RE: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?

2014-12-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
Hi, Hedley.

Once a version 7.2 license has been used for an upgrade, it is no longer 
available for sale (or transfer of license) any more – Robert Lauriston is 
right about that.

But, as it happens, I have some 7.2 licenses (and the original Adobe disks) 
which were not upgraded, so can make those available if you want to buy one (or 
more?).

I had posted here about these some time back, but our IT guys were slow in 
figuring out what to do at Adobe to get them transferred, so I could not follow 
up with the person who was interested in purchasing them.

In any case, I can probably find these disks fairly quickly. If you can find 
out from Adobe what you might need from me to make the license transfer happen 
– since these were never used for upgrades – and are interested in getting one 
or two, please let me know.

Z

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Subject: Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of 
FrameMaker?

I was thinking that there may be someone who bought a version, say 9, then did 
not upgrade for a a few years and the ability to upgrade had expired.  If that 
person then bought a later version -- by necessity, not being able to upgrade 
-- it seems to me that they could transfer the licence for the older version, 
say 9, without any difficulties.

By the way, does anybody have a support email address?  I tried to find one but 
kept being sent round in circles, continually being directed back to community 
support, which ain't what's wanted.  I just want to try out the above scenario 
on someone official at Adobe who can give a definitive answer.

I am now living on a pension so cannot afford either the educational or full 
price of a new release.

Regards,
Hedley

On 8 December 2014 at 09:59, Hedley Finger 
mailto:hedley.fin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my 
employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0.

But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0 who 
still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no longer 
upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their 9.0 licence 
(say) and CD to another person?

I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very dodgy, and 
were possibly vehicles for installing viruses.

Regards, Hedley


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Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?

2014-12-07 Thread Hedley Finger 
I was thinking that there may be someone who bought a version, say 9, then
did not upgrade for a a few years and the ability to upgrade had expired.
If that person then bought a later version -- by necessity, not being able
to upgrade -- it seems to me that they could transfer the licence for the
older version, say 9, without any difficulties.

By the way, does anybody have a support email address?  I tried to find one
but kept being sent round in circles, continually being directed back to
community support, which ain't what's wanted.  I just want to try out the
above scenario on someone official at Adobe who can give a definitive
answer.

I am now living on a pension so cannot afford either the educational or
full price of a new release.

Regards,
Hedley

On 8 December 2014 at 09:59, Hedley Finger  wrote:

> FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my
> employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0.
>
> But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0
> who still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no
> longer upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their
> 9.0 licence (say) and CD to another person?
>
> I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very
> dodgy, and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses.
>
> Regards, Hedley
>
>
> --
> 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia
> hedley.fin...@gmail.com
> 
> Telephone 03 9836 4635
> Mobile 0412 461 558
> LinuxCounter.net registered computer 576484
>



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Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?

2014-12-07 Thread Scott Prentice 
Once a license has been upgraded, it's no longer able to be transferred, 
and would not be a legal license.


If you can find a "new in box" or better yet "unopened" .. I'd think 
that's probably fine. I doubt seriously that anyone is using FrameMaker 
a a lure to install viruses. Not likely worth the effort.


I'd avoid FM9 .. but FM8, 10, or 11 should be good.

...scott

On 12/7/14 2:59 PM, Hedley Finger wrote:
FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged 
to my employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to 
pay for 12.0.


But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 
12.0 who still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which 
is no longer upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to 
transfer their 9.0 licence (say) and CD to another person?


I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very 
dodgy, and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses.


Regards, Hedley


--
1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia
hedley.fin...@gmail.com 


Telephone 03 9836 4635
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Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?

2014-12-07 Thread Robert Lauriston 
Adobe's KB article on license transfers:

http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/transfer-product-license.html

On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Hedley Finger  wrote:
> FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my
> employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0.
>
> But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0 who
> still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no longer
> upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their 9.0
> licence (say) and CD to another person?
>
> I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very dodgy,
> and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses.
>
> Regards, Hedley
>
>
> --
> 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia
> hedley.fin...@gmail.com
> Telephone 03 9836 4635
> Mobile 0412 461 558
> LinuxCounter.net registered computer 576484
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What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?

2014-12-07 Thread Hedley Finger 
FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my
employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0.

But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0
who still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no
longer upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their
9.0 licence (say) and CD to another person?

I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very dodgy,
and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses.

Regards, Hedley


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Can FrameMaker 12 run under Wine (on Ubuntu distribution of Linux)?

2014-12-07 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
Has anyone successfully done the above?

i.e., installed FrameMaker and Acrobat using Wine under Ubuntu? And made it 
work pretty much cleanly?

Z
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