TOUGH ONE

2007-01-27 Thread Michael Zaichenko
Peter thanks again,
Problem was in that I'm not a pro-e-mail/internet user, lol, and sometimes 
I'm not even aware if I infoed anyone else. I'm putting this one to the 
list. :-)
Now, to the subject. You are right - it is worth looking into Structured 
Frame. I'm only about half-aware of it's possibilities. Will need some 
learning.
I solved this 'one-property' copying/pasting problem by creating a command 
at Frame Initialization that creates a script which stores specified 
settings, each time I press a shortcut key and runs it with a press of 
another key. It works with any one or a set of properties and applies only 
this one or more properties without affecting the rest of them. If anyone 
interested, I can send it to them.
It is FrameScript 4.1. I tried AC but couldn't figure out the objects and 
methods easily (in actual fact I didn't do much with it when I had a trial 
version).

Michael


>From: Peter Gold 
>To: Michael Zaichenko ,  
>framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: TOUGH ONE
>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:40:39 -0600
>
>You're welcome, Michael.
>
>Once again you've only replied to me, rather than to the list. You need to 
>understand that this is a shared community in which whoever knows something 
>to contribute, does contribute. Writing only to one community member puts 
>the work on that person, and also closes off the possibility that others 
>may have more useful information for you.
>
>You're correct that you should have disclosed more detail about the complex 
>task you're working on. You don't say how you're scripting - FrameScript, 
>FrameAC, or some other tool. There are many skilled users of both tools in 
>the FrameMaker user community who could probably offer you some paths to 
>solutions as free advice, or as paid custom scripting help. I do not know 
>any of the scripting tools.
>
>Further, it seems that you may not have any identifying characteristic for 
>the paragraphs that need the special attention, or at least that the 
>decision about when to apply the special attributes to a paragraph isn't 
>available in the paragraph or its format. For this kind of work, perhaps 
>structured FrameMaker would work. It's able to check rules that you set up, 
>and apply formatting and other changes. For example, if you want the last 
>paragraph in a numbered or bulleted list to have extra space after, you can 
>write this into the EDD, and FrameMaker's rules-checker will do it. This 
>means that you only need to apply one format for all list items, instead 
>one for the "regular" items, and a special one for the last. Similarly, a 
>rule can identify the first item in a numbered list, and apply the 
>equivalent of , and apply the equivalent of  to all the others. 
>When you move items in the sequence, the rules recheck the list and apply 
>the first-item rule to the new first item, and the last-item rule to the 
>new last item.
>
>Taking on the task of migrating to structure isn't trivial, but if you're 
>already willing to invest in learning scripting, you might find advantages 
>to learning the structured approach. There are many skilled structure folks 
>in the community who can help you when you get stuck.
>
>I'm copying this to the list, for others to see, and perhaps comment upon.
>
>Regards,
>
>Peter Gold
>KnowHow ProServices
>
>
>Michael Zaichenko wrote:
>>Peter, thanks for such an extensive answer.
>>I took notes. Sorry for not telling you at the start, I'm quite advanced 
>>in FrameMaker and been scripting for years. It is as well my omission to 
>>not tell you I'm looking for a scripting solution to this pbm. See, what 
>>I'm trying to resolve here is a separate page or a spread where only one 
>>property of each (no necessarily consecutive) paragraph (not necessarily 
>>similarly tagged) has to change independently of the rest of the 
>>properties (this would need to be done on several files). Like if you 
>>would copy and paste paragraph properties but only selected ones.
>>I'm developing a script to do this thing and I'm half way with it - 
>>storing needed attributed in an .ini file. The bug I'm running into is 
>>that I can't replace properties in the property list or apply only those 
>>from the .ini file. .ini file contains strings like 'PROPERTY 
>>KeepWithNext(0)'
>>See what I mean? Sorry for not being clear at the start.
>>Michael
>>
>>
>>>From: Peter Gold 
>>>To: Michael Zaichenko 
>>>Subject: Re: TOUGH ONE
>>>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:52:05 -0600
>>>
>>>Hi, Michael:
>>>
>>>(PLEASE NOTE: It's always a good idea to reply to the list, or both the 
>>>list and the person, rather than replying only to the person. This helps 
>>>share the information as well as the effort of responding to follow-on 
>>>questions.)
>>>
>>>Thanks for your question. I took a closer look at the help documentation 
>>>and noticed - actually, I didn't notice - the important missing step:
>>>
>>>To modify specific paragraph or character attributes across several 
>>>differ

