RE: how to italicize every instance of certain words
Couldn't you just use variables? You can include character formats as part of the variable definition. You could keep a Frame file with all the variables and import them into documents as required. Laurie lurker but glad to hear Rick's surgery was a success - I was surprised to receive a personal phone call from him in response to a question I had posted several years ago, was always impressed by that At 14:13 -0600 25/6/12, Carol J. Elkins wrote: Framers, I'm looking for ideas on how to ensure that certain words and phrases in a document are always italicized whenever they are used. Perhaps someone knows of a script that will do this. If not, I'll ask Rick when he gets back on his feet. Ideally, there would be an external master list of the words to be italicized. Restrictions: I'm not willing to do a search/replace operation every time a working document is revised. And I'm not willing to do anything more than type a word in the working document for it to be recognized as needing italics. Although I have Silicon Prairie's Autotext add-on, I don't think that it does what I need. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
how to italicize every instance of certain words
Couldn't you just use variables? You can include character formats as part of the variable definition. You could keep a Frame file with all the variables and import them into documents as required. Laurie At 14:13 -0600 25/6/12, Carol J. Elkins wrote: >Framers, I'm looking for ideas on how to ensure that certain words and phrases in a document are always italicized whenever they are used. Perhaps someone knows of a script that will do this. > If not, I'll ask Rick when he gets back on his feet. Ideally, there would be an external master list of the words to be italicized. >Restrictions: I'm not willing to do a search/replace operation every time a working document is revised. And I'm not willing to do anything more than type a word in the working document for it to be recognized as needing italics. Although I have Silicon Prairie's Autotext add-on, I don't think that it does what I need.
Re: Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives??
Thanks everyone for all your responses. I've been away, so I missed the last few responses. Some updates: I should have mentioned that the original docs are in Word, not Frame, so that kind of conversion is not applicable in this case, but the information provided is good to know for future reference. I should also mention that the doc set is two versions of a user doc (mostly identical, differences easily handled by conditional text, one short chapter is completely different between the two, handled by books) that runs about 70-75 pages in Word, and a quick start guide (about 10 pages). Child's play! The client is still determined that the priority is (1) open source, (2) Mac, (3) Framemaker on Mac. I didn't realize that OpenOffice Writer did conditional text. I found an article that compared it pretty favourable with Framemaker (http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/39406), but it was written in 2004. I didn't find much (anything) more recent. Why is that? It seems so promising based on the article. Has anyone out there actually used Writer for user docs? My colleague, who will be the one working on this project, was playing around with Writer, and sees that it's obviously not on a par with Framemaker, but it will probably suffice for this client if that's their insistence. Scribus does text insets, but not conditional text. I had planned that the document set would use both features, but if we really have to use either Scribus or Writer, then conditional text is more important. We can work around the text inset requirement. Laurie ~ You also mentioned wanting an open source tool. As Peter said, there's no open source replacement for FrameMaker with all of its features. However, I think that OpenOffice Writer is remarkably good and has many advanced features. It does not have text inset features, but it does have conditional text and variables, but not on par with FrameMaker. For basic PDF publishing of long technical documents, OpenOffice Writer is far superior to Word and comparable with FrameMaker. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives??
Thanks everyone for all your responses. I've been away, so I missed the last few responses. Some updates: I should have mentioned that the original docs are in Word, not Frame, so that kind of conversion is not applicable in this case, but the information provided is good to know for future reference. I should also mention that the doc set is two versions of a user doc (mostly identical, differences easily handled by conditional text, one chapter is completely different between the two, handled by books) that runs about 70-75 pages in Word, and a quick start guide (about 10 pages). Child's play! The client is still determined that the priority is (1) open source, (2) Mac, (3) Framemaker on Mac. I didn't realize that OpenOffice Writer did conditional text. I found an article that compared it pretty favourable with Framemaker (http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/39406), but it was written in 2004. I didn't find much (anything) more recent. Why is that? It seems so promising based on the article. Has anyone out there actually used Writer for user docs? My colleague, who will be the one working on this project, was playing around with Writer, and sees that it's obviously not on a par with Framemaker, but it will probably suffice for this client if that's their insistence. Scribus does text insets, but not conditional text. I had planned that the document set would use both features, but if we really have to use either Scribus or Writer, then conditional text is more important. We can work around the text inset requirement. Laurie ~ You also mentioned wanting an open source tool. As Peter said, there's no open source replacement for FrameMaker with all of its features. However, I think that OpenOffice Writer is remarkably good and has many advanced features. It does not have text inset features, but it does have conditional text and variables, but not on par with FrameMaker. For basic PDF publishing of long technical documents, OpenOffice Writer is far superior to Word and comparable with FrameMaker.
Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives??
Hello from beautiful sunny Toronto! I need to recommend a tool for a client who works on Mac, and it's between FM (via Bootcamp/Parallels/whatever) and Indesign for Mac (major functional requirements are conditions/variables/text insets). We're pushing for Frame, since we're the ones who will be converting the old docs/maintaining etc., but the client (thinks he) will be doing some minor maintenance and therefore prefers a Mac (and preferably an open-source) solution if one can be found, so my boss wants to make sure we have all info to present. Since Indesign CS4 *can* do conditional text/xrefs/variables, I need to assemble a good argument for not using it :-D From what I've read in various forums (fora?) and blogs etc., Frame is still the preferred tool for user docs, regardless of platform. Just to round out our proposal though, I need to include/eliminate any other alternatives. The ones I have looked at don't seem to do conditional text (which would be critical to this project). Does anyone know of another (Mac/open source) tool that handles conditional text, other than Frame and Indesign? Thanks for any advice/warnings/tips/rants/etc, Laurie Little Words That Work www.words-tw.com 905-947-1557 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives??
Thanks so much Peter, this kind of comparison is invaluable. So why would one choose one over the other when they can both handle user documentation (apart from any need to convert to help)? Is it a case of: - If you only have Indesign, it can do what you need, but if you have a choice use Frame or - Use whichever GUI you're comfortable with or whichever (native) platform you prefer ? If they choose Indesign, I hope your book is ready in time for me to buy! Laurie -Original Message- From: knowhow...@gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com]on Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:41 PM To: Laurie Little Cc: Framers list (E-mail) Subject: Re: Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives?? Hi, Laurie: I'm an Adobe ACE for FrameMaker and InDesign, and I'm writing a book for FrameMaker users who want to learn to use InDesign for the same kind of long and complex technical publications. So, I've been looking closely at the similarities, differences, workarounds, and tradeoffs between the products, as well as the issues of cross-training both FrameMaker and InDesign users to the opposite product. Briefly: * ID's conditional text (new in CS4) compares well to FM's. * ID's cross-references (new in CS4) compare well to FM's. * ID's numbered lists (significantly improved in CS4) , books, and generated lists and indexes compare well to FM's. * ID's variables compare well to FM's. * There's no exact counterpart for FM's text insets in ID, though ID's ability to import ID files may suffice in some situations. * If any kind of help system is a requirement, or will be, FM is the winner here; ID currently has nothing so closely matched as Robohelp. However, ID's XML and tagged text could be enlisted for some kind of conversion to work with a help-creation tool. * ID's XML isn't up to FM's. ID'a structure features are not on the same level as FM's structured authoring features. On my new Mac-Intel MacBook Pro, I've started using FM 9.x under Windows 7 public beta release candidate with VMware's Fusion 2 application. So far, it's the FM I've always known, and it's only a keystroke or two to move between Mac OS X and Windows 7, just like switching between applications on standard Mac or Windows. BootCamp Requires a separate partition and can't switch between concurrently-running OS X and Windows - you need to restart. Parallels and Fusion don't have this limitation. Fusion and Parallels can easily keep Mac and Windows files on a single file system, so any application on either OS can work with any file it recognizes. BootCamp is harder to set up for sharing files, and, again, can't switch between OS X and Windows without a restart. If there was an open-source replacement for FM, with all of its features and reliability, we'd all know about it. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Laurie Little llit...@words-tw.com wrote: Hello from beautiful sunny Toronto! I need to recommend a tool for a client who works on Mac, and it's between FM (via Bootcamp/Parallels/whatever) and Indesign for Mac (major functional requirements are conditions/variables/text insets). We're pushing for Frame, since we're the ones who will be converting the old docs/maintaining etc., but the client (thinks he) will be doing some minor maintenance and therefore prefers a Mac (and preferably an open-source) solution if one can be found, so my boss wants to make sure we have all info to present. Since Indesign CS4 *can* do conditional text/xrefs/variables, I need to assemble a good argument for not using it :-D From what I've read in various forums (fora?) and blogs etc., Frame is still the preferred tool for user docs, regardless of platform. Just to round out our proposal though, I need to include/eliminate any other alternatives. The ones I have looked at don't seem to do conditional text (which would be critical to this project). Does anyone know of another (Mac/open source) tool that handles conditional text, other than Frame and Indesign? Thanks for any advice/warnings/tips/rants/etc, Laurie Little Words That Work www.words-tw.com 905-947-1557 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives??
