Framescript or plug-in to merge all files in book to 1 FM file?
Hi FrameUsers I'm looking for a Framescript or plug-in to merge all files in a FM book to a single FM file. Thanks. -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion • T: +32 494 12 01 89 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framescript or plug-in to merge all files in book to 1 FM file?
Hi, Yves: I seem to recall something like that is available, possibly free, from omsys.com. You may have to export all to MIF first. dtptools.com has a free FM2MIF batch tool that can be helpful for the above step. HTH Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi FrameUsers I'm looking for a Framescript or plug-in to merge all files in a FM book to a single FM file. Thanks. -- Yves Barbion • Managing Director • Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu • skype: yves.barbion • T: +32 494 12 01 89 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Replace on part of a wildcards search
I'm not sure this is helpful at this time, but Using FrameMaker 5 has a Chapter 8 titled Searching. The Index for this manual has a reference from searching to See 'finding'. Finding has a long list of search tools and methods, and also cross references 'changing' and 'navigating'. I'm wondering if some of these old terms may hide in the current help files? Dave Starr Sr. Technical Information Developer | Architecture and Software Phone: 952.942.3617 Email: dast...@ra.rockwell.com Rockwell Automation | 10120 West 76th St, Suite B | Eden Prairie, MN 55344 David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com Sent by: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 10/05/2009 04:02 PM To 'Matt Sullivan' m...@grafixtraining.com, pe...@knowhowpro.com, 'Les Smalley' l_c_smal...@yahoo.com cc framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject RE: Replace on part of a wildcards search You are quite right. The Frame 5.5 User Guide has about eight pages, starting on page 55, on performing searches. There is a half-page table on page 57, the same one that is in the referenced handout, on Using Wildcards in a Search. Somewhere I should have a copy of the Frame 4 User Guide, which probably goes into even more depth. Need to do some more digging. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@grafixtraining.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:53 PM To: 'David Spreadbury'; pe...@knowhowpro.com; 'Les Smalley' Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Replace on part of a wildcards search Part of what you may be looking for was in an FM 5.5 handout I got as part of the FrameMaker Classroom in a Box product. I've posted the PDF here http://www.grafixtraining.com/reference/ And the information on wildcard searches is in Handout 6-3 on page 12 The info is (obviously) from FM 5.5, but still quite current. -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training m...@grafixtraining.com www.grafixtraining.com office 714 960-6840 cell txt 714 585-2335 sms message skype: mattrsullivan twitter: mattrsullivan linkedin facebook -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Spreadbury Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:54 AM To: pe...@knowhowpro.com; 'Les Smalley' Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Replace on part of a wildcards search Searching for framemaker grep brought what might be a source for using GREP with Adobe products. Apparently it is not limited to FrameMaker. Try reading what is available at http://carijansen.com/. If this doesn't help, maybe contacting the author, Cari Jansen, in Perth, Australia, would provide the answers. HTH David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:32 PM To: Les Smalley Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Replace on part of a wildcards search FrameMaker has long a GREP-like search feature, in FM, and some documentation for it. However, the replace wasn't GREP-like. But worse yet, there doesn't seem to be a trace of the documentation for it in FM9. I've forgotten how to use it, and without the doc, I'm not sure that my couple of quick tests were failing because the feature's gone from the product as well as the doc, or if I just didn't enter the search string correctly. I don't have an earlier FrameMaker installed, and don't have the earlier docs handy. Perhaps someone on the list can respond. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Les Smalley l_c_smal...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Avi, The asterisk ( * ) wildcard matches any character EXCEPT spaces or punctuation; the wildcard character to use for those is the verticle bar ( | ) but also remember that the tab character is \t (no quotes) ... Regardless, unfortunately you can't do it with FrameMaker as you describe attempting. The search tool removes everything matched by the search string and inserts the replace string in its place, so you will also lose the Command string. It is a great disappointment that a real GREP search capability (or even more general awk text processing features) has never been implemented in FM. If you search for just Unit32 and replace that with SHORT_ID you can do what you want by careful use of the 'Change Find' or just 'Find' buttons (and I understand how tedious and error-prone this can be.) It may be posible to do this via scripting (e.g. FrameScript, etc.; I'm sure others more knowledgeable will chime in) or possibly by saving to MIF and using a text based editor on that, then reopening it in FM to verify the results. FWIW, grep and awk (and a number of other unix tools) are available as utilities for Windows and any search engine can point you to places to get them. - Les
