RE: OCR (was: Converting FM to Word and previously: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

[Kristina McCook]

OmniPage 15 is about the best OCR program out there, and it is nearly
perfect., if you're going to OCR anything. 

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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:37 PM
To: David Levy; Framers List; Free Framers List
Subject: Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

David Levy wrote: 
 
 I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in Word, I 
 build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program to convert it to 
 Word.  The results are better than FM's Save as feature.

shudder / OCR??? The PDF contains *real words*, not an *image* of the
words! Why on earth would you want to treat it as an image? 
 
 Close my eyes, send it on, and I've never heard back from a client. 

No proofing? You do realize that OCR isn't perfect, don't you? 
 
 Anyone have other suggestions for getting from FM to Word?

By far the best method is Mif2Go
(http://www.omsys.com/dcl/mif2go_main.htm). Acrobat's Save As RTF is OK,
too. For that matter FM's Save As should work better than OCR, assuming you
have an appropriate Word template that uses styles with the same names as
the FM formats. 

Heck, I'd rather save the whole thing as plain text, dump it into a Word
doc, and retag it than use OCR. 

shudder / 

Richard 


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OCR (was: Converting FM to Word and previously: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

[Kristina McCook]

OmniPage 15 is about the best OCR program out there, and it is nearly
perfect., if you're going to OCR anything. 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+convextech=alltel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+convextech=alltel.net at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Combs, Richard
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:37 PM
To: David Levy; Framers List; Free Framers List
Subject: Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

David Levy wrote: 

> I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in Word, I 
> build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program to convert it to 
> Word.  The results are better than FM's "Save as" feature.

 OCR??? The PDF contains *real words*, not an *image* of the
words! Why on earth would you want to treat it as an image? 

> Close my eyes, send it on, and I've never heard back from a client. 

No proofing? You do realize that OCR isn't perfect, don't you? 

> Anyone have other suggestions for getting from FM to Word?

By far the best method is Mif2Go
(http://www.omsys.com/dcl/mif2go_main.htm). Acrobat's Save As RTF is OK,
too. For that matter FM's Save As should work better than OCR, assuming you
have an appropriate Word template that uses styles with the same names as
the FM formats. 

Heck, I'd rather save the whole thing as plain text, dump it into a Word
doc, and retag it than use OCR. 

 

Richard 


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RE: plugin to remap or convert cross-references

[Kristina McCook]

I can vouch for this script, it is works beautifully.  

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Subject: Re: plugin to remap or convert cross-references

Hi Rene,

I have a FrameScript script that does this. Contact me offlist if you are
interested. Thanks.

Rick Quatro
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585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


 Hi All,

 Some time ago, it seems I remember someone discussing a handy little 
 FM plugin that would allow you to remap cross-reference formats en 
 masse, much in the way that SPS Character/Paragraph Tools functions, 
 with a source tag mapped via a table to a destination tag. It seems in 
 the discussion that mention was made of being able to use the same 
 tools to remap marker types...? However, I've slept since then (albeit 
 very little), and am henceforth unable to recollect any further 
 details of such handy little plugin. :-\  I tried searching the 
 archives and my own stash of FrameUser strings, but I've come up empty
handed.

 Can someone out there please refresh my fuzzy memory?

 Thanks!
 Rene Stephenson

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plugin to remap or convert cross-references

[Kristina McCook]

I can vouch for this script, it is works beautifully.  