I totally agree with you Art - I'm just concerned that the client is focussing more on the platform than the right tool, and to avoid having him pick Indesign just because it runs native on the Mac and it *can* do conditional text etc. So all the points everyone is raising is adding to my arsenal :-D Of course, if the client will be using Indesign for other layout-driven purposes (brochures etc.) that we will not be involved in, then yes it makes more sense for them to choose the single tool that will address all their needs. They are not big enough and don't do enough documentation to warrant having both tools. Laurie -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:47 PM To: Laurie Little Cc: Framers list (E-mail) Subject: Re: Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives?? Laurie, I think you're overlooking the primary difference between the two programs -- what they're designed to do. * FM excels at long-document management, projects where most layout is driven by a finite set of templates, and situations where documentation is single-sourced to multiple output formats. * InDesign is Adobe's Pagemaker replacement and is designed to work better in an environment where many pages use, or require, design-driven manual tweaking. I've used both, and each has a place in a writer's toolbox, but the most important consideration is the type of content and the requirements of the end-user. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Laurie Little llit...@words-tw.com wrote: Thanks so much Peter, this kind of comparison is invaluable. So why would one choose one over the other when they can both handle user documentation (apart from any need to convert to help)? Is it a case of: - If you only have Indesign, it can do what you need, but if you have a choice use Frame or - Use whichever GUI you're comfortable with or whichever (native) platform you prefer ? If they choose Indesign, I hope your book is ready in time for me to buy! Laurie -Original Message- From: knowhow...@gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com]on Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:41 PM To: Laurie Little Cc: Framers list (E-mail) Subject: Re: Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives?? Hi, Laurie: I'm an Adobe ACE for FrameMaker and InDesign, and I'm writing a book for FrameMaker users who want to learn to use InDesign for the same kind of long and complex technical publications. So, I've been looking closely at the similarities, differences, workarounds, and tradeoffs between the products, as well as the issues of cross-training both FrameMaker and InDesign users to the opposite product. Briefly: * ID's conditional text (new in CS4) compares well to FM's. * ID's cross-references (new in CS4) compare well to FM's. * ID's numbered lists (significantly improved in CS4) , books, and generated lists and indexes compare well to FM's. * ID's variables compare well to FM's. * There's no exact counterpart for FM's text insets in ID, though ID's ability to import ID files may suffice in some situations. * If any kind of help system is a requirement, or will be, FM is the winner here; ID currently has nothing so closely matched as Robohelp. However, ID's XML and tagged text could be enlisted for some kind of conversion to work with a help-creation tool. * ID's XML isn't up to FM's. ID'a structure features are not on the same level as FM's structured authoring features. On my new Mac-Intel MacBook Pro, I've started using FM 9.x under Windows 7 public beta release candidate with VMware's Fusion 2 application. So far, it's the FM I've always known, and it's only a keystroke or two to move between Mac OS X and Windows 7, just like switching between applications on standard Mac or Windows. BootCamp Requires a separate partition and can't switch between concurrently-running OS X and Windows - you need to restart. Parallels and Fusion don't have this limitation. Fusion and Parallels can easily keep Mac and Windows files on a single file system, so any application on either OS can work with any file it recognizes. BootCamp is harder to set up for sharing files, and, again, can't switch between OS X and Windows without a restart. If there was an open-source replacement for FM, with all of its features and reliability, we'd all know about it. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Laurie Little llit...@words-tw.com wrote: Hello from beautiful sunny Toronto! I need to recommend a tool for a client who works on Mac, and it's between FM (via
Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives??
Hello from beautiful sunny Toronto! I need to recommend a tool for a client who works on Mac, and it's between FM (via Bootcamp/Parallels/whatever) and Indesign for Mac (major functional requirements are conditions/variables/text insets). We're pushing for Frame, since we're the ones who will be converting the old docs/maintaining etc., but the client (thinks he) will be doing some minor maintenance and therefore prefers a Mac (and preferably an open-source) solution if one can be found, so my boss wants to make sure we have all info to present. Since Indesign CS4 *can* do conditional text/xrefs/variables, I need to assemble a good argument for not using it :-D >From what I've read in various forums (fora?) and blogs etc., Frame is still the preferred tool for user docs, regardless of platform. Just to round out our proposal though, I need to include/eliminate any other alternatives. The ones I have looked at don't seem to do conditional text (which would be critical to this project). Does anyone know of another (Mac/open source) tool that handles conditional text, other than Frame and Indesign? Thanks for any advice/warnings/tips/rants/etc, ~~~~ Laurie Little Words That Work www.words-tw.com 905-947-1557
Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives??