Re: Hypertext Links not Working
Heinlein, Roberta wrote: I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly. We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs but it still doesn't work. A little more info might help. What is the nature of the links, e.g., -- simple x-ref's within the same file -- cross-file within the same book -- cross-file to other documents not in the book -- links to URLs -- mailto: links -- other hypertext commands? Do ALL links fail, or if only some, what's different? Are you following the identical procedure as before when creating the PDF files? Using Print to Adobe PDF vs. Save As PDF? All files open, including book files of cross-ref targets outside this book? (If you have cross-file links, the nature of the path information saved in the PDF will be different depending on whether or not the target's book file is open at the time.) Is your folder structure the same as before? best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge. --Anatole France ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame Postscript Output Problem
One thing I did not see mentioned in this recent thread is the possiblity of file name issues. Over the years I have seen hundreds of frustrated users trying desperately to created postscript or pdf and getting nothing but cryptic (or no) messages and failure. In every case the problem was their file name. Some insist on using special characters and writing novels in their file names, which is against best practices but often works in Windows most of the time. Printers and pdf all use Postscript code, which goes back to dos days, and which is therefore is less tolerant of these bad names than Windows in general. The first thing you should try is renaming the file to the old 8.3 standard with no special characters. Even in this day I still see this issue a couple of times a year. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framescript or plug-in to merge all files in book to 1 FM file?
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:40:11 -0500, Peter Gold pe...@knowhowpro.com wrote: I seem to recall something like that is available, possibly free, from omsys.com. You may have to export all to MIF first. Sorry, we don't do that. What you may be thinking of is exporting a Frame book to a single Word file. We think that's a Very Bad Idea (for most books, the file would be too large for Word to open), but it is possible. And actually, the same method could be used for what Yves wants; it's just not automatic. The basic idea is to create a new Frame document, then import each document in the book into it by reference as an inset. For Word, you then convert that wrapper document; but you could just as well use it in Frame. If you wanted, you could convert all the insets to text in Frame too, so that the wrapper file had no dependencies on the original files. Just double-click in any inset, and in the dialog choose All Text Insets and click Convert. Note that there can be problems with this whole idea, in addition to the obvious size one. For example, the numbering may not be the same; the book file controls the chapter numbering, and if it is gone, the numbering will revert to whatever the wrapper chapter is set up for. So every chapter may be numbered 1... A Framescript to do the basic combining would be simple. It's the cleanup that can't really be automated. ;-) HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Framescript or plug-in to merge all files in book to 1 FM file?
Thanks for the correction, Jeremy. I seemed to recall it wrong! I didn't see a reason or purpose the original poster had in mind to combine the book component files into a single FrameMaker file. If we knew more about the goal, perhaps we could suggest other workable solutions. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith jer...@omsys.com wrote: On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:40:11 -0500, Peter Gold pe...@knowhowpro.com wrote: I seem to recall something like that is available, possibly free, from omsys.com. You may have to export all to MIF first. Sorry, we don't do that. What you may be thinking of is exporting a Frame book to a single Word file. We think that's a Very Bad Idea (for most books, the file would be too large for Word to open), but it is possible. And actually, the same method could be used for what Yves wants; it's just not automatic. The basic idea is to create a new Frame document, then import each document in the book into it by reference as an inset. For Word, you then convert that wrapper document; but you could just as well use it in Frame. If you wanted, you could convert all the insets to text in Frame too, so that the wrapper file had no dependencies on the original files. Just double-click in any inset, and in the dialog choose All Text Insets and click Convert. Note that there can be problems with this whole idea, in addition to the obvious size one. For example, the numbering may not be the same; the book file controls the chapter numbering, and if it is gone, the numbering will revert to whatever the wrapper chapter is set up for. So every chapter may be numbered 1... A Framescript to do the basic combining would be simple. It's the cleanup that can't really be automated. ;-) HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Framescript or plug-in to "merge" all files in book to 1 FM file?
Hi FrameUsers I'm looking for a Framescript or plug-in to "merge" all files in a FM book to a single FM file. Thanks. -- Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor www.scripto.nu ? skype: yves.barbion ? T: +32 494 12 01 89
Framescript or plug-in to "merge" all files in book to 1 FM file?
