SOLVED: Re: Single MIF for FrameMaker book
It turns out that creating a single FM document for all of the files in the book was the best approach. I was able to do this with a FrameScript script, and I now have a happy client. Thanks for all of the suggestions. If anyone else has this need, please let me know. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com So, in reality, the *only* way to create this single MIF is to first solve the problem of creating a single FM document for all the files in the book. If that can't be done, or is considered too cumbersome, then the single MIF file cannot be created either. It's really that simple since both formats are simply two representations of the same underlying data structures. You're absolutely right. It would be best created using Frame. But it would be a very, very expensive Bad Idea. If the customer still insists on this impossible dream, I'd send them elsewhere. Anywhere else. ;-) -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.omsys.com/ ** To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** with unsubscribe framers (no quotes) in the body. ** ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
ANN: Excel To FrameMaker
Hello Framers, I have had considerable sucess using FrameScript to import Excel data into FrameMaker. Here is a workflow example: 1) Put the insertion point in a paragraph. 2) Choose FrameScript Import Table. You will be prompted for a spreadsheet file (*.xls). 3) You will be prompted with a list of all the worksheets in the spreadsheet. Select the one you want to insert. The data is inserted in a fully-formatted FrameMaker table. You can continue to edit and update the data in Excel. To update the corresponding FrameMaker tables, you choose FrameScript Update Tables and all of the tables are updated with the latest spreadsheet data. This is only one example of what can be done; the process can be automated further. If you have any interest in an Excel to FrameMaker workflow, please contact me offlist with your specific requirements. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE. Don't install Frame 8 If You PDF Your Books
Hi Valerie -- You're right, I'm happy to say. Thanks very much for setting me on the right path. I'm also happy to say that it wasn't me who was wrong but my Adobe Tech Support Technician. He specifically told me there is no fix for this and that I have no alternative but to go back to Frame 7.1. But before I resorted to reinstalling 7.1 I got your post and went into the Print Book PDF Setup dialog Tags tab. I selected the Generate Tagged PDF option and set up the Include Paragraphs list to match my Bookmarks paragraph list. I don't actually know what this function is about, but it resulted in generating a postscript file for my book which Distiller could successfully distill. All cross-refs in the book's PDF file seem to work now. Previous to selecting Generate Tagged PDF, all I got from my attempts to distill the PostScript from a full book was an error text message -- no PDF file. PDFing my individual chapter files was working. But with no way to PDF my full book, I was stuck. I have filed two Online Support requests with Adobe, and received no replies to date. One is a week old and the promised response time is 24 hours. So, the moral of my story is: Frame 8 is damaged. Adobe Tech Support is broken. Tony Wrong! FrameMaker 8 DOES make PDFs with cross-references. What you need to do is to create the Acrobat settings to Generate Tagged PDF. Until Adobe creates a patch, to generate PDF in 8, you must check Yes in the Generate Acrobat Data PDF Setup... Links Generate Tagged PDF section of the File Print Book window. This a known bug. Val -- Valerie Lipow [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/14/07, Tony Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a critical bug in Frame 8, which I just spent an afternoon and morning tracking down on my own and with some questionable help from Adobe Tech Support (30 min. phone wait once they put me in the queue). Frame 8 cannot currently create a PDF file for an entire book if there are cross-references within the document. PDFing works chapter by chapter, but not for an entire book. The tech support guy I just got off the phone with, after some asking around while I held for another 10 minutes, discovered that this is the current situation and there's no workaround. (Why he did not already know I don't know.) So Frame 8 is useless for PDFing any books that contains cross-refs -- e.g. all the books my group publishes. I've unistalled 7.1 already and now have to reinstall -- and save my Frame 8 files to Frame 7. I await the patch that fixes this but the Adobe tech would not predict when that would be. On top of that, there is Nothing posted on this in the Adobe Support site. Adobe is officially too big. They've become MicroSoft. References 1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame and re-use