Thanks so much Peter, this kind of comparison is invaluable. So why would one choose one over the other when they can both handle user documentation (apart from any need to convert to help)? Is it a case of: - "If you only have Indesign, it can do what you need, but if you have a choice use Frame" or - "Use whichever GUI you're comfortable with or whichever (native) platform you prefer" ? If they choose Indesign, I hope your book is ready in time for me to buy! Laurie -Original Message- From: knowhowpro at gmail.com [mailto:knowhow...@gmail.com]On Behalf Of Peter Gold Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:41 PM To: Laurie Little Cc: Framers list (E-mail) Subject: Re: Frame vs Indesign vs alternatives?? Hi, Laurie: I'm an Adobe ACE for FrameMaker and InDesign, and I'm writing a book for FrameMaker users who want to learn to use InDesign for the same kind of long and complex technical publications. So, I've been looking closely at the similarities, differences, workarounds, and tradeoffs between the products, as well as the issues of cross-training both FrameMaker and InDesign users to the opposite product. Briefly: * ID's conditional text (new in CS4) compares well to FM's. * ID's cross-references (new in CS4) compare well to FM's. * ID's numbered lists (significantly improved in CS4) , books, and generated lists and indexes compare well to FM's. * ID's variables compare well to FM's. * There's no exact counterpart for FM's text insets in ID, though ID's ability to import ID files may suffice in some situations. * If any kind of help system is a requirement, or will be, FM is the winner here; ID currently has nothing so closely matched as Robohelp. However, ID's XML and tagged text could be enlisted for some kind of conversion to work with a help-creation tool. * ID's XML isn't up to FM's. ID'a structure features are not on the same level as FM's structured authoring features. On my new Mac-Intel MacBook Pro, I've started using FM 9.x under Windows 7 public beta release candidate with VMware's Fusion 2 application. So far, it's the FM I've always known, and it's only a keystroke or two to move between Mac OS X and Windows 7, just like switching between applications on standard Mac or Windows. BootCamp Requires a separate partition and can't switch between concurrently-running OS X and Windows - you need to restart. Parallels and Fusion don't have this limitation. Fusion and Parallels can easily keep Mac and Windows files on a single file system, so any application on either OS can work with any file it recognizes. BootCamp is harder to set up for sharing files, and, again, can't switch between OS X and Windows without a restart. If there was an open-source replacement for FM, with all of its features and reliability, we'd all know about it. HTH Regards, Peter __ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Laurie Little wrote: > Hello from beautiful sunny Toronto! > > I need to recommend a tool for a client who works on Mac, and it's between > FM (via Bootcamp/Parallels/whatever) and Indesign for Mac (major functional > requirements are conditions/variables/text insets). > > We're pushing for Frame, since we're the ones who will be converting the old > docs/maintaining etc., but the client (thinks he) will be doing some minor > maintenance and therefore prefers a Mac (and preferably an open-source) > solution if one can be found, so my boss wants to make sure we have all info > to present. > > Since Indesign CS4 *can* do conditional text/xrefs/variables, I need to > assemble a good argument for not using it :-D > >From what I've read in various forums (fora?) and blogs etc., Frame is still > the preferred tool for user docs, regardless of platform. > > Just to round out our proposal though, I need to include/eliminate any other > alternatives. The ones I have looked at don't seem to do conditional text > (which would be critical to this project). Does anyone know of another > (Mac/open source) tool that handles conditional text, other than Frame and > Indesign? > > Thanks for any advice/warnings/tips/rants/etc, > > > Laurie Little > Words That Work > www.words-tw.com > 905-947-1557 > >
RE: searching for article in front of a variable
Yes, that's a great idea, thanks Beverly! I have the same situation in one of my file sets. I use two variables named article (used most of the time, when the article should be lowercase) and Article (used when the article starts a sentence or heading). The Frame file would read article var name instead of a var name or an var name. My template documents define the articles correctly for the definition of the variables and all are imported at the same time when I change from one output to another. Excellent! IMHO, this is clearly the best solution. Thank you for sharing. Richard Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
searching for article in front of a variable
Yes, that's a great idea, thanks Beverly! > > > I have the same situation in one of my file sets. I use two variables > named > > "article" (used most of the time, when the article should be > lowercase) and > > "Article" (used when the article starts a sentence or heading). The > Frame > > file would read " " instead of "a " or > "an > > ". My template documents define the articles correctly for > the > > definition of the variables and all are imported at the same time when > I > > change from one output to another. > > Excellent! IMHO, this is clearly the best solution. Thank you for > sharing. > > Richard > > > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > >
searching for article in front of a variable
Frame 7.2 I have a variable (government ministry of health shortform) that affects the article in front of it. Each province has a different shortform. When I change the variable, the article may be affected. For example, in the Ontario doc, it's an MOH bill, while in New Brunswick, it should be a DHW bill. Is there any way to search for a var name or an var name, or do I have to just search for all instances of that variable to check the article in front of it? Thanks, Laurie Little Words That Work www.words-tw.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
searching for article in front of a variable