Hi, Yves: I seem to recall something like that is available, possibly free, from omsys.com. You may have to export all to MIF first. dtptools.com has a free FM2MIF batch tool that can be helpful for the above step. HTH Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Yves Barbion wrote: > Hi FrameUsers > > I'm looking for a Framescript or plug-in to "merge" all files in a FM book > to a single FM file. > > Thanks. > > -- > Yves Barbion ? Managing Director ? Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor > www.scripto.nu ?? skype: yves.barbion ?? T: +32 494 12 01 89
Replace on part of a wildcards search
I'm not sure this is helpful at this time, but Using FrameMaker 5 has a Chapter 8 titled Searching. The Index for this manual has a reference from searching to See 'finding'. Finding has a long list of search tools and methods, and also cross references 'changing' and 'navigating'. I'm wondering if some of these old terms may hide in the current help files? Dave Starr Sr. Technical Information Developer | Architecture and Software Phone: 952.942.3617 Email: dastarr at ra.rockwell.com Rockwell Automation | 10120 West 76th St, Suite B | Eden Prairie, MN 55344 "David Spreadbury" Sent by: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 10/05/2009 04:02 PM To "'Matt Sullivan'" , , "'Les Smalley'" cc framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject RE: Replace on part of a wildcards search You are quite right. The Frame 5.5 User Guide has about eight pages, starting on page 55, on performing searches. There is a half-page table on page 57, the same one that is in the referenced handout, on Using Wildcards in a Search. Somewhere I should have a copy of the Frame 4 User Guide, which probably goes into even more depth. Need to do some more digging. David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@grafixtraining.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:53 PM To: 'David Spreadbury'; peter at knowhowpro.com; 'Les Smalley' Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Replace on part of a wildcards search Part of what you may be looking for was in an FM 5.5 handout I got as part of the FrameMaker Classroom in a Box product. I've posted the PDF here http://www.grafixtraining.com/reference/ And the information on wildcard searches is in Handout 6-3 on page 12 The info is (obviously) from FM 5.5, but still quite current. -Matt Matt Sullivan GRAFIX Training matt at grafixtraining.com www.grafixtraining.com office 714 960-6840 cell & txt 714 585-2335 sms message skype: mattrsullivan twitter: mattrsullivan linkedin facebook -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Spreadbury Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 11:54 AM To: peter at knowhowpro.com; 'Les Smalley' Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Replace on part of a wildcards search Searching for "framemaker grep" brought what might be a source for using GREP with Adobe products. Apparently it is not limited to FrameMaker. Try reading what is available at http://carijansen.com/. If this doesn't help, maybe contacting the author, Cari Jansen, in Perth, Australia, would provide the answers. HTH David Spreadbury Sr. Technical Writer -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 1:32 PM To: Les Smalley Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Replace on part of a wildcards search FrameMaker has long a GREP-like search feature, in FM, and some documentation for it. However, the replace wasn't GREP-like. But worse yet, there doesn't seem to be a trace of the documentation for it in FM9. I've forgotten how to use it, and without the doc, I'm not sure that my couple of quick tests were failing because the feature's gone from the product as well as the doc, or if I just didn't enter the search string correctly. I don't have an earlier FrameMaker installed, and don't have the earlier docs handy. Perhaps someone on the list can respond. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Les Smalley wrote: > Hi Avi, > > The asterisk ( * ) wildcard matches any character EXCEPT spaces or > punctuation; the wildcard character to use for those is the verticle > bar ( | ) but also remember that the tab character is "\t" (no > quotes) ... > > Regardless, unfortunately you can't do it with FrameMaker as you > describe attempting. The search tool removes everything matched by > the search string and inserts the replace string in its place, so you > will also lose the "Command" string. It is a great disappointment > that a real GREP search capability (or even more general awk text > processing features) has never been implemented in FM. > > If > you search for just "Unit32" and replace that with "SHORT_ID" you can > do what you want by careful use of the 'Change & Find' or just 'Find' > buttons (and I understand how tedious and error-prone this can > be.) > > It may be posible to do this via scripting (e.g. > FrameScript, etc.; I'm sure others more knowledgeable will chime in) > or possibly by saving to MIF and using a text based editor on that, > then reopening it in FM to verify the results. > > FWIW, grep and awk > (and a number of other unix tools) are available as utilities for > Windows and any search engine can point you to places to get them. > > - Les > > --- On Mon, 10/5/09,
Hypertext Links not Working