Reply vs. Reply All (Was TOUGH ONE)

2007-01-27 Thread Mike Wickham
> Once again you've only replied to me, rather than to the list. You need to 
> understand that this is a shared community in which whoever knows 
> something to contribute, does contribute. Writing only to one community 
> member puts the work on that person, and also closes off the possibility 
> that others may have more useful information for you.

Like Michael, I often send replies to the original poster only, and not to 
the forum. It's not intentional. It's just that, of all the fora I visit on 
the Web, this is the only one that is not set by default to reply to the 
group. I never have to use the Reply All button anywhere else, so I almost 
always forget and hit the Reply button out of habit.

I think it's silly that a person has to enter the FrameUsers address 
manually in a reply (once you've started composing, it's the only way to add 
it), or remember to hit a different button (Reply All) _before_ you compose 
a reply to the forum. I wish the forum default setting was changed in this 
regard. But I know the topic has come up before and some feel it's more 
important to be sure the original poster gets a direct copy of the reply, 
rather than the forum. So there's the trade-off.

Mike Wickham

P.S. It was only at the last moment that I remembered to manaully addthe 
FrameUsers address into this reply, or you alone would have seen it!





Re: TOUGH ONE

2007-01-27 Thread Michael Zaichenko

Peter thanks again,
Problem was in that I'm not a pro-e-mail/internet user, lol, and sometimes 
I'm not even aware if I infoed anyone else. I'm putting this one to the 
list. :-)
Now, to the subject. You are right - it is worth looking into Structured 
Frame. I'm only about half-aware of it's possibilities. Will need some 
learning.
I solved this 'one-property' copying/pasting problem by creating a command 
at Frame Initialization that creates a script which stores specified 
settings, each time I press a shortcut key and runs it with a press of 
another key. It works with any one or a set of properties and applies only 
this one or more properties without affecting the rest of them. If anyone 
interested, I can send it to them.
It is FrameScript 4.1. I tried AC but couldn't figure out the objects and 
methods easily (in actual fact I didn't do much with it when I had a trial 
version).


Michael



From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Michael Zaichenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  
framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: Re: TOUGH ONE
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 10:40:39 -0600

You're welcome, Michael.

Once again you've only replied to me, rather than to the list. You need to 
understand that this is a shared community in which whoever knows something 
to contribute, does contribute. Writing only to one community member puts 
the work on that person, and also closes off the possibility that others 
may have more useful information for you.


You're correct that you should have disclosed more detail about the complex 
task you're working on. You don't say how you're scripting - FrameScript, 
FrameAC, or some other tool. There are many skilled users of both tools in 
the FrameMaker user community who could probably offer you some paths to 
solutions as free advice, or as paid custom scripting help. I do not know 
any of the scripting tools.


Further, it seems that you may not have any identifying characteristic for 
the paragraphs that need the special attention, or at least that the 
decision about when to apply the special attributes to a paragraph isn't 
available in the paragraph or its format. For this kind of work, perhaps 
structured FrameMaker would work. It's able to check rules that you set up, 
and apply formatting and other changes. For example, if you want the last 
paragraph in a numbered or bulleted list to have extra space after, you can 
write this into the EDD, and FrameMaker's rules-checker will do it. This 
means that you only need to apply one format for all list items, instead 
one for the "regular" items, and a special one for the last. Similarly, a 
rule can identify the first item in a numbered list, and apply the 
equivalent of , and apply the equivalent of  to all the others. 
When you move items in the sequence, the rules recheck the list and apply 
the first-item rule to the new first item, and the last-item rule to the 
new last item.


Taking on the task of migrating to structure isn't trivial, but if you're 
already willing to invest in learning scripting, you might find advantages 
to learning the structured approach. There are many skilled structure folks 
in the community who can help you when you get stuck.


