RE: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-26 Thread Harding, Dan
Au contraire. I don't believe the performance issues have anything to with 
either the JPEG image format or color rendering.

I've been suffering with the same symptoms for eons and the only image formats 
I am linking to are either grayscale PDFs or grayscale TIFFs. If possible, we 
avoid using the JPEG format entirely for print production.

I have tried LZW vs. non-LZW compression on TIFF images, but that does not 
appear to have an impact.

One thing I have not done is to test whether embedding vs. linking improves the 
page-to-page rendering performance. Of course, embedding all images is NOT a 
viable solution.

-Dan

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Hi Dave,

this is a 'well known' FrameMaker issue. It has to do with your image format 
(jpg?) and image color settings. We had similar issues with sRGB jpg images. 
Somehow FM has trouble translating the color information to screen presentation.

You, and others experiencing the same, should report it to the FrameMaker 
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Re: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-24 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp
Hi Dave,

this is a 'well known' FrameMaker issue. It has to do with your image format 
(jpg?) and image color settings. We had similar issues with sRGB jpg images. 
Somehow FM has trouble translating the color information to screen presentation.

You, and others experiencing the same, should report it to the FrameMaker 
development team (in cc) so they can do something about it for a next release.


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RE: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-23 Thread Denis Daly
Some of the images are 3 or 4MB, so not small.

Thanks to everyone for your helpful advice and thoughts.

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Sent: 22 January 2015 18:47
To: Denis Daly; Samantha Nair
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Scrolling pages issue

What size are the referenced images? I only have noticeably slow 
paging/scrolling if the referenced images are large.

(Win 7, 64-bit, 8 GB RAM)

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Subject: RE: Scrolling pages issue

Thanks Sam,

The images are stored locally but it is so slow to load them.

Denis

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Subject: Re: Scrolling pages issue

Hi Denis,

Are the images embedded or referenced from a network location?? If so, could 
you move the images to a local directory??

I also experience this problem but mine is caused by a slight network lag 
getting my networked, referenced images.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Sam.

On 22 January 2015 at 09:43, Denis Daly 
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Good morning,

I wonder if anyone else is experience a similar issue?

I am running Framemaker 12 on a Windows 7 laptop:  Intel Core i3-3110m CPU @ 
2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.

Whenever I scroll using the vertical scroll-bar, I am constantly frustrated at 
having to wait 4/5 seconds for the next page to load. We tried increasing RAM 
from 4GB to 8GB but this has not made any improvement.

Can anyone suggest a way to improve the situation, please?

Thanks

p.s. There are 1 or 2 images on each page.

Kind regards,
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Re: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-22 Thread Shmuel

  
  
Sounds like a graphics card issue. If you can get an external
graphics card you could test this theory:
See: https://www.google.co.il/search?q=external+graphics+card

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On 22-Jan-15 11:43 AM, Denis Daly
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
Good morning,
 
I wonder if anyone else is experience a
  similar issue?
 
I am running Framemaker 12 on a Windows 7
  laptop:  Intel Core i3-3110m CPU @ 2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.
 
Whenever I scroll using the vertical
  scroll-bar, I am constantly frustrated at having to wait 4/5
  seconds for the next page to load. We tried increasing RAM
  from 4GB to 8GB but this has not made any improvement.
 
Can anyone suggest a way to improve the
  situation, please?
 
Thanks
 
p.s. There are 1 or 2 images on each page.
 
Kind
regards,
Denis Daly
Technical
Writer
 

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  IRELAND
 
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Re: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-22 Thread Samantha Nair
Hi Denis,

Are the images embedded or referenced from a network location?? If so,
could you move the images to a local directory??

I also experience this problem but mine is caused by a slight network lag
getting my networked, referenced images.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Sam.

On 22 January 2015 at 09:43, Denis Daly d.d...@icpnewtech.com wrote:

  Good morning,



 I wonder if anyone else is experience a similar issue?



 I am running Framemaker 12 on a Windows 7 laptop:  Intel Core i3-3110m CPU
 @ 2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.



 Whenever I scroll using the vertical scroll-bar, I am constantly
 frustrated at having to wait 4/5 seconds for the next page to load. We
 tried increasing RAM from 4GB to 8GB but this has not made any improvement.



 Can anyone suggest a way to improve the situation, please?



 Thanks



 p.s. There are 1 or 2 images on each page.



 Kind regards,

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RE: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-22 Thread Denis Daly
Thanks Sam,

The images are stored locally but it is so slow to load them.

Denis

From: Samantha Nair [mailto:samantha.n...@smoothwall.net]
Sent: 22 January 2015 10:00
To: Denis Daly
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Scrolling pages issue

Hi Denis,

Are the images embedded or referenced from a network location?? If so, could 
you move the images to a local directory??

I also experience this problem but mine is caused by a slight network lag 
getting my networked, referenced images.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Sam.

On 22 January 2015 at 09:43, Denis Daly 
d.d...@icpnewtech.commailto:d.d...@icpnewtech.com wrote:
Good morning,

I wonder if anyone else is experience a similar issue?

I am running Framemaker 12 on a Windows 7 laptop:  Intel Core i3-3110m CPU @ 
2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.

Whenever I scroll using the vertical scroll-bar, I am constantly frustrated at 
having to wait 4/5 seconds for the next page to load. We tried increasing RAM 
from 4GB to 8GB but this has not made any improvement.

Can anyone suggest a way to improve the situation, please?

Thanks

p.s. There are 1 or 2 images on each page.

Kind regards,
Denis Daly
Technical Writer

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Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-22 Thread Denis Daly
Good morning,

I wonder if anyone else is experience a similar issue?

