Re: [Framers] smart spaces - selectively disabling ?

2016-05-24 Thread Monique Semp

Hi Scott,

Yep, you know it—I'm not using DITA, structured Frame, or DITA-FMx :-(. But 
I was just typing up a reply to the list, that corroborates your info:


I've received an offlist reply with a FrameScript to toggle the smart spaces 
on and off, so that's what I'll do (when I get to it, and purchase a new 
FrameScript license, which is now being sold directly by the developer, 
Frank Elmore, instead of Finite Matters, who sold it for many years).


In the meantime, this is manually possible just by using the manual process, 
Format > Document > Text Options, to toggle it on and off. I didn't realize 
that the setting was sticky only until you changed it, not a permanent file 
setting.


And yes, I bet there is a simple shortcut for F-keys that I could set up; I 
hadn't thought of that because I didn't know what key sequence I needed to 
keep repeating :-).


(So in this respect, FrameMaker is just like Word. Years ago, when I had to 
use word for a client for a big suite of user docs, I used keyboard macros 
to toggle smart quotes on and off so that the code snippets would use plain 
quotes.)


Thanks for the tips and info!
-Monique


-Original Message- 
From: Scott Prentice

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 1:20 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] smart spaces - selectively disabling ?

Hi Monique...

*If* you're working with DITA and *if* you're using DITA-FMx .. you're
in luck! FMx has an option to do just that (as well as the same for
smart quotes). But I'm thinking that this doesn't help your current
situation.  :o

My only remotely useful suggestion would be to create an ExtendScript to
toggle this on/off with a keystroke. If I find myself with some spare
time on my hands (not likely in the near future), I might just make a
plugin to do this .. does seem rather useful .. but don't hold your breath.

I assume you've looked for a keyboard shortcut to toggle this setting?

Hmm .. isn't there a way to create shortcuts for "F-KEYS"? I'll try and
check something later this afternoon. Rick might know and beat me to it
... ??

Cheers,
...scott


On 5/24/16 12:39 PM, Monique Semp wrote:

Hello, Framers,

I’ve got smart spaces set for my docs. But... I’d prefer to not have it 
for my code para styles. (For years I’ve been kludging it by using 
non-breaking spaces or copy/pasting—but NOT by paste special > Text, which 
strips the formats/extra spaces.)


But I can’t find any way to set/disable smart spaces on a para or char 
style. It seems that there’s just a single document setting for it, which 
controls the entire .fm file?


Pointers to how to selectively disable smart spaces or suggestions for 
better work-arounds are most appreciated!

-Monique



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Re: [Framers] smart spaces - selectively disabling ?

2016-05-24 Thread Scott Prentice

Hi Monique...

*If* you're working with DITA and *if* you're using DITA-FMx .. you're 
in luck! FMx has an option to do just that (as well as the same for 
smart quotes). But I'm thinking that this doesn't help your current 
situation.  :o


My only remotely useful suggestion would be to create an ExtendScript to 
toggle this on/off with a keystroke. If I find myself with some spare 
time on my hands (not likely in the near future), I might just make a 
plugin to do this .. does seem rather useful .. but don't hold your breath.


I assume you've looked for a keyboard shortcut to toggle this setting?

Hmm .. isn't there a way to create shortcuts for "F-KEYS"? I'll try and 
check something later this afternoon. Rick might know and beat me to it 
... ??


Cheers,
...scott


On 5/24/16 12:39 PM, Monique Semp wrote:

Hello, Framers,

I’ve got smart spaces set for my docs. But... I’d prefer to not have it for my 
code para styles. (For years I’ve been kludging it by using non-breaking spaces or 
copy/pasting—but NOT by paste special > Text, which strips the formats/extra 
spaces.)

But I can’t find any way to set/disable smart spaces on a para or char style. 
It seems that there’s just a single document setting for it, which controls the 
entire .fm file?

Pointers to how to selectively disable smart spaces or suggestions for better 
work-arounds are most appreciated!
-Monique



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[Framers] smart spaces - selectively disabling ?

2016-05-24 Thread Monique Semp
Hello, Framers,

I’ve got smart spaces set for my docs. But... I’d prefer to not have it for my 
code para styles. (For years I’ve been kludging it by using non-breaking spaces 
or copy/pasting—but NOT by paste special > Text, which strips the formats/extra 
spaces.)

But I can’t find any way to set/disable smart spaces on a para or char style. 
It seems that there’s just a single document setting for it, which controls the 
entire .fm file?