I'm copying this to the list, for others to see, and perhaps comment upon.

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices


Michael Zaichenko wrote:

Peter, thanks for such an extensive answer.
I took notes. Sorry for not telling you at the start, I'm quite advanced 
in FrameMaker and been scripting for years. It is as well my omission to 
not tell you I'm looking for a scripting solution to this pbm. See, what 
I'm trying to resolve here is a separate page or a spread where only one 
property of each (no necessarily consecutive) paragraph (not necessarily 
similarly tagged) has to change independently of the rest of the 
properties (this would need to be done on several files). Like if you 
would copy and paste paragraph properties but only selected ones.
I'm developing a script to do this thing and I'm half way with it - 
storing needed attributed in an .ini file. The bug I'm running into is 
that I can't replace properties in the property list or apply only those 
from the .ini file. .ini file contains strings like 'PROPERTY 
KeepWithNext(0)'

See what I mean? Sorry for not being clear at the start.
Michael



From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Michael Zaichenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TOUGH ONE
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:52:05 -0600

Hi, Michael:

(PLEASE NOTE: It's always a good idea to reply to the list, or both the 
list and the person, rather than replying only to the person. This helps 
share the information as well as the effort of responding to follow-on 
questions.)


Thanks for your question. I took a closer look at the help documentation 
and noticed - actually, I didn't notice - the important missing step:


To modify specific paragraph or character attributes across several 
different character or paragraph formats:


NOTE: Always e

Reply vs. Reply All (Was TOUGH ONE)

2007-01-27 Thread Mike Wickham
Once again you've only replied to me, rather than to the list. You need to 
understand that this is a shared community in which whoever knows 
something to contribute, does contribute. Writing only to one community 
member puts the work on that person, and also closes off the possibility 
that others may have more useful information for you.


Like Michael, I often send replies to the original poster only, and not to 
the forum. It's not intentional. It's just that, of all the fora I visit on 
the Web, this is the only one that is not set by default to reply to the 
group. I never have to use the Reply All button anywhere else, so I almost 
always forget and hit the Reply button out of habit.


I think it's silly that a person has to enter the FrameUsers address 
manually in a reply (once you've started composing, it's the only way to add 
it), or remember to hit a different button (Reply All) _before_ you compose 
a reply to the forum. I wish the forum default setting was changed in this 
regard. But I know the topic has come up before and some feel it's more 
important to be sure the original poster gets a direct copy of the reply, 
rather than the forum. So there's the trade-off.


Mike Wickham

P.S. It was only at the last moment that I remembered to manaully addthe 
FrameUsers address into this reply, or you alone would have seen it!



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Weird Frame to PDF problem

2007-01-27 Thread Art Campbell
Gillian,

Given that the problem seems to be in Acrobat and not Frame, what
version of acrobat are you running?

When you say you're trying to "resave," does this mean that you've
modified the .PDF and are trying to save it back to the same file
name, or something else?

Have you posted or browsed Adobe's Acrobat user forum?

Art

On 1/26/07, Gillian Flato  wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I have a typical Frame Book with .fm files in it. When I save it to PDF
> in a new folder, it's fine. When I try to resave, I get the following
> message:
>
> >>"Adobe PDF" cannot access the file because it is un use by another
> application or process:
>
> G:\\blah\blah\blah\mypdf.pdf
>
> Verify that the file is not open by another application or process and
> try again.>>
>
> It's weird because no one else is accessing the file and it's not open
> by any other program.
>
> My IT guy looked at the file and said that there was no security info on
> it. The only way he could break the link to the PDF so I could delete it
> was to reboot the server. I am working on a network drive.
>
> Does this give anyone any ideas? As we get toward release time, I am
> constantly rebuilding this PDF. This problem is really hosing me up.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> 
>
> Gillian Flato
>
> Technical Writer (Software)
>
> nanometrics
>
> 1550 Buckeye Dr.
>
> Milpitas, CA. 95035
>
> (408.435.9600 x 316
>
> 7  408.232.5911
>
> * gflato at nanometrics  .com
> 
>
>
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TOUGH ONE

2007-01-27 Thread Peter Gold
You're welcome, Michael.