Heinlein, Roberta wrote: > I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create > hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document > to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are > moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly. > > We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until > it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want > to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct > this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All > Paragraphs but it still doesn't work. > A little more info might help. What is the nature of the links, e.g., -- simple x-ref's within the same file -- cross-file within the same book -- cross-file to other documents not in the book -- links to URLs -- mailto: links -- other hypertext commands? Do ALL links fail, or if only some, what's different? Are you following the identical procedure as before when creating the PDF files? Using Print to Adobe PDF vs. Save As PDF? All files open, including book files of cross-ref targets outside this book? (If you have cross-file links, the nature of the path information saved in the PDF will be different depending on whether or not the target's book file is open at the time.) Is your folder structure the same as before? best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge." --Anatole France
Frame Postscript Output Problem
One thing I did not see mentioned in this recent thread is the possiblity of file name issues. Over the years I have seen hundreds of frustrated users trying desperately to created postscript or pdf and getting nothing but cryptic (or no) messages and failure. In every case the problem was their file name. Some insist on using special characters and writing novels in their file names, which is against "best practices" but often works in Windows most of the time. Printers and pdf all use Postscript code, which goes back to dos days, and which is therefore is less tolerant of these "bad" names than Windows in general. The first thing you should try is renaming the file to the old 8.3 standard with no special characters. Even in this day I still see this issue a couple of times a year.
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Framescript or plug-in to "merge" all files in book to 1 FM file?
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:40:11 -0500, Peter Gold wrote: >I seem to recall something like that is available, possibly >free, from omsys.com. You may have to export all to MIF first. Sorry, we don't do that. What you may be thinking of is exporting a Frame book to a single Word file. We think that's a Very Bad Idea (for most books, the file would be too large for Word to open), but it is possible. And actually, the same method could be used for what Yves wants; it's just not automatic. The basic idea is to create a new Frame document, then import each document in the book into it by reference as an inset. For Word, you then convert that "wrapper" document; but you could just as well use it in Frame. If you wanted, you could convert all the insets to text in Frame too, so that the wrapper file had no dependencies on the original files. Just double-click in any inset, and in the dialog choose All Text Insets and click Convert. Note that there can be problems with this whole idea, in addition to the obvious size one. For example, the numbering may not be the same; the book file controls the chapter numbering, and if it is gone, the numbering will revert to whatever the wrapper chapter is set up for. So every chapter may be numbered "1"... A Framescript to do the basic combining would be simple. It's the cleanup that can't really be automated. ;-) HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. http://www.omsys.com/
Framescript or plug-in to "merge" all files in book to 1 FM file?
Thanks for the correction, Jeremy. I seemed to recall it wrong! I didn't see a reason or purpose the original poster had in mind to combine the book component files into a single FrameMaker file. If we knew more about the goal, perhaps we could suggest other workable solutions. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: > On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:40:11 -0500, Peter Gold > wrote: > >>I seem to recall something like that is available, possibly >>free, from omsys.com. You may have to export all to MIF first. > > Sorry, we don't do that. ?What you may be thinking of > is exporting a Frame book to a single Word file. ?We > think that's a Very Bad Idea (for most books, the file > would be too large for Word to open), but it is possible. > And actually, the same method could be used for what > Yves wants; it's just not automatic. > > The basic idea is to create a new Frame document, then > import each document in the book into it by reference > as an inset. ?For Word, you then convert that "wrapper" > document; but you could just as well use it in Frame. > > If you wanted, you could convert all the insets to text > in Frame too, so that the wrapper file had no dependencies > on the original files. ?Just double-click in any inset, > and in the dialog choose All Text Insets and click Convert. > > Note that there can be problems with this whole idea, > in addition to the obvious size one. ?For example, the > numbering may not be the same; the book file controls > the chapter numbering, and if it is gone, the numbering > will revert to whatever the wrapper chapter is set up for. > So every chapter may be numbered "1"... > > A Framescript to do the basic combining would be simple. > It's the cleanup that can't really be automated. ?;-) > > HTH! > > -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. > ? ?http://www.omsys.com/
