Suggestions: How to deliver localized online help... DITA/Structure/XML?
Hello Framers! We currently deliver our user guide in HTML as the online help for our application. When the user clicks on the Help link/button/etc., the correct section of the rather lengthy user guide is displayed. We do this via WebWorks and TopicAlias markers, delivering WebWorks Help -- pretty standard stuff. The issue I'll soon be facing is the question of how to deliver a subset of the user guides for localization. Since we currently use the whole user guide as the online help, the translation costs/time/etc. to localize the entire set would be prohibitive. What I've been considering is trying to deliver a subset of the user guides as online help for localized versions of the application. This subset would cover the UI, but leave the more advanced subjects in the English Only user guide. I have a couple of questions, though. Does this approach make any sense? Would this be a good case for DITA? Am I overlooking a more simple/elegant solution? Obviously I want to avoid duplicating content where I can. Does anyone else here have experience with a similar project? Because our current online help is actually two separate guides (User and Advanced guides) together in a single WebWorks Help presentation, I considered adding a third guide, this one to be localized, and then a separate mapping of TopicAlias Markers for localized versions. This is probably the route I'd take, if I end up going with some sort of structured solution (so that I could take advantage of a single source, generating the three books). Your thoughts? -g- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Suggestions: How to deliver localized online help... DITA/Structure/XML?
Hello Framers! We currently deliver our user guide in HTML as the online help for our application. When the user clicks on the Help link/button/etc., the correct section of the rather lengthy user guide is displayed. We do this via WebWorks and TopicAlias markers, delivering "WebWorks Help" -- pretty standard stuff. The issue I'll soon be facing is the question of how to deliver a subset of the user guides for localization. Since we currently use the whole user guide as the online help, the translation costs/time/etc. to localize the entire set would be prohibitive. What I've been considering is trying to deliver a subset of the user guides as online help for localized versions of the application. This subset would cover the UI, but leave the more advanced subjects in the "English Only" user guide. I have a couple of questions, though. Does this approach make any sense? Would this be a good "case" for DITA? Am I overlooking a more simple/elegant solution? Obviously I want to avoid duplicating content where I can. Does anyone else here have experience with a similar project? Because our current online help is actually two separate guides (User and Advanced guides) together in a single WebWorks Help presentation, I considered adding a third guide, this one to be localized, and then a separate mapping of TopicAlias Markers for localized versions. This is probably the route I'd take, if I end up going with some sort of structured solution (so that I could take advantage of a single source, generating the three books). Your thoughts? -g-
RE: making chm with FM 7.2 and WebWorks Standard
Yes, (As usual, Bill is spot on) I found myself in that situation a couple of years ago. I convinced my new employers to buy Frame, and ended up using WW2k3 Standard, HTML Help Workshop, and some perl scripts I hacked together (for the index/etc.) to make the whole thing work. A fairly ugly and inelegant solution, but it worked. We're having enough problems with WWeP here that I _almost_ look back fondly on those days... :) -g- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:07 AM To: Rochelle Fisher Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: making chm with FM 7.2 and WebWorks Standard You can't make CHMs with WWP Standard, however you can take the HTML output and use any Help authoring tool to compile the HTML from WWP Standard into CHM. But, you will need to manually create a TOC and IX for the CHM. If you're not creating Help often, this solution might work (HTML Help Workshop is free from MS, and there are other free and cheap (Shareware) HATs out there that you can use (if you don't mind paying a minimal fee, you might want to use FAR from helpware.net). Otherwise consider upgrading to WWeP Professional. But no, you can't create CHMs directly with WWP Standard alone. On 7/24/06, Rochelle Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I just got FM 7.2, after using FM 6.0 for years. In the last place I worked, I was using FM 6.0 with WebWorks Professional, and creating CHMs for online help. Now I have just convinced my new employers to buy FM, and I was sure that I could make a CHM for them with WW Standard...but it's not an option in the main menu! Has anyone made a CHM using WW Standard? Any suggestions? -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com avid homebrewer and proud beer snob ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/garrett%40ironport.c om Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
making chm with FM 7.2 and WebWorks Standard