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+convextech=alltel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+convextech=alltel.net at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 2:47 PM
To: Rene Stephenson; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: plugin to remap or convert cross-references

Hi Rene,

I have a FrameScript script that does this. Contact me offlist if you are
interested. Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com


> Hi All,
>
> Some time ago, it seems I remember someone discussing a handy little 
> FM plugin that would allow you to remap cross-reference formats en 
> masse, much in the way that SPS Character/Paragraph Tools functions, 
> with a source tag mapped via a table to a destination tag. It seems in 
> the discussion that mention was made of being able to use the same 
> tools to remap marker types...? However, I've slept since then (albeit 
> very little), and am henceforth unable to recollect any further 
> details of such handy little plugin. :-\  I tried searching the 
> archives and my own stash of FrameUser strings, but I've come up empty
handed.
>
> Can someone out there please refresh my fuzzy memory?
>
> Thanks!
> Rene Stephenson

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RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

[Kristina McCook]

 A friend of mine had an E-Machines that crashed on him. It had two Restore
Discs that he said he couldn't use. So I got the box  started working on
it. Turns out the Restore CDs were created by Norton Ghost, they weren't
what I'd call restore discs. And, his HD was not bootable at all. So I
reformatted the HD, then had to install Norton Ghost just to get it to
restore his OS. To top that, the 2nd CD had a cyclic data redundancy error
so I had to use CDCheck to recover that CD  make him another Restore CD.
Never again will I work on another E-Machines POS. 

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Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

Versionitis strikes again!
A rigorous (and repeated) application of QA is the only known pallative
-- there is no cure.
Grant

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From: Daniel Emory
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:56 AM
To: Framers List
Cc: Free Framers List
Subject: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

I was helping a friend who'd just acquired her first computer, an E-Machine
with Windows XP.

I was demonstrating how to get help, and showed how she could type in a
search phrase and get a list of all the help topics containing that phrase.
So, to demonstrate how to properly shut down the computer, I entered the
search phrase Turn Off. Sure enough, all the help topics containing that
phrase appeared, and I selected theTurn Off The Computer topic. Here are
the instructions which appeared under that
topic:

Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in the drop-down list click Shut
Down

The only part of that instruction which is correct is Click Start.

o There is no Shut Down option under Start. It's called Turn Off Computer.

o There is no drop-down list under the Turn Off Computer dialog.
Instead, there are 3 buttons.

o There is no button option under Turn Off Computer called Shut Down
Instead there are three button
options: Stand By, Turn Off, and Restart.

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Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

[Kristina McCook]

 A friend of mine had an E-Machines that crashed on him. It had two Restore
Discs that he said he couldn't use. So I got the box & started working on
it. Turns out the Restore CDs were created by Norton Ghost, they weren't
what I'd call restore discs. And, his HD was not bootable at all. So I
reformatted the HD, then had to install Norton Ghost just to get it to
"restore" his OS. To top that, the 2nd CD had a cyclic data redundancy error
so I had to use CDCheck to recover that CD & make him another "Restore CD".
Never again will I work on another E-Machines POS. 

-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+convextech=alltel@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+convextech=alltel.net at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Grant Hogarth
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:00 PM
To: Framers List
Cc: Free Framers List
Subject: RE: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

Versionitis strikes again!
A rigorous (and repeated) application of QA is the only known pallative
-- there is no cure.
Grant

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Emory
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:56 AM
To: Framers List
Cc: Free Framers List
Subject: OT: Unbelievable On-Line Help Stupidity

I was helping a friend who'd just acquired her first computer, an E-Machine
with Windows XP.

I was demonstrating how to get help, and showed how she could type in a
search phrase and get a list of all the help topics containing that phrase.
So, to demonstrate how to properly shut down the computer, I entered the
search phrase "Turn Off." Sure enough, all the help topics containing that
phrase appeared, and I selected the"Turn Off The Computer" topic. Here are
the instructions which appeared under that
topic:

"Click Start, click Shut Down, and then in the drop-down list click Shut
Down"

The only part of that instruction which is correct is "Click Start."

o There is no Shut Down option under Start. It's called "Turn Off Computer."

o There is no drop-down list under the "Turn Off Computer" dialog.
Instead, there are 3 buttons.

o There is no button option under "Turn Off Computer" called "Shut Down"
Instead there are three button
options: "Stand By", "Turn Off", and "Restart."

