subject:"\"Re\\\: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads \\\(FM12 unst\\\)\""

Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Ed Nodland

1) I opened my FM file with Room for Side Heads select,
2) I removed the sideheads option
3) The sidebar was gone
4) I imported my template (sidebar did not return)
5) Applied masterpages (sidebar did not return)
6) Manually selected Room for Side Heads (sidebar returned)

Maybe https://forums.adobe.com/message/4209683 will help.  It says, "Sideheads
are a flow property (effectively a document level property, not any
individual text frame). If they were enabled in the MasterPage, but not
showing on the Body pages, then the Body pages had an override (i.e. it was
turned off there)."

Ed Nodland






On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Kurt Kroeber 
wrote:

> To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to
> another, the problem seems to stems from the fact that when the template is
> applied to another document almost all of the formats are applied except
> for one -- the Room for Side Heads object property is disabled for the text
> frame on the body page.  However, all of the template format settings look
> fine on the master pages.  Even when I reapplied the master page this still
> did not change the Room for Side Heads text object property on the body
> page.  To resolve this problem,  I selected the Object Properties for the
> text frame on the body page and enabled Room for Side Heads.  This manual
> updating of the text object property seemed to do the trick.
>
> I am not sure if this Room for Side Heads object property issue is with
> FrameMaker; it should accept 100% of the object property settings from a
> template file.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, John Sgammato 
> wrote:
>
>> Our Marketing group wants us to use new templates that have room for a
>> sidebar. We won't actually use the sidebar for anything, and it's OK for
>> titles, images, and tables to extend into the sidebar. We may put notes
>> over there.
>> We have been able to do this with the Room for Sideheads feature, and
>> we're pretty happy with the look. But when we import formats from one file
>> to another, all the formats come over as expected except for the sideheads
>> setting.
>> Is this a bug? A feature we don't understand? Has anyone dealt with this?
>> How can we import that sidehead setting along with the rest of the settings?
>>
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Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Kurt Kroeber

Thanks Ed for the clarification and pointer to this behaviour in Frame.
And thanks to everyone for the quick response.

Regards,

Kurt


On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:42 AM, Ed Nodland  wrote:

> 1) I opened my FM file with Room for Side Heads select,
> 2) I removed the sideheads option
> 3) The sidebar was gone
> 4) I imported my template (sidebar did not return)
> 5) Applied masterpages (sidebar did not return)
> 6) Manually selected Room for Side Heads (sidebar returned)
>
> Maybe https://forums.adobe.com/message/4209683 will help.  It says, "Sideheads
> are a flow property (effectively a document level property, not any
> individual text frame). If they were enabled in the MasterPage, but not
> showing on the Body pages, then the Body pages had an override (i.e. it was
> turned off there)."
>
> Ed Nodland
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 7:23 AM, Kurt Kroeber 
> wrote:
>
>> To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to
>> another, the problem seems to stems from the fact that when the template is
>> applied to another document almost all of the formats are applied except
>> for one -- the Room for Side Heads object property is disabled for the text
>> frame on the body page.  However, all of the template format settings look
>> fine on the master pages.  Even when I reapplied the master page this still
>> did not change the Room for Side Heads text object property on the body
>> page.  To resolve this problem,  I selected the Object Properties for the
>> text frame on the body page and enabled Room for Side Heads.  This manual
>> updating of the text object property seemed to do the trick.
>>
>> I am not sure if this Room for Side Heads object property issue is with
>> FrameMaker; it should accept 100% of the object property settings from a
>> template file.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, John Sgammato > > wrote:
>>
>>> Our Marketing group wants us to use new templates that have room for a
>>> sidebar. We won't actually use the sidebar for anything, and it's OK for
>>> titles, images, and tables to extend into the sidebar. We may put notes
>>> over there.
>>> We have been able to do this with the Room for Sideheads feature, and
>>> we're pretty happy with the look. But when we import formats from one file
>>> to another, all the formats come over as expected except for the sideheads
>>> setting.
>>> Is this a bug? A feature we don't understand? Has anyone dealt with
>>> this? How can we import that sidehead setting along with the rest of the
>>> settings?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>  *John Sgammato, Documentation Architect*
>>> *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com  *c* 508.927.2083
>>> *t* @actifiodocs 
>>>
>>> 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451
>>> 
>>>   
>>> 
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>
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Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Sharon Burton

Long standing bug. I recall this in frame 4. 

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> On Aug 12, 2014, at 7:23 AM, Kurt Kroeber  wrote:
> 
> To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to 
> another, the problem seems to stems from the fact that when the template is 
> applied to another document almost all of the formats are applied except for 
> one -- the Room for Side Heads object property is disabled for the text frame 
> on the body page.  However, all of the template format settings look fine on 
> the master pages.  Even when I reapplied the master page this still did not 
> change the Room for Side Heads text object property on the body page.  To 
> resolve this problem,  I selected the Object Properties for the text frame on 
> the body page and enabled Room for Side Heads.  This manual updating of the 
> text object property seemed to do the trick. 
> 
> I am not sure if this Room for Side Heads object property issue is with 
> FrameMaker; it should accept 100% of the object property settings from a 
> template file.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kurt
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, John Sgammato  
>> wrote:
>> Our Marketing group wants us to use new templates that have room for a 
>> sidebar. We won't actually use the sidebar for anything, and it's OK for 
>> titles, images, and tables to extend into the sidebar. We may put notes over 
>> there.
>> We have been able to do this with the Room for Sideheads feature, and we're 
>> pretty happy with the look. But when we import formats from one file to 
>> another, all the formats come over as expected except for the sideheads 
>> setting. 
>> Is this a bug? A feature we don't understand? Has anyone dealt with this? 
>> How can we import that sidehead setting along with the rest of the settings?
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>>  John Sgammato, Documentation Architect
>> e john.sgamm...@actifio.com  c 508.927.2083  
>> t @actifiodocs 
>> 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451
>> 
>> 
>> Radically simple copy data management 
>> .
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Re: importing master pages, but not getting Room for Sideheads (FM12 unst)

2014-08-12 Thread Kurt Kroeber

To elaborate John's point on the importing of formats from one file to
another, the problem seems to stems from the fact that when the template is
applied to another document almost all of the formats are applied except
for one -- the Room for Side Heads object property is disabled for the text
frame on the body page.  However, all of the template format settings look
fine on the master pages.  Even when I reapplied the master page this still
did not change the Room for Side Heads text object property on the body
page.  To resolve this problem,  I selected the Object Properties for the
text frame on the body page and enabled Room for Side Heads.  This manual
updating of the text object property seemed to do the trick.

I am not sure if this Room for Side Heads object property issue is with
FrameMaker; it should accept 100% of the object property settings from a
template file.

Thanks,

Kurt

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 9:37 AM, John Sgammato 
wrote:

> Our Marketing group wants us to use new templates that have room for a
> sidebar. We won't actually use the sidebar for anything, and it's OK for
> titles, images, and tables to extend into the sidebar. We may put notes
> over there.
> We have been able to do this with the Room for Sideheads feature, and
> we're pretty happy with the look. But when we import formats from one file
> to another, all the formats come over as expected except for the sideheads
> setting.
> Is this a bug? A feature we don't understand? Has anyone dealt with this?
> How can we import that sidehead setting along with the rest of the settings?
>
> --
>
>  *John Sgammato, Documentation Architect*
> *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com  *c* 508.927.2083
> *t* @actifiodocs 
>
> 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451
> 
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> 
>
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>
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