Yes, (As usual, Bill is spot on) I found myself in that situation a couple of years ago. I convinced my new employers to buy Frame, and ended up using WW2k3 Standard, HTML Help Workshop, and some perl scripts I hacked together (for the index/etc.) to make the whole thing work. A fairly ugly and inelegant solution, but it worked. We're having enough problems with WWeP here that I _almost_ look back fondly on those days... :) -g- -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+garrett=ironport@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+garrett=ironport.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow Sent: Friday, July 28, 2006 7:07 AM To: Rochelle Fisher Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: making chm with FM 7.2 and WebWorks Standard You can't make CHMs with WWP Standard, however you can take the HTML output and use any Help authoring tool to compile the HTML from WWP Standard into CHM. But, you will need to manually create a TOC and IX for the CHM. If you're not creating Help often, this solution might work (HTML Help Workshop is free from MS, and there are other free and cheap (Shareware) HATs out there that you can use (if you don't mind paying a minimal fee, you might want to use FAR from helpware.net). Otherwise consider upgrading to WWeP Professional. But no, you can't create CHMs directly with WWP Standard alone. On 7/24/06, Rochelle Fisher wrote: > Hi all, > I just got FM 7.2, after using FM 6.0 for years. In the last place I worked, > I was using FM 6.0 with WebWorks Professional, and creating CHMs for online > help. > Now I have just convinced my new employers to buy FM, and I was sure that I > could make a CHM for them with WW Standard...but it's not an option in the > main menu! > > Has anyone made a CHM using WW Standard? Any suggestions? -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner Senior Member STC, TechValley Chapter http://techcommdood.blogspot.com avid homebrewer and proud beer snob ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as garrett at ironport.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/garrett%40ironport.c om Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Way to generate a list of Object Properties?
I can't agree more with what Yves wrote. Bruce Foster's archive plugin is simple, elegant, and incredibly helpful. I love that nice clean slate feeling... -g- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:06 PM To: Denise Salles Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Way to generate a list of Object Properties? Hello Denise, indeed, you can generate an index of references (imported graphics) and this may help to clean up your graphics folder. However, you'd still have to clean up this folder manually. I use the Bruce Foster's Archive plug-in to do this in a more automated way. It copies all the files of your FrameMaker book and all the imported graphics and text insets to a target folder. You can then delete the legacy graphics folder and move the files back to the original location. Great tool, $25 only and it saves you a lot of time. You can find Archive here: http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/Archive.htm Best regards -- Yves Barbion Technical Writer Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor UI Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv) Molenaarsstraat 111 B-9000 Gent Belgium Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 www.uni-learning.com On 3/27/06, Denise Salles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, is anyone aware of a way to generate a list of the actual Object Properties (graphic names) in a document/book? I'd like to do that to be able to see what graphics are actually in the book, as there about 100 unused ones in the sub-directory from legacy stuff, and I want to remove them. Anyone done this before? Many thanks, Denise salles ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gma il.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Yves Barbion Technical Writer Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor UI Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv) Molenaarsstraat 111 B-9000 Gent Belgium Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 www.uni-learning.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Way to generate a list of Object Properties?
I can't agree more with what Yves wrote. Bruce Foster's archive plugin is simple, elegant, and incredibly helpful. I love that nice "clean slate" feeling... -g- -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+garrett=ironport@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+garrett=ironport.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Yves Barbion Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:06 PM To: Denise Salles Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Way to generate a list of Object Properties? Hello Denise, indeed, you can generate an index of references (imported graphics) and this may help to clean up your graphics folder. However, you'd still have to clean up this folder manually. I use the Bruce Foster's Archive plug-in to do this in a more automated way. It copies all the files of your FrameMaker book and all the imported graphics and text insets to a target folder. You can then delete the legacy graphics folder and move the files back to the original location. Great tool, $25 only and it saves you a lot of time. You can find Archive here: http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/Archive.htm Best regards -- Yves Barbion Technical Writer Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor U Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv) Molenaarsstraat 111 B-9000 Gent Belgium Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 www.uni-learning.com On 3/27/06, Denise Salles wrote: > > Hi, > > is anyone aware of a way to generate a list of the actual Object > Properties (graphic names) in a document/book? I'd like to do that to > be able to see what graphics are actually in the book, as there about > 100 unused ones in the sub-directory from legacy stuff, and I want to > remove them. Anyone done this before? > > Many thanks, > Denise salles > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as yves.barbion at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/yves.barbion%40gma > il.com > > Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Yves Barbion Technical Writer Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor U Learning nv (formerly ATeK nv) Molenaarsstraat 111 B-9000 Gent Belgium Tel.: +32 9 265 74 72 Fax: +32 9 265 74 84 www.uni-learning.com
6x9 Template?
Anyone have/know of a 6x9 (inches) book template for FrameMaker they'd be willing to share/point me to? Thanks! -Garrett- === ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
6x9 Template?
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