Dan Emory & Associates 
FrameMaker/FrameMaker+SGML Document Design & Database Publishing
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RE: Figure numbering

[Kristina McCook]

 It also depends on what kind of book you're doing this on, and the
specification it involves. For instance, I am doing an Illustrated Parts
Breakdown (IPB) right now that is being numbered like #1, but only because
it is a standalone IPB. In some cases, this IPB could be Chapter 7 in an
even bigger book, which would be numbered like #2. 

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Subject: RE: Figure numbering

I do option 1, although I have used option 2 in the past. I don't
particularly like option 3.

You can do option 2 quite easily. Assuming unstructured FM, you develop a
paragraph format for figure titles. The autonumber pattern is

F:Figure $chapnum-n+.\sm

Once you have that set, ensure that Format  Document  Numbering Paragraph
tab is set to restart paragraph numbering with each chapter.

Joe

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The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
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Subject: Figure numbering

How do you guys do figure numbering? 
 
1. Figure 1,2,3
2. Figure 1-1, 1-2, ...2-1, 2-2
3. Figure 1-1...3-10...5-30
 
Currently, the book I am updating does #3. It stops counting at figure
325 and then starts at 1 again. I want to do number 2, so I want the Figure
numbering to start over at the beginning of each chapter. How do I do this?
 
If you guys know of a better method, tell me what you do.
 

Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

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Figure numbering

[Kristina McCook]

 It also depends on what kind of book you're doing this on, and the
specification it involves. For instance, I am doing an Illustrated Parts
Breakdown (IPB) right now that is being numbered like #1, but only because
it is a standalone IPB. In some cases, this IPB could be Chapter 7 in an
even bigger book, which would be numbered like #2. 

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[mailto:framers-bounces+convextech=alltel.net at lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Joe Malin
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:15 PM
To: Gillian Flato; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Figure numbering

I do option 1, although I have used option 2 in the past. I don't
particularly like option 3.

You can do option 2 quite easily. Assuming unstructured FM, you develop a
paragraph format for figure titles. The autonumber pattern is

F:Figure <$chapnum>-.\sm

Once you have that set, ensure that Format > Document > Numbering Paragraph
tab is set to restart paragraph numbering with each chapter.

Joe

Joe Malin
Technical Writer
(408)625-1623
jmalin at tuvox.com
www.tuvox.com
The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not
necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc.

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[mailto:framers-bounces+jmalin=tuvox.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
Gillian Flato
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:36 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Figure numbering

How do you guys do figure numbering? 

1. Figure 1,2,3
2. Figure 1-1, 1-2, ...2-1, 2-2
3. Figure 1-1...3-10...5-30

Currently, the book I am updating does #3. It stops counting at figure
325 and then starts at 1 again. I want to do number 2, so I want the Figure
numbering to start over at the beginning of each chapter. How do I do this?

If you guys know of a better method, tell me what you do.


Thanks,

Gillian Flato

Technical Writer (Software)

NANOmetrics, Inc.

1550 Buckeye Dr.

Milpitas, CA. 95035

(408.435.9600 x 316

7  408.232.5911

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RE: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

[Kristina McCook]

Press Ctrl+B  Ctrl+I 

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Subject: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please reply
off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week. Thanks for your time!

A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.

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I'm lazy

[Kristina McCook]

I use Outlook 2003 & Outlook Express. The hyperlinks come out whether the
http:// is there or not. This might be a setting on your end, John. 


"...when you enter a URL that starts with www, in most cases, it appears as
plain text. However, if you precede it with http://, it will appear as a
live hyperlink..."

POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

[Kristina McCook]

Press Ctrl+B & Ctrl+I 

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:30 PM
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Subject: POLL: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

This came up as a possible style standards issue here. Please reply
off-list, and I'll summarize the results next week. Thanks for your time!

A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I.
B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog.

_
Regards,
John Wilcox, Technical Writer
Zetron, Redmond




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