Pointers to how to selectively disable smart spaces or suggestions for better 
work-arounds are most appreciated!
-Monique
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Smart spaces

2006-05-05 Thread Partridge, Robert
I seem to remember some way of turning the smart spaces option 
off by default in FrameMaker with the ini file. But I can't seem to 
find out how to do it. Is it possible? Or am I just dreaming?

Rob



Smart spaces

2006-05-05 Thread Partridge, Robert
Ignore me... I forgot the setting is saved in the document, it's not an
ini file setting. Once changed and saved it is always true for that
document.

Rob

-Original Message-

I seem to remember some way of turning the smart spaces option off by
default in FrameMaker with the ini file. But I can't seem to find out
how to do it. Is it possible? Or am I just dreaming?

Rob



Smart spaces

2006-05-05 Thread Partridge, Robert
That setting should therefore be held in the template you base your new
document on. Our templates stupidly don't have it turned on, despite the
large number of code examples in our documents.  

-Original Message-
Bill Briggs wrote:

What would be nice is if you could make the default new document have it
turned on.

- web



Smart spaces

2006-05-05 Thread Bill Briggs
No such animal in the Mac install.

 - web

At 7:39 PM -0600 5/4/06, Ian Hawkins wrote:
>You can. Using FrameMaker, open the file 
>\fminit\custom. This is a FrameMaker file, 
>even without the .fm extension. This file is used as the default template. 
>Change the smart spaces setting and save the file.
>
>Ian
>
>Bill Briggs wrote:
>
>>What would be nice is if you could make the default new document have it 
>>turned on.
>>
>>- web
>> 




Smart spaces

2006-05-04 Thread Partridge, Robert
I seem to remember some way of turning the smart spaces option 
off by default in FrameMaker with the ini file. But I can't seem to 
find out how to do it. Is it possible? Or am I just dreaming?
 
Rob
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RE: Smart spaces

2006-05-04 Thread Partridge, Robert
Ignore me... I forgot the setting is saved in the document, it's not an
ini file setting. Once changed and saved it is always true for that
document.

Rob

-Original Message-

I seem to remember some way of turning the smart spaces option off by
default in FrameMaker with the ini file. But I can't seem to find out
how to do it. Is it possible? Or am I just dreaming?
 
Rob
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RE: Smart spaces

2006-05-04 Thread Bill Briggs
What would be nice is if you could make the default new document have it turned 
on.

- web

At 11:24 AM +1000 5/5/06, Partridge, Robert wrote:
Ignore me... I forgot the setting is saved in the document, it's not an
ini file setting. Once changed and saved it is always true for that
document.

Rob

-Original Message-

I seem to remember some way of turning the smart spaces option off by
default in FrameMaker with the ini file. But I can't seem to find out
how to do it. Is it possible? Or am I just dreaming?
 
Rob
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RE: Smart spaces

2006-05-04 Thread Partridge, Robert
That setting should therefore be held in the template you base your new
document on. Our templates stupidly don't have it turned on, despite the
large number of code examples in our documents.  

-Original Message-
Bill Briggs wrote:

What would be nice is if you could make the default new document have it
turned on.

- web
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Re: Smart spaces

2006-05-04 Thread Ian Hawkins
You can. Using FrameMaker, open the file 
FrameMakerInstallationDirectory\fminit\custom. This is a FrameMaker 
file, even without the .fm extension. This file is used as the default 
template. Change the smart spaces setting and save the file.


Ian

Bill Briggs wrote:


What would be nice is if you could make the default new document have it turned 
on.

- web
 


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Re: Smart spaces

2006-05-04 Thread Bill Briggs
No such animal in the Mac install.

 - web

At 7:39 PM -0600 5/4/06, Ian Hawkins wrote:
You can. Using FrameMaker, open the file 
FrameMakerInstallationDirectory\fminit\custom. This is a FrameMaker file, 
even without the .fm extension. This file is used as the default template. 
Change the smart spaces setting and save the file.

Ian

Bill Briggs wrote:

What would be nice is if you could make the default new document have it 
turned on.

- web
 

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Smart spaces

2006-05-04 Thread Bill Briggs
What would be nice is if you could make the default new document have it turned 
on.

- web

At 11:24 AM +1000 5/5/06, Partridge, Robert wrote:
>Ignore me... I forgot the setting is saved in the document, it's not an
>ini file setting. Once changed and saved it is always true for that
>document.
>
>Rob
>
>-Original Message-
>
>I seem to remember some way of turning the smart spaces option off by
>default in FrameMaker with the ini file. But I can't seem to find out
>how to do it. Is it possible? Or am I just dreaming?
> 
>Rob