Once again you've only replied to me, rather than to the list. You need 
to understand that this is a shared community in which whoever knows 
something to contribute, does contribute. Writing only to one community 
member puts the work on that person, and also closes off the possibility 
that others may have more useful information for you.

You're correct that you should have disclosed more detail about the 
complex task you're working on. You don't say how you're scripting - 
FrameScript, FrameAC, or some other tool. There are many skilled users 
of both tools in the FrameMaker user community who could probably offer 
you some paths to solutions as free advice, or as paid custom scripting 
help. I do not know any of the scripting tools.

Further, it seems that you may not have any identifying characteristic 
for the paragraphs that need the special attention, or at least that the 
decision about when to apply the special attributes to a paragraph isn't 
available in the paragraph or its format. For this kind of work, perhaps 
structured FrameMaker would work. It's able to check rules that you set 
up, and apply formatting and other changes. For example, if you want the 
last paragraph in a numbered or bulleted list to have extra space after, 
you can write this into the EDD, and FrameMaker's rules-checker will do 
it. This means that you only need to apply one format for all list 
items, instead one for the "regular" items, and a special one for the 
last. Similarly, a rule can identify the first item in a numbered list, 
and apply the equivalent of , and apply the equivalent of  to 
all the others. When you move items in the sequence, the rules recheck 
the list and apply the first-item rule to the new first item, and the 
last-item rule to the new last item.

Taking on the task of migrating to structure isn't trivial, but if 
you're already willing to invest in learning scripting, you might find 
advantages to learning the structured approach. There are many skilled 
structure folks in the community who can help you when you get stuck.

I'm copying this to the list, for others to see, and perhaps comment upon.

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices


Michael Zaichenko wrote:
> Peter, thanks for such an extensive answer.
> I took notes. Sorry for not telling you at the start, I'm quite 
> advanced in FrameMaker and been scripting for years. It is as well my 
> omission to not tell you I'm looking for a scripting solution to this 
> pbm. See, what I'm trying to resolve here is a separate page or a 
> spread where only one property of each (no necessarily consecutive) 
> paragraph (not necessarily similarly tagged) has to change 
> independently of the rest of the properties (this would need to be 
> done on several files). Like if you would copy and paste paragraph 
> properties but only selected ones.
> I'm developing a script to do this thing and I'm half way with it - 
> storing needed attributed in an .ini file. The bug I'm running into is 
> that I can't replace properties in the property list or apply only 
> those from the .ini file. .ini file contains strings like 'PROPERTY 
> KeepWithNext(0)'
> See what I mean? Sorry for not being clear at the start.
> Michael
>
>
>> From: Peter Gold 
>> To: Michael Zaichenko 
>> Subject: Re: TOUGH ONE
>> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:52:05 -0600
>>
>> Hi, Michael:
>>
>> (PLEASE NOTE: It's always a good idea to reply to the list, or both 
>> the list and the person, rather than replying only to the person. 
>> This helps share the information as well as the effort of responding 
>> to follow-on questions.)
>>
>> Thanks for your question. I took a closer look at the help 
>> documentation and noticed - actually, I didn't notice - the important 
>> missing step:
>>
>> To modify specific paragraph or character attributes across several 
>> different character or paragraph formats:
>>
>> NOTE: Always experiment on saved copies, not on your only good 
>> versions of the files.
>>
>> * Select the paragraph formats you want to modify. If they are not 
>> consecutive, rearrange or re-tag a series of paragraphs to suit your 
>> needs.
>>
>> * Open the appropriate designer (Paragraph, Character, or Table - 
>> YES!!! you can redefine tables the same way.)
>>
>> * The missing step: Choose Commands > Set Window to As Is. This makes 
>> all the properties in the designer become "no change."
>>
>> * Choose the property page you need, Basic, Default Font, etc. Set 
>> the specific attribute or attributes on that property page as you need.
>>
>> * Click Update All.
>>
>> * In the Global Update Options dialog box that appears, choose (Name 
>> of the property page) Only (Don't choose All Properties). The 
>> selected paragraphs (characters, tables) are defined to the new 
>> property attribute(s) of this one property page.
>>
>> * Change to another property page, again choose Commands > Set Window 
>> to As Is, and repeat with this and a

Re: TOUGH ONE

2007-01-27 Thread Peter Gold

You're welcome, Michael.

