct letters or characters are collapsed into a single glyph:

Et   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%26U+0026
ſs, ss  ß http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F U+00DF
AE, ae  Æ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86, æ  U+00C6, U+00E6
OE, oe  Œ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%92, œ  U+0152, U+0153
IJ, ij  IJ, ijU+0132, U+0133
ct

?
ue  ᵫ   U+1D6B
ff  ff   U+FB00
fi  fi   U+FB01
fj

?
fl  fl   U+FB02
ft

?
ffi ffi   U+FB03
ffl ffl   U+FB04
fft

?
ſt  ſt   U+FB05
st  st   U+FB06



InDesign cleverly stores words such as 'office', 'piffle', 'cast', 
'fact', etc. as sequences of single letters internally but renders them 
with the ligatures ffi, ffl, st, ct, etc. on the display.  When the 
cursor is placed on one of these ligature glyphs, the display separates 
into single letters to allow correction, forced hyphenation, etc. and 
also separates when a word has to be divided with a hyphen at the end of 
a fully justified line.

Adobe expert fonts and OTF (Open Type Format) fonts also support true 
small caps that have the correct stroke weight, unlike faux small caps 
that are derived by shrinking true capitals, thus accounting for the 
spindly appearance of the thinned-down strokes.

Can anyone tell me whether FrameMaker v. 9 supports ligatures and small 
caps?**  I am working on a publication using the  OpenType packaging of 
Linux Libertine (font name 'Linux Libertine O') but FM will not render 
ligatures and small caps correctly.  Now if Adobe's InDesign product 
(which I do not have) can manage this, why not FM, especially now that 
Unicode support has been added.

If you are viewing the HTML version of this message, you will note in 
the table above that even my crummy email client can do ligatures.

Regards,
Hedley

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consisting of regular plus expert PostScript fonts.  A FrameMaker 
plug-in then allows you to search for groups of letters normally 
rendered as ligatures and replace them with the ligature glyphs as the 
last step before generating a PDF for your printer.  But you have to 
remember to do this on a copy of the publication or have a good version 
management system that allows you to roll back to a previous version!

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urgent - extracting some data from framemaker file to a text file

2009-02-03 Thread Surbhi Singhal
Hello Framers!

Could anybody of you shed some light to how this procedure can be
implemented in framemaker:

I want to extract some data from framemaker file to a text file at the run
of some script.

Please revert in case i was not clear.

Any pointers to this are highly appreciated. (its kinda a lil urgent..)

Thanx a lot in advance

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Save As PDF from Frame 9 to Acrobat 9 Woes

2009-02-03 Thread orandeep
I just loaded Tech Comm Suite 2 onto a brand new Dell Precision M6300.
I was using Frame 8  Acrobat 8 on a Dell Latitude until this week.
I have always used the Save As PDF, both for Web versions of small size and 
print versions of high quality with excellent results on the Latitude. This has 
always been seamless and wonderful.

When I opened the Frame file in Version 9 and did a Save As to Acrobat Version 
9, using exactly the same settings, the PDF file became unusable garbage on 
several fronts:
Fonts were not mapped correctly. (They were a disaster)
Simple raster images became heavily pixelated and garbage (worse than the image 
in Frame)
Problems included, but were not limited to:
*Impact font did not map at all, became boxes.
*Arial Black was mapped to Times.
*Random areas had strings of characters mapped to different characters, whereas 
other characters using the exact same font and settings mapped OK.
*The file included (Import by reference) PDFs created from Word that have 
several different fonts. These fonts were rasterized garbage, whereas in 
Version 8 they were pass-through fonts that were great at any zoom setting.
*I have Adobe PDF set as the default printer.
I tried different job options and font embedding settings with absolutely no 
difference in the output results. It was like most settings were being ignored 
and was like it was trying to use a non-postscript printer (not Adobe PDF) to 
create the PDF. Postscript functions were not working, that is for sure.

I finally did a print to PDF (which is much less convenient and more 
troublesome), changing nothing but the method of creating the PDF (Save As vs. 
Print). (all settings the same). It came out perfect, with all fonts and raster 
images of the expected quality, basically equal to the Frame 8 Acrobat 8 
version.
So do I have a setting wrong, or do we have a major bug here? I really need the 
Save As to work. I never had issues like these with earlier versions.
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My generated lists creates "room for sideheads"

2009-02-03 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
Hi
In most chapters I use sideheads, but not in the TOC, Index and
Glossary. Although the master pages are set up not to have sideheads
there are sideheads in the generated lists if I import the formats from
my template and update the book.

If I remove the sidehead from the body page and update the book the
sideheads are gone.

Is it the paragraph formats for the generated lists in my template that
create the sideheads? How should the format be set, so that sideheads
are not created?

Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer

Radiometer Medical ApS
Phone +45 3827 3612
Fax +45 3827 2727
verner.andersen at radiometer.dk




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OT - Acrobat forums

2009-02-03 Thread Jo Watkiss
Can anybody point me in the direction of a good Acrobat forum (like this
one!) please.  I have a problem with embedded indexes & commenting which
is driving me crazy.

TIA
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OT - Acrobat forums

2009-02-03 Thread Art Campbell
Adobe sponsors a user-to-user forum and there's also the Acrobat
Community at acrobatusers.com.

