RE: Structured FM and DITA
I've got a paper and some sample docs to get you started. A bit of a DITA backgrounder is available in a DITA primer. I also have sample chapters from my FrameMaker book that walks you through using FM and DITA. Start here: http://www.publishingsmarter.com/resources/books-and-articles Hope that this helps. Please let me know how it works out for you. Bernard Bernard Aschwanden Publishing Smarter www.publishingsmarter.com Write Less. Write Better. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: January-26-11 16:36 To: Framers Subject: Structured FM and DITA Hi everyone, Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured, and I realize that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to structured FM, etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of good, introductory reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not have to be Frame-specific, I'm interested in understanding a bit about the whole concept and mechanism. Thank you kindly, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bern...@publishingsmarter.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernard%40publishingsmarter.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Structured FM and DITA
I've got a paper and some sample docs to get you started. A bit of a DITA backgrounder is available in a DITA primer. I also have sample chapters from my FrameMaker book that walks you through using FM and DITA. Start here: http://www.publishingsmarter.com/resources/books-and-articles Hope that this helps. Please let me know how it works out for you. Bernard Bernard Aschwanden Publishing Smarter www.publishingsmarter.com Write Less. Write Better. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of VLM TechSubs Sent: January-26-11 16:36 To: Framers Subject: Structured FM and DITA Hi everyone, Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured, and I realize that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to structured FM, etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of good, introductory reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not have to be Frame-specific, I'm interested in understanding a bit about the whole concept and mechanism. Thank you kindly, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bernard at publishingsmarter.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bernard%40publishingsmarter.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Structured FM and DITA
I would highly recommend Bernard's book "FrameMaker: A Hands-On Guide to Creating DITA Compliant Documents". David Creamer IDEAS Training & Consultation http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer for Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, InCopy, FrameMaker, Dreamweaver, Premiere, Captivate, GoLive, and PageMaker Authorized Quark Training Provider Enfocus PitStop, Markzware FlightCheck, & FileMaker Authorized Trainer > >I've got a paper and some sample docs to get you started. A bit of a DITA >backgrounder is available in a DITA primer. I also have >sample chapters from my FrameMaker book that walks you through using FM >and DITA. Start here: >http://www.publishingsmarter.com/resources/books-and-articles > >Hope that this helps. Please let me know how it works out for you. > >Bernard >
RE: Structured FM and DITA
Elchanan: I'll just quickly add that you can move to structured FrameMaker without using DITA. The relationship between the two is that structured FrameMaker supports XML (i.e., in FrameMaker, you can define your document like it is an XML file and optionally export it to XML), and DITA is a standardized XML definition (i.e., the structure is already defined for you; you work with the DITA file the same way you'd work with any structured document, but you have to follow the standardized hierarchy of elements, already-defined tags and attributes). So if you move to structured FrameMaker, you can define your own structure or you can use DITA. Fei Min Lorente -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:07 PM To: Framers; VLM TechSubs Subject: Re: Structured FM and DITA You'll probably get a tonne of advice, so I'll keep mine brief. I found this book really useful when I was getting started: Introduction to DITA: A User Guide to the Darwin Information Typing Architecture (http://www.comtech-serv.com/dita2.shtml#book). FrameMaker 9 handles DITA better than FrameMaker 8 (I think I saw you ask a question before about FM 8). I don't know if FM 10 has any advantages over FM 9 for DITA authoring. Finally, consider what your output needs are and what tool best suits your needs and budget. I've been using WebWorks ePublisher to create CHM help, Web help, and now PDFs from DITA. It handles DITA nicely. There are other tools, too, like Dita2Go and DITA Open Toolkit, but I don't know a lot about them. Nadine --- On Wed, 1/26/11, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: From: VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org Subject: Structured FM and DITA To: Framers Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 4:36 PM Hi everyone, Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured, and I realize that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to structured FM, etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of good, introductory reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not have to be Frame-specific, I'm interested in understanding a bit about the whole concept and mechanism. Thank you kindly, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.c a Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. m ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as feimin.lore...@onsemi.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/feimin.lorente%40ons emi.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Structured FM and DITA
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:36 PM, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured It's off the topic of your request, but could you tell us briefly about what got you thinking about making the move? -- Milan Davidović http://twitter.com/altmilan http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://ca.linkedin.com/in/milandavidovic ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Structured FM and DITA
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:36 PM, VLM TechSubs wrote: > Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured It's off the topic of your request, but could you tell us briefly about what got you thinking about making the move? -- Milan Davidovi? http://twitter.com/altmilan http://altmilan.blogspot.com http://ca.linkedin.com/in/milandavidovic
Structured FM and DITA