Once again you've only replied to me, rather than to the list. You need 
to understand that this is a shared community in which whoever knows 
something to contribute, does contribute. Writing only to one community 
member puts the work on that person, and also closes off the possibility 
that others may have more useful information for you.


You're correct that you should have disclosed more detail about the 
complex task you're working on. You don't say how you're scripting - 
FrameScript, FrameAC, or some other tool. There are many skilled users 
of both tools in the FrameMaker user community who could probably offer 
you some paths to solutions as free advice, or as paid custom scripting 
help. I do not know any of the scripting tools.


Further, it seems that you may not have any identifying characteristic 
for the paragraphs that need the special attention, or at least that the 
decision about when to apply the special attributes to a paragraph isn't 
available in the paragraph or its format. For this kind of work, perhaps 
structured FrameMaker would work. It's able to check rules that you set 
up, and apply formatting and other changes. For example, if you want the 
last paragraph in a numbered or bulleted list to have extra space after, 
you can write this into the EDD, and FrameMaker's rules-checker will do 
it. This means that you only need to apply one format for all list 
items, instead one for the "regular" items, and a special one for the 
last. Similarly, a rule can identify the first item in a numbered list, 
and apply the equivalent of , and apply the equivalent of  to 
all the others. When you move items in the sequence, the rules recheck 
the list and apply the first-item rule to the new first item, and the 
last-item rule to the new last item.


Taking on the task of migrating to structure isn't trivial, but if 
you're already willing to invest in learning scripting, you might find 
advantages to learning the structured approach. There are many skilled 
structure folks in the community who can help you when you get stuck.


I'm copying this to the list, for others to see, and perhaps comment upon.

Regards,

Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices


Michael Zaichenko wrote:

Peter, thanks for such an extensive answer.
I took notes. Sorry for not telling you at the start, I'm quite 
advanced in FrameMaker and been scripting for years. It is as well my 
omission to not tell you I'm looking for a scripting solution to this 
pbm. See, what I'm trying to resolve here is a separate page or a 
spread where only one property of each (no necessarily consecutive) 
paragraph (not necessarily similarly tagged) has to change 
independently of the rest of the properties (this would need to be 
done on several files). Like if you would copy and paste paragraph 
properties but only selected ones.
I'm developing a script to do this thing and I'm half way with it - 
storing needed attributed in an .ini file. The bug I'm running into is 
that I can't replace properties in the property list or apply only 
those from the .ini file. .ini file contains strings like 'PROPERTY 
KeepWithNext(0)'

See what I mean? Sorry for not being clear at the start.
Michael



From: Peter Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Michael Zaichenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TOUGH ONE
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:52:05 -0600

Hi, Michael:

(PLEASE NOTE: It's always a good idea to reply to the list, or both 
the list and the person, rather than replying only to the person. 
This helps share the information as well as the effort of responding 
to follow-on questions.)


Thanks for your question. I took a closer look at the help 
documentation and noticed - actually, I didn't notice - the important 
missing step:


To modify specific paragraph or character attributes across several 
different character or paragraph formats:


NOTE: Always experiment on saved copies, not on your only good 
versions of the files.


* Select the paragraph formats you want to modify. If they are not 
consecutive, rearrange or re-tag a series of paragraphs to suit your 
needs.


* Open the appropriate designer (Paragraph, Character, or Table - 
YES!!! you can redefine tables the same way.)


* The missing step: Choose Commands > Set Window to As Is. This makes 
all the properties in the designer become "no change."


* Choose the property page you need, Basic, Default Font, etc. Set 
the specific attribute or attributes on that property page as you need.


* Click Update All.

* In the Global Update Options dialog box that appears, choose (Name 
of the property page) Only (Don't choose All Properties). The 
selected paragraphs (characters, tables) are defined to the new 
property attribute(s) of this one property page.