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> Can anybody point me in the direction of a good Acrobat forum (like this
> one!) please.  I have a problem with embedded indexes & commenting which
> is driving me crazy.
>
> TIA
> Jo Watkiss
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My generated lists creates "room for sideheads"

2009-02-03 Thread Art Campbell
Verner,

The initial template for generated lists comes from a book component
file, although lots of people maintain separate list/TOC templates
from which they can import formats, including master pages. You can't
import formats from a template until you've generated the initial TOC
for the book and saved that file.

If you've gone on to the Master pages of your lists , clicked each
text frame and turned off SideHeads and then saved the changes before
updating, they should go away.

Check any content that you're creating manually (such as the
"Contents" title) and make sure those tags don't have "Sidehead"
checked.

Also, it would be very useful if you provided the details of your
setup: OS, FM version, and so on.

Art


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On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
 wrote:
> Hi
> In most chapters I use sideheads, but not in the TOC, Index and
> Glossary. Although the master pages are set up not to have sideheads
> there are sideheads in the generated lists if I import the formats from
> my template and update the book.
>
> If I remove the sidehead from the body page and update the book the
> sideheads are gone.
>
> Is it the paragraph formats for the generated lists in my template that
> create the sideheads? How should the format be set, so that sideheads
> are not created?
>
> Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
> Verner Andersen
> Technical Writer
>
> Radiometer Medical ApS
> Phone +45 3827 3612
> Fax +45 3827 2727
> verner.andersen at radiometer.dk
> 
>
>
>
> Radiometer Medical ApS
> Akandevej 21
> 2700 Bronshoj
> Denmark
> Phone: +45 38 27 38 27
> CVR: 27 50 91 85
>
> 
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Framers Digest, Vol 40, Issue 3

2009-02-03 Thread Les Smalley
The footnote located in the anchor paragraph is clever but there is another 
issue to point out.? Table footnotes will always occur at the end of the table, 
after all rows, while footnotes in the body text (as the anchor is) occur at 
the bottom of the page and thus could precede the reference in the table.? This 
may not be a problem in fact for Chris but does require watching to avoid.

--- On Tue, 2/3/09,?Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.wrote:
"Christopher Seal" wrote:

> I had an instance where I had to replicate a published report, and that 
> report had Tables with footnotes as part of the regular footnote sequence. 
> In FM this was not possible so I faked it as follows. I created a real 
> footnote in the anchor paragraph for the table, and coloured the in-text 
> footnote number white so it wouldn't show. Then I added a superscript
> number (same as the footnote number) in the table to make the reader
> think this was the real reference.

Clever!  The problem is that the number in the table won't link to the
footnote, but people may overlook that.  However, with one slight change
you could make that work too.  Instead of putting in a text superscript
number in the table, use a cross-reference to the real footnote.

A second potential issue is that white text may become visible under some
conditions (like a non-white background), and can be found in searches.
You can minimize the chance of that happening by hiding the anchor para
behind the table.  Use negative space below equal to the line height for
the anchor para, and the same negative amount for space above the table.

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/

? Lester Smalley
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My generated lists creates "room for sideheads"

2009-02-03 Thread Combs, Richard
Andersen, Verner wrote: 

> In most chapters I use sideheads, but not in the TOC, Index and
> Glossary. Although the master pages are set up not to have sideheads
> there are sideheads in the generated lists if I import the formats
from
> my template and update the book.
> 
> If I remove the sidehead from the body page and update the book the
> sideheads are gone.
> 
> Is it the paragraph formats for the generated lists in my template
that
> create the sideheads? How should the format be set, so that sideheads
> are not created?

No. Room for Side Heads is a property of the text flow. Although it's
set in the Customize Text Frame dialog box, leading many people to
believe it's a frame property, turning it on/off for one text frame in a
flow turns it on/off for all. It has nothing to do with paragraph
formats.

I presume your template file has side heads turned on in its main flow.
When you import formats from it, don't import Page Layouts. 

Set up the master pages in the TOC the way you want them, with side
heads off. Then you can use that file as a template for future generated
lists. :-)

HTH!
Richard


Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for several files where it is unwanted

2009-02-03 Thread Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
Hi
I just found out that when I import "Document properties" to all files
in by book the sideheads are suddenly turned on in several files. TOC,
Glossary, Date page, Inner front. 

To remove the sideheads I have to select the frame, select object
properties, and unckeck the "Room for sidehead" box. I think it will
work if I import all formats apart from the"Document properties" when I
am updating my books.

Med venlig hilsen - Best regards
Verner Andersen
Technical Writer

Radiometer Medical ApS
Phone +45 3827 3612
Fax +45 3827 2727
verner.andersen at radiometer.dk




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My document "properties" in template turns sideheads on for severalfiles where it is unwanted

2009-02-03 Thread Combs, Richard
Andersen, Verner wrote: 

> I just found out that when I import "Document properties" to all files
> in by book the sideheads are suddenly turned on in several files. TOC,
> Glossary, Date page, Inner front.

 That's right, it's Document Properties, not Page
Layout. Sorry 'bout that. 

Richard


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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303-223-5111
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