Frame 7.2 I have a variable (government ministry of health shortform) that affects the article in front of it. Each province has a different shortform. When I change the variable, the article may be affected. For example, in the Ontario doc, it's "an MOH bill", while in New Brunswick, it should be "a DHW bill". Is there any way to search for "a " or "an ", or do I have to just search for all instances of that variable to check the article in front of it? Thanks, Laurie Little Words That Work www.words-tw.com
Re: Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
I have a somewhat similar monster project. Here's what I do: There are two versions of the manual, one with the full suite, and one without a module. Most of that module's info is covered in a few chapters, so I have two books to control which chapters are included. In the common chapters, there is some module-specific content, so there is a condition called Module_only and notModule. On top of all this, there are some province-specific differences, which are also handled by conditions. (There is also some duplication required to handle translation issues, but that's another story!). All conditions are in all chapters, just to keep it simple. AND...there are variables that are defined differently according to province. SO...I have a separate Frame file for each province and version, which contains the variables and condition settings required for that output. For example, ON_Module, ON_noModule, BC_Module, BC_noModule, etc. I import the variables and conditional text settings only from the appropriate settings file into all chapters of the appropriate book. HTH, Laurie Little Words That Work 905-947-1557 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Single sourcing 2 manuals and one help
I have a somewhat similar monster project. Here's what I do: There are two versions of the manual, one with the full suite, and one without a module. Most of that module's info is covered in a few chapters, so I have two books to control which chapters are included. In the common chapters, there is some module-specific content, so there is a condition called Module_only and notModule. On top of all this, there are some province-specific differences, which are also handled by conditions. (There is also some duplication required to handle translation issues, but that's another story!). All conditions are in all chapters, just to keep it simple. AND...there are variables that are defined differently according to province. SO...I have a separate Frame file for each province and version, which contains the variables and condition settings required for that output. For example, ON_Module, ON_noModule, BC_Module, BC_noModule, etc. I import the variables and conditional text settings only from the appropriate settings file into all chapters of the appropriate book. HTH, Laurie Little Words That Work 905-947-1557
RE: long target names in xref dialog
Thanks Stuart - I've received two offline suggestions along these lines and am looking at it right now! Thanks for all the on- and off-line responses! Laurie -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:18 PM To: Laurie Little Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: long target names in xref dialog Laurie Little wrote: We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as to facilitate auto-population of online help). Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the same way, and the dialog box is not resizable. We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this project) changing the structure of the H1s. Does anyone have any other ideas? Thanks, You could use a Resource Editor like http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/ to resize your x-ref_main dialog box to accommodate longer names. Make a backup of fmdlg.dll in Program Files Adobe Framemaker fminit before you mess with it though! HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. — P.J. O’Rourke ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
long target names in xref dialog
We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as to facilitate auto-population of online help). Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the same way, and the dialog box is not resizable. We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this project) changing the structure of the H1s. Does anyone have any other ideas? Thanks, Laurie Little Words That Work 905-947-1557 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
long target names in xref dialog
We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as to facilitate auto-population of online help). Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the same way, and the dialog box is not resizable. We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this project) changing the structure of the H1s. Does anyone have any other ideas? Thanks, Laurie Little Words That Work 905-947-1557
long target names in xref dialog
Thanks Stuart - I've received two offline suggestions along these lines and am looking at it right now! Thanks for all the on- and off-line responses! Laurie -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:18 PM To: Laurie Little Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: long target names in xref dialog Laurie Little wrote: > We have a document that is set up with the H1s as the menu path name (so as > to facilitate auto-population of online help). > > Some of these paths are quite long, with the result that the targets listed > in the cross-reference dialog are indistinguishable because many start the > same way, and the dialog box is not resizable. > > We have identified a few workarounds for this, including manually creating > distinct cross-reference markers in the text, or (less desirable for this > project) changing the structure of the H1s. > > Does anyone have any other ideas? > Thanks, > You could use a Resource Editor like http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/ to resize your x-ref_main dialog box to accommodate longer names. Make a backup of fmdlg.dll in Program Files > Adobe > Framemaker > fminit before you mess with it though! HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." ? P.J. O?Rourke