* Change to another property page, again choose Commands > Set Window 
to As Is, and repeat with this and any other property pages you need.


When you're done with these changes and have decided that they ar

Re: Weird Frame to PDF problem

2007-01-27 Thread Art Campbell

Gillian,

Given that the problem seems to be in Acrobat and not Frame, what
version of acrobat are you running?

When you say you're trying to "resave," does this mean that you've
modified the .PDF and are trying to save it back to the same file
name, or something else?

Have you posted or browsed Adobe's Acrobat user forum?

Art

On 1/26/07, Gillian Flato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Guys,

I have a typical Frame Book with .fm files in it. When I save it to PDF
in a new folder, it's fine. When I try to resave, I get the following
message:

>>"Adobe PDF" cannot access the file because it is un use by another
application or process:

G:\\blah\blah\blah\mypdf.pdf

Verify that the file is not open by another application or process and
try again.>>

It's weird because no one else is accessing the file and it's not open
by any other program.

My IT guy looked at the file and said that there was no security info on
it. The only way he could break the link to the PDF so I could delete it
was to reboot the server. I am working on a network drive.

Does this give anyone any ideas? As we get toward release time, I am
constantly rebuilding this PDF. This problem is really hosing me up.


Thank you,





Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

nanometrics

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

* [EMAIL PROTECTED]  .com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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RE: Template for a single book?

2007-01-27 Thread Matt Sullivan
I imagine you'll need a template for the smaller sized book to maintain
consistency across chapters, so just import para tags(for example)into the
standalone book's template when you have a change that applies to all books.
As long as your naming conventions are consistent, the Page Layout option is
the only difference between the 2 template files.

I disagree somewhat with your plan to import from any chapter into all
others. I find that this tends to clutter catalogs with inadvertent para
tags and color definitions that can be irritating to clear. My rule of thumb
is to only import from, never into a template file.

But then, of course, I just recommended doing just that above...
Everything in moderation, including moderation!

 

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An Adobe Authorized Training Center

www.grafixtraining.com

888 882-2819 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gutierrez, Anita
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:20 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Template for a single book?


Hi all,

My group maintains about 50 manuals, all but one of which are 8.5 x 11.
The one exception is a 7 x 9 book that is unlikely ever to be converted
to the standard size (for reasons out of my control).  The chances that
we will ever have another 7 x 9 book are virtually zero.

So my question to the experts is: If you were in my shoes, would you
maintain a separate 7 x 9 template file for this single book?  Or would
you allow the book to exist as its own template and not maintain a
separate file?  

I can't think of any compelling reasons to do it one way or the other.
My logic is that if styles need to change, we would have to be equally
disciplined about applying the new styles to all chapters of the book
whether they came from an outside file or a file within the book.
Having a separate template file would not inherently make it more likely
that we would stay consistent.  The same is true if we change the 8.5 x
11 template: we'd have to make any corresponding changes manually to the
7 x 9 template, whether it's to a separate file or to a file in the
book.  So for that reason I'm leaning towards not maintaining a separate
template file.

Is my logic flawed? Is there something else I should consider?

Thanks for any wisdom.

Anita Gutierrez
Sage Software

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Weird Frame to PDF problem

2007-01-27 Thread John Sgammato
I work with Frame over a network every day. I produce a number of books using 
hundreds of files, and none of them are on my local machine. FrameMaker is on 
my local machine, and everything else is on the network. I have done this for 
years without incident. 
Frame has often had trouble with networks, but to say it has "never worked" 
over a network is hyperbole that may cause Gillian to miss a more important 
problem. 



From: framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata@lists.frameusers.com on behalf of 
Jeremy H. Griffith
Sent: Fri 1/26/2007 9:20 PM
To: Gillian Flato
Cc: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Weird Frame to PDF problem



On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:47:12 -0800, "Gillian Flato" 
wrote:

>I am working on a network drive.

And there you have it.

>Does this give anyone any ideas? As we get toward release time, I am
>constantly rebuilding this PDF. This problem is really hosing me up.

Frame has *never* worked properly with network drives.
Sad, considering it was born on UNIX, but true.  Work on
a local drive, then copy the end result to the network.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/
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