RE: Can't enter alpha character in text
For years I have used a software product called PopChar. I displays all the characters in a font and by clicking on the character it will place it in your application. Here is the URL: http://www.ergonis.com/products/popcharx/. It works on MAC and PC. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 2:46 PM To: Nancy Allison; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Can't enter alpha character in text Are you sure there's an alpha in the font you're using? You can inspect it with Windows' Character Map utility. It will indicate the key sequence to type it in the status bar. If you're using a Unicode font, 097 is wrong. Use one of the methods documented here: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/3b1/index.htm Or just cut and paste from the browser test page that links to. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system. I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text. The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not work (it comes out as an x). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as azdunc...@triad.rr.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/azdunczyk%40triad.rr.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can't enter alpha character in text
Alt-097 is simply the character lower-case ‘a’. Enter it, highlight it and then set it to the symbol font (using the character designer preferably!) and it will show you what you want. Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:18 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Can't enter alpha character in text Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system. I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text. The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not work (it comes out as an x). I have gone cross-eyed trying to find the character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a way to search for the character. If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be very grateful. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can't enter alpha character in text
On 2013-Jul-19 2:17 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system. I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text. The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not work (it comes out as an x). I have gone cross-eyed trying to find the character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a way to search for the character. You can make a variable containing \u03B1 and insert it as required, provided the font you are using contains that glyph. HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text
Hi. I got the information from http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CD0QFjAAurl="">Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I hoped it would work for FM 10, too.Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets.Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time the special-character struggle comes up. Which it will.On 07/19/13, Fred Ridderdocu...@hotmail.com wrote:Where did you get that 097 code point? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text
Hi Nancy, If you look closely at the table, you'll see that the alpha symbol appears in the Symbol font column. In other words, Adobe/Frame is advising that you enter ANSI 097 (for a) and apply the Symbol font. So you understood just fine, you just missed the last step. At the end of the week, that's understandable! On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: Hi. I got the information from http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CD0QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdfei=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAwusg=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNAsig2=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMgbvm=bv.49478099,d.aWM Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I hoped it would work for FM 10, too. Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets. Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time the special-character struggle comes up. Which it will. On 07/19/13, Fred Ridderdocu...@hotmail.com wrote: Where did you get that 097 code point? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can't enter alpha character in text
The table that contains the ANSI 097 - lower-case alpha mapping is in the section titled Symbol and ZapfDingbats character sets and the lower-case alpha character and character name are in the column of the table headed Symbol set: graphic and name. What this tells you is that this character mapping applies *only* to the Symbol font. This method--relying on the character mapping of a specific font--is the old, pre-Unicode way of implementing special characters. The rightmost columns of the same table tell you that the same ANSI code will produce an outlined, 8-petal floral dingbat if the character is formatted as ZapfDingbats. Unless you have a specific requirement to avoid Unicode (e.g., a need to produce MIF files that are compatible with FM versions prior to v8), it is generally better to reference special characters by their Unicode hex code, which is (theoretically, at least) universal in any Unicode font that supports the codepage that contains the character. -FR Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:12:25 -0500 From: ma...@verizon.net To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text Hi. I got the information from http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CD0QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdfei=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAwusg=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNAsig2=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMgbvm=bv.49478099,d.aWM Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I hoped it would work for FM 10, too. Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets. Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time the special-character struggle comes up. Which it will. On 07/19/13, Fred Ridderdocu...@hotmail.com wrote: Where did you get that 097 code point? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can't enter alpha character in text
Where did you get that 097 code point? Decimal 097 (hex 0061) is actually the code point for a Latin lower-case a, and perhaps the instruction you cite assumed that you would format the character as Symbol font, which maps the Greek alphabet to the corresponding Latin alphabet code points and yields an alpha glyph in place of a Latin a glyph. But if you're using a Unicode font that supports the appropriate codepage, you should be able to use the code point for the proper Greek character, which is hex 03B1 (u+03B1). There are several ways to insert this character: You can use the Character palette (File Utilities Character Palette) You can use the File Utilities Hex Input commandYou can type it directly using the hex keypad mode described in the list last weekYou can copy the character from the Windows Character Map tool and paste it into the FrameMaker document. -Fred Ridder Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:17:34 -0500 From: ma...@verizon.net To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Can't enter alpha character in text Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system. I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text. The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not work (it comes out as an x). I have gone cross-eyed trying to find the character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a way to search for the character. If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be very grateful. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text
FM 9 and FM 10 should work identically in regard to _this_ font issue, so no need to worry about that in this case. :) Most importantly, from that link document, on page 13, it shows that you need to use the Symbol font to get an alpha (for the value 097). Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:12 PM To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text Hi. I got the information from http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=sfrm=1source=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CD0QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdfei=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAwusg=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNAsig2=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMgbvm=bv.49478099,d.aWM Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I hoped it would work for FM 10, too. Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets. Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time the special-character struggle comes up. Which it will. On 07/19/13, Fred Ridderdocu...@hotmail.commailto:docu...@hotmail.com wrote: Where did you get that 097 code point? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text
Hi, all.Well, life turned out to be simpler than I'd feared.(Syed, I didn't get the result you describe. As you stated, Alt-097 produces a lowercase a (in Arial, anyway). When I switch it to Symbol, I got a small uppercase A in what looks like a serif font.)However, I copied and pasted my source text from a Word file into NotePad. The symbol came through. I then copied and pasted it into FrameMaker. The symbol came through again!So I'm all set for now. Gawd, if I never had to struggle with another font issue, I would die happy.Thanks, everyone. Happy Friday!On 07/19/13, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:Alt-097 is simply the character lower-case ‘a’. Enter it, highlight it and then set it to the symbol font (using the character designer preferably!) and it will show you what you want.ZFrom: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy AllisonSent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:18 AMTo: framers@lists.frameusers.comSubject: Can't enter alpha character in textHi, all. I use FM 10on a Windows 7 system.I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text.The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not work (it comes out as an "x"). I have gone cross-eyed trying to find the character in the Character Palette, which does not seem to provide a way to search for the character. If anyone can solve this annoyance for me, I will be very grateful.--Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can't enter alpha character in text
Are you sure there's an alpha in the font you're using? You can inspect it with Windows' Character Map utility. It will indicate the key sequence to type it in the status bar. If you're using a Unicode font, 097 is wrong. Use one of the methods documented here: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/3b1/index.htm Or just cut and paste from the browser test page that links to. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, all. I use FM 10 on a Windows 7 system. I am wasting way, way too much time trying to accomplish a simple thing: I am trying to insert a lower case alpha (looks like a fish, or a lower-case a) into text. The key code Numlock-alt-097, provided in the FrameMaker 9 special character set does not work (it comes out as an x). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