I am running Framemaker 12 on a Windows 7 laptop:  Intel Core i3-3110m CPU @ 
2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.

Whenever I scroll using the vertical scroll-bar, I am constantly frustrated at 
having to wait 4/5 seconds for the next page to load. We tried increasing RAM 
from 4GB to 8GB but this has not made any improvement.

Can anyone suggest a way to improve the situation, please?

Thanks

p.s. There are 1 or 2 images on each page.

Kind regards,
Denis Daly
Technical Writer

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RE: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-22 Thread Craig, Alison
What size are the referenced images? I only have noticeably slow 
paging/scrolling if the referenced images are large.

(Win 7, 64-bit, 8 GB RAM)

Alison


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Subject: RE: Scrolling pages issue

Thanks Sam,

The images are stored locally but it is so slow to load them.

Denis

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Sent: 22 January 2015 10:00
To: Denis Daly
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Scrolling pages issue

Hi Denis,

Are the images embedded or referenced from a network location?? If so, could 
you move the images to a local directory??

I also experience this problem but mine is caused by a slight network lag 
getting my networked, referenced images.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Sam.

On 22 January 2015 at 09:43, Denis Daly 
d.d...@icpnewtech.commailto:d.d...@icpnewtech.com wrote:
Good morning,

I wonder if anyone else is experience a similar issue?

I am running Framemaker 12 on a Windows 7 laptop:  Intel Core i3-3110m CPU @ 
2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.

Whenever I scroll using the vertical scroll-bar, I am constantly frustrated at 
having to wait 4/5 seconds for the next page to load. We tried increasing RAM 
from 4GB to 8GB but this has not made any improvement.

Can anyone suggest a way to improve the situation, please?

Thanks

p.s. There are 1 or 2 images on each page.

Kind regards,
Denis Daly
Technical Writer

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RE: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-22 Thread Keith Soltys
Years ago, I went to the launch event for Adobe InDesign. They said they’d 
written an entirely new rendering engine using modern, modular code. There was 
some speculation at the time that this would eventually make it into 
FrameMaker, but given that it’s been more than a decade, it seems that’s not 
going to happen.

I still can’t believe that I have to periodically hit CTRL-L to manually 
refresh the screen.

Regards
Keith

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Scrolling pages issue

FrameMaker has always had horrific graphics performance. Whatever it’s doing 
under the hood with respect to page rendering is abysmal.

I’m running a top end Intel Core i7 CPU with 32GB of RAM, 64-bit OS, dedicated 
graphics card, and the performance when paging up or down in FM12 is STILL 
Gawdawful.

-Dan

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Subject: Scrolling pages issue

Good morning,

I wonder if anyone else is experience a similar issue?

I am running Framemaker 12 on a Windows 7 laptop:  Intel Core i3-3110m CPU @ 
2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.

Whenever I scroll using the vertical scroll-bar, I am constantly frustrated at 
having to wait 4/5 seconds for the next page to load. We tried increasing RAM 
from 4GB to 8GB but this has not made any improvement.

Can anyone suggest a way to improve the situation, please?

Thanks

p.s. There are 1 or 2 images on each page.

Kind regards,
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Re: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-22 Thread Thomas Hirschler
Are you linking to your graphics across a server? I experienced similar
(bad) performance when trying to link to graphics across a server. When I
moved the graphics to the local machine, I no longer had the problem.



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  FrameMaker has always had horrific graphics performance. Whatever it’s
 doing under the hood with respect to page rendering is abysmal.



 I’m running a top end Intel Core i7 CPU with 32GB of RAM, 64-bit OS,
 dedicated graphics card, and the performance when paging up or down in FM12
 is STILL Gawdawful.



 *-Dan*



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 *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Scrolling pages issue



 Good morning,



 I wonder if anyone else is experience a similar issue?



 I am running Framemaker 12 on a Windows 7 laptop:  Intel Core i3-3110m CPU
 @ 2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.



 Whenever I scroll using the vertical scroll-bar, I am constantly
 frustrated at having to wait 4/5 seconds for the next page to load. We
 tried increasing RAM from 4GB to 8GB but this has not made any improvement.



 Can anyone suggest a way to improve the situation, please?



 Thanks



 p.s. There are 1 or 2 images on each page.



 Kind regards,

 *Denis Daly*

 Technical Writer



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RE: Scrolling pages issue

2015-01-22 Thread Harding, Dan
FrameMaker has always had horrific graphics performance. Whatever it's doing 
under the hood with respect to page rendering is abysmal.

I'm running a top end Intel Core i7 CPU with 32GB of RAM, 64-bit OS, dedicated 
graphics card, and the performance when paging up or down in FM12 is STILL 
Gawdawful.

-Dan

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Denis Daly
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Subject: Scrolling pages issue

Good morning,

I wonder if anyone else is experience a similar issue?

I am running Framemaker 12 on a Windows 7 laptop:  Intel Core i3-3110m CPU @ 
2.4GHz with 8GB RAM.

Whenever I scroll using the vertical scroll-bar, I am constantly frustrated at 
having to wait 4/5 seconds for the next page to load. We tried increasing RAM 
from 4GB to 8GB but this has not made any improvement.

Can anyone suggest a way to improve the situation, please?

Thanks

p.s. There are 1 or 2 images on each page.

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Denis Daly
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Scrolling Pages Issue

2015-01-22 Thread Graham, Jasmine S
Denis,
In response to your scrolling issue, I have discovered that having the Insets 
pod open dramatically affects performance.  I am also running FM 12, Windows 7, 
64-bit, i7 processor, 8GB. Just tried it to be sure about which pod it was and 
it forced the program to stop responding completely.

Perhaps it is this pod or another one like it that is doing similar activity 
behind the scenes?  Hope this helps!

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