Hi everyone, Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured, and I realize that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to structured FM, etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of good, introductory reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not have to be Frame-specific, I'm interested in understanding a bit about the whole concept and mechanism. Thank you kindly, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Structured FM and DITA
You'll probably get a tonne of advice, so I'll keep mine brief. I found this book really useful when I was getting started: Introduction to DITA: A User Guide to the Darwin Information Typing Architecture (http://www.comtech-serv.com/dita2.shtml#book). FrameMaker 9 handles DITA better than FrameMaker 8 (I think I saw you ask a question before about FM 8). I don't know if FM 10 has any advantages over FM 9 for DITA authoring. Finally, consider what your output needs are and what tool best suits your needs and budget. I've been using WebWorks ePublisher to create CHM help, Web help, and now PDFs from DITA. It handles DITA nicely. There are other tools, too, like Dita2Go and DITA Open Toolkit, but I don't know a lot about them. Nadine --- On Wed, 1/26/11, VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote: From: VLM TechSubs techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org Subject: Structured FM and DITA To: Framers Framers@Lists.FrameUsers.com Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 4:36 PM Hi everyone, Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured, and I realize that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to structured FM, etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of good, introductory reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not have to be Frame-specific, I'm interested in understanding a bit about the whole concept and mechanism. Thank you kindly, Elchanan ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as generic...@yahoo.ca. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. m ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Structured FM and DITA
Hi everyone, Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to structured, and I realize that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to structured FM, etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of good, introductory reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not have to be Frame-specific, I'm interested in understanding a bit about the whole concept and mechanism. Thank you kindly, Elchanan
Structured FM and DITA
You'll probably get a tonne of advice, so I'll keep mine brief. I found this book really useful when I was getting started: Introduction to DITA: A User Guide to the Darwin Information Typing Architecture (http://www.comtech-serv.com/dita2.shtml#book). FrameMaker 9 handles DITA better than FrameMaker 8 (I think I saw you ask a question before about FM 8). I don't know if FM 10 has any advantages over FM 9 for DITA authoring. Finally, consider what your output needs are and what tool best suits your needs and budget. I've been using WebWorks ePublisher to create CHM help, Web help, and now PDFs from DITA. It handles DITA nicely. There are other tools, too, like Dita2Go and DITA Open Toolkit, but I don't know a lot about them. Nadine --- On Wed, 1/26/11, VLM TechSubs wrote: > From: VLM TechSubs > Subject: Structured FM and DITA > To: "Framers" > Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 4:36 PM > Hi everyone, > > Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to > structured, and I realize > that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to > structured FM, > etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of > good, introductory > reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not have > to be > Frame-specific, I'm interested in understanding a bit about > the whole > concept and mechanism. > > Thank you kindly, > Elchanan > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.ca > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > m >
Structured FM and DITA
Elchanan: I'll just quickly add that you can move to structured FrameMaker without using DITA. The relationship between the two is that structured FrameMaker supports XML (i.e., in FrameMaker, you can define your document like it is an XML file and optionally export it to XML), and DITA is a standardized XML definition (i.e., the structure is already defined for you; you work with the DITA file the same way you'd work with any structured document, but you have to follow the standardized hierarchy of elements, already-defined tags and attributes). So if you move to structured FrameMaker, you can define your own structure or you can use DITA. Fei Min Lorente -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Writer Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:07 PM To: Framers; VLM TechSubs Subject: Re: Structured FM and DITA You'll probably get a tonne of advice, so I'll keep mine brief. I found this book really useful when I was getting started: Introduction to DITA: A User Guide to the Darwin Information Typing Architecture (http://www.comtech-serv.com/dita2.shtml#book). FrameMaker 9 handles DITA better than FrameMaker 8 (I think I saw you ask a question before about FM 8). I don't know if FM 10 has any advantages over FM 9 for DITA authoring. Finally, consider what your output needs are and what tool best suits your needs and budget. I've been using WebWorks ePublisher to create CHM help, Web help, and now PDFs from DITA. It handles DITA nicely. There are other tools, too, like Dita2Go and DITA Open Toolkit, but I don't know a lot about them. Nadine --- On Wed, 1/26/11, VLM TechSubs wrote: > From: VLM TechSubs > Subject: Structured FM and DITA > To: "Framers" > Date: Wednesday, January 26, 2011, 4:36 PM > Hi everyone, > > Thinking here about moving from unstructured FM to > structured, and I realize > that I don't know what DITA even is, how it is related to > structured FM, > etc. I would be grateful for pointers in the direction of > good, introductory > reading in these topics, particularly DITA. Does not have > to be > Frame-specific, I'm interested in understanding a bit about > the whole > concept and mechanism. > > Thank you kindly, > Elchanan > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as generic668 at yahoo.ca. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/generic668%40yahoo.c a > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. > Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and > info. > m > ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as feimin.lorente at onsemi.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/feimin.lorente%40ons emi.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