I guess what I'm asking about is ease of use John. I'm looking at apps like Author-it that seem to be more friendly to drag and drop composition, and I'm wondering which way to go. These are people to whom Word is about as painful as it gets. JW On 9/14/07, John Posada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or do they need to know how to use conditional text and dig into the program to be able to use it effectively? Now, THERE's a concept...users that need to know how to use the application. The NERVE of the application. Frame supports it just fine. The problem is, you want untrained users to perform an action that requires some training and process understanding. John Posada Senior Technical Writer They say everyone needs goals. Mine is to live forever. So far, so good. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Don't Iinstall Frame 8 If You PDF Your Books
Thank you Valerie! How did you find out what the workaround was? We just ordered FM 8 for the whole department based on my recommendation. My boss would not have been too happy if we could not PDF a book. Oddly enough, though I am pretty sure I PDF a book in the beta version. I wonder what they did that caused the bug in the released version I'd be willing to bet they have a patch out soon. Cheers, Diane === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:15 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Don't Iinstall Frame 8 If You PDF Your Books Wrong! FrameMaker 8 DOES make PDFs with cross-references. What you need to do is to create the Acrobat settings to Generate Tagged PDF. Until Adobe creates a patch, to generate PDF in 8, you must check Yes in the Generate Acrobat Data PDF Setup... Links G enerate Tagged PDF section of the File Print Book window. This a known bug. Val -- Valerie Lipow [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/14/07, Tony Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's a critical bug in Frame 8, which I just spent an afternoon and morning tracking down on my own and with some questionable help from Adobe Tech Support (30 min. phone wait once they put me in the queue). Frame 8 cannot currently create a PDF file for an entire book if there are cross-references within the document. PDFing works chapter by chapter, but not for an entire book. The tech support guy I just got off the phone with, after some asking around while I held for another 10 minutes, discovered that this is the current situation and there's no workaround. (Why he did not already know I don't know.) So Frame 8 is useless for PDFing any books that contains cross-refs -- e.g. all the books my group publishes. I've unistalled 7.1 already and now have to reinstall -- and save my Frame 8 files to Frame 7. I await the patch that fixes this but the Adobe tech would not predict when that would be. On top of that, there is Nothing posted on this in the Adobe Support site. Adobe is officially too big. They've become MicroSoft. -- ~~ Tony Marek Technical Publications Manager PDF Solution, Inc. 333 West San Carlos Street, Suite 700 San Jose, CA phone: 408.283.5636 fax: 408.280.7915 [1]www.pdf.com sources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
SOLVED: Re: Single MIF for FrameMaker book
It turns out that creating a single FM document for all of the files in the book was the best approach. I was able to do this with a FrameScript script, and I now have a happy client. Thanks for all of the suggestions. If anyone else has this need, please let me know. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com >>So, in reality, the *only* way to create this single MIF is to first >>solve the problem of creating a single FM document for all the files >>in the book. If that can't be done, or is considered too cumbersome, >>then the single MIF file cannot be created either. It's really that >>simple since both formats are simply two representations of the same >>underlying data structures. > > You're absolutely right. It would be best created using > Frame. But it would be a very, very expensive Bad Idea. > > If the customer still insists on this impossible dream, > I'd send them elsewhere. Anywhere else. ;-) > > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. >http://www.omsys.com/ > > ** To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo at omsys.com ** > ** with "unsubscribe framers" (no quotes) in the body. ** >
ANN: Excel To FrameMaker
Hello Framers, I have had considerable sucess using FrameScript to import Excel data into FrameMaker. Here is a workflow example: 1) Put the insertion point in a paragraph. 2) Choose FrameScript > Import Table. You will be prompted for a spreadsheet file (*.xls). 3) You will be prompted with a list of all the worksheets in the spreadsheet. Select the one you want to insert. The data is inserted in a fully-formatted FrameMaker table. You can continue to edit and update the data in Excel. To update the corresponding FrameMaker tables, you choose FrameScript > Update Tables and all of the tables are updated with the latest spreadsheet data. This is only one example of what can be done; the process can be automated further. If you have any interest in an Excel to FrameMaker workflow, please contact me offlist with your specific requirements. Thank you very much. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com
