[Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning of a text flow

[Peter Kelly]

Hi everyone,

I've come across this strange behavior of Frame where if I insert a paragraph 
at the beginning of a text flow, Space Before does not seem to be taken into 
account. I have to use empty carriage returns to create white space before a 
major heading at the beginning of a flow, for example. Am I missing something? 
As always grateful for any help received.

Best,
Peter
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[Framers] Does the Insert>Image workflow in FM2019 produce an image that is copied or imported by reference?

[Peter Kelly]

Hi everyone,

I am using unstructured FM 2019 and am trying out the Insert > Image workflow. 
It seems to be copying the image into the document and also seems to maintain a 
reference to the location of the image. Any changes I make to the source image 
are reflected automatically in my FM document as if the image were imported by 
reference. When I use the Insert > Image feature I am not given the choice of 
whether I want to copy into the document or import by reference. When I select 
the graphic and view Object Properties, it indicates "Imported by Copy." I am 
assuming then if I don't want a bloated file I should continue to import by 
reference using File > Import > File and selecting Import by Reference.

Thoughts?

Best,
Peter
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Re: [Framers] Runaround properties for tables in FrameMaker?

[Peter Kelly]

Thanks for the answer. A student of mine wanted to be able to do this to use up 
white space. I don't think it's worthwhile really to insert tables into text 
boxes since that would disturb the automatic flow of text before and after the 
table. 

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You can't do that using table properties. You could if you created a text frame 
and inserted the table inside the frame. If you have standard table 
configurations that take up the same space on the page, you could probably save 
a text frame somewhere, copy and paste it in, then insert the table.
Or Silicon Prairie has the Autotext plugin which would let you set it up in a 
document and insert as needed, frame and table at the same time.

Why are you trying to do this, btw? Is it because your tables aren't as wide as 
the page so you want to take advantage of the blank space?

On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 2:07 PM Peter Kelly  wrote:

> Hi Framers,
>
> Have always had good advice from you so am out to test my luck again. 
> Is there a way of specifying runaround properties for tables? Whenever 
> I have a table in a main text flow, I am not able to make text 
> runaround the table. I've only been able to make text precede and 
> follow. Creating a two column layout for this just seems like a lot of 
> work that would not be re-used. Any advice is appreciated.
>
> Best,
> Peter
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[Framers] Runaround properties for tables in FrameMaker?

[Peter Kelly]

Hi Framers,

Have always had good advice from you so am out to test my luck again. Is there 
a way of specifying runaround properties for tables? Whenever I have a table in 
a main text flow, I am not able to make text runaround the table. I've only 
been able to make text precede and follow. Creating a two column layout for 
this just seems like a lot of work that would not be re-used. Any advice is 
appreciated.

Best,
Peter
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[Framers] Formatting source code snippets

[Peter Kelly]

Hi everyone,

I have seen variations of this topic in the archives dating from 2007. I was 
wondering what strategies FrameMaker 2019 users employ to reproduce code 
snippets in API reference guides and the like. I used to format each 
indentation with a different style and also used to just copy and paste into a 
monotype style to preserve the formatting without having to re-create it in 
Frame. Any suggestions or better work methods are much appreciated.

Best,
Peter

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Cross-references and text insets

[Peter Kelly]

Hi everybody,

 

We are working with unstructured FM 8 on Vista. I have a chapter which
has several user workflows all of which have one or two procedures that
are common, so I decided to use text insets. At the beginning of each
workflow then I have summaries of all the steps that cross-reference the
procedures. Sometimes the same procedure (a text inset) might be in
several workflows.

 

All this to say that I have cross-references to the same text inset that
appears in several places in the same container document. I have tried
manually placing the marker inside the text inset file and then
inserting the cross-references from the container document. When I
create the cross-reference I select target paragraphs from within the
current container document. When I update the book file though the page
number of the first text inset seems to be propagated to all the other
cross-references. I thought the whole point of text insets was to reuse
them multiple times even in the same container document if need be. I
guess not if they need to be cross-referenced? Am I doing something
wrong or should I just forget about trying to cross-reference the same
text inset in several places in the same container document?

 

 

Best indeed,

 

Peter Kelly

ROLTA CANADA LIMITED

www.oriongis.com

 

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Cross-references and text insets

[Peter Kelly]

Hi everybody,



We are working with unstructured FM 8 on Vista. I have a chapter which
has several user workflows all of which have one or two procedures that
are common, so I decided to use text insets. At the beginning of each
workflow then I have summaries of all the steps that cross-reference the
procedures. Sometimes the same procedure (a text inset) might be in
several workflows.



All this to say that I have cross-references to the same text inset that
appears in several places in the same container document. I have tried
manually placing the marker inside the text inset file and then
inserting the cross-references from the container document. When I
create the cross-reference I select target paragraphs from within the
current container document. When I update the book file though the page
number of the first text inset seems to be propagated to all the other
cross-references. I thought the whole point of text insets was to reuse
them multiple times even in the same container document if need be. I
guess not if they need to be cross-referenced? Am I doing something
wrong or should I just forget about trying to cross-reference the same
text inset in several places in the same container document?





Best indeed,



Peter Kelly

ROLTA CANADA LIMITED

www.oriongis.com

OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9

[Peter Kelly]

Hello everybody,

I just tried evaluating the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
found that RoboHelp 8 in particular did not produce consistent results.
I managed to corrupt every project I created only by continuously making
changes in the style mappings from FM to RH and then regenerating.
Sometimes the TOC would not generate at all. Has anyone been using RH8
and has anyone been able to get good results? If so what are you doing
right? Yes I watched the tutorial Adobe produced on FM9 and RH8, which
helped improve my results but it doesn't change the fact that RH8 seems
unstable.

Best,
Peter 
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OT: Adobe TCS2--RoboHelp 8 integration with FrameMaker 9

[Peter Kelly]

Hello everybody,

I just tried evaluating the Adobe Technical Communication Suite 2 and
found that RoboHelp 8 in particular did not produce consistent results.
I managed to corrupt every project I created only by continuously making
changes in the style mappings from FM to RH and then regenerating.
Sometimes the TOC would not generate at all. Has anyone been using RH8
and has anyone been able to get good results? If so what are you doing
right? Yes I watched the tutorial Adobe produced on FM9 and RH8, which
helped improve my results but it doesn't change the fact that RH8 seems
unstable.

Best,
Peter 

Continuous figure numbering skips a chapter

[Peter Kelly]

Hello fine Framers,

For the life of me I can't figure out why my figure numbers are
restarting at every chapter but my table numbers are continuous. The
numbering begins at chapter 1, restarts at chapter 2, and then becomes
continuous at chapter 3. Chapter 1 leaves off at Figure 7 and the first
figure in chapter 3 begins at Figure 8...

The autonumber format for my figure caption is: F:Figure n+: \t
I am running FM 8, and yes I have the latest patcheroos.

All enlightenment is much appreciated,
Peter
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Continuous figure numbering skips a chapter

[Peter Kelly]

Hello fine Framers,

For the life of me I can't figure out why my figure numbers are
restarting at every chapter but my table numbers are continuous. The
numbering begins at chapter 1, restarts at chapter 2, and then becomes
continuous at chapter 3. Chapter 1 leaves off at Figure 7 and the first
figure in chapter 3 begins at Figure 8...

The autonumber format for my figure caption is: F:Figure : \t
I am running FM 8, and yes I have the latest patcheroos.

All enlightenment is much appreciated,
Peter