FW: Don't Iinstall Frame 8 If You PDF Your Books
Hello Framers, Has anyone else seen this bug? I was on the FM8 Beta test team and I don't remember seeing it. Nobody else on the test team reported it that I know of? Tony, did the FM support guy give you a case number or a bug number? Also, why did you uninstall FM7.1? You can have more than one verison of FM on your system. Thanks Diane -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Tony Marek Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:32 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Don't Iinstall Frame 8 If You PDF Your Books There's a critical bug in Frame 8, which I just spent an afternoon and morning tracking down on my own and with some questionable help from Adobe Tech Support (30 min. phone wait once they put me in the queue). Frame 8 cannot currently create a PDF file for an entire book if there are cross-references within the document. PDFing works chapter by chapter, but not for an entire book. The tech support guy I just got off the phone with, after some asking around while I held for another 10 minutes, discovered that this is the current situation and there's no workaround. (Why he did not already know I don't know.) So Frame 8 is useless for PDFing any books that contains cross-refs -- e.g. all the books my group publishes. I've unistalled 7.1 already and now have to reinstall -- and save my Frame 8 files to Frame 7. I await the patch that fixes this but the Adobe tech would not predict when that would be. On top of that, there is Nothing posted on this in the Adobe Support site. Adobe is officially too big. They've become MicroSoft. -- ~~ Tony Marek Technical Publications Manager PDF Solution, Inc. 333 West San Carlos Street, Suite 700 San Jose, CA phone: 408.283.5636 fax: 408.280.7915 [1]www.pdf.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail contains information that may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the intended recipient), you are prohibited from reviewing, using, copying, forwarding, keeping, or disclosing to anyone other than PDF Solutions, Inc. this e-mail or any information in the e-mail (including any attachment). If you have received this e-mail in error, please send a reply e-mail only to the sender ([2]tony.marek at pdf.com) (deleting the original message body from the reply), and please delete this message from your system. My apologies for the inconvenience, and thank you in advance for your cooperation. References 1. http://www.pdf.com/ 2. mailto:tony.marek at pdf.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Don't Iinstall Frame 8 If You PDF Your Books
Thank you Valerie! How did you find out what the workaround was? We just ordered FM 8 for the whole department based on my recommendation. My boss would not have been too happy if we could not PDF a book. Oddly enough, though I am pretty sure I PDF a book in the beta version. I wonder what they did that caused the bug in the released version I'd be willing to bet they have a patch out soon. Cheers, Diane === -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Valerie Lipow Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:15 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Cc: Ttony.marek at pdf.com Subject: Re: Don't Iinstall Frame 8 If You PDF Your Books Wrong! FrameMaker 8 DOES make PDFs with cross-references. What you need to do is to create the Acrobat settings to Generate Tagged PDF. Until Adobe creates a patch, to generate PDF in 8, you must check Yes in the Generate Acrobat Data > PDF Setup... > Links >G enerate Tagged PDF section of the File > Print Book window. This a known bug. Val -- Valerie Lipow vallipow at gmail.com On 9/14/07, Tony Marek wrote: > > >There's a critical bug in Frame 8, which I just spent an afternoon and >morning tracking down on my own and with some questionable help from >Adobe Tech Support (30 min. phone wait once they put me in the >queue). Frame 8 cannot currently create a PDF file for an entire book >if there are cross-references within the document. PDFing works >chapter by chapter, but not for an entire book. The tech support guy I >just got off the phone with, after some asking around while I held for >another 10 minutes, discovered that this is the current situation and >there's no workaround. (Why he did not already know I don't know.) So >Frame 8 is useless for PDFing any books that contains cross-refs -- >e.g. all the books my group publishes. >I've unistalled 7.1 already and now have to reinstall -- and save my >Frame 8 files to Frame 7. >I await the patch that fixes this but the Adobe tech would not predict >when that would be. On top of that, there is Nothing posted on this >in the Adobe Support site. >Adobe is officially too big. They've become MicroSoft. > >-- > >~~ > >Tony Marek > >Technical Publications Manager > >PDF Solution, Inc. > >333 West San Carlos Street, Suite 700 > >San Jose, CA > >phone: 408.283.5636 > >fax: 408.280.7915 > >[1]www.pdf.com > sources and info.
