For professionals, InDesign. For casual use, LibreOffice Writer (or
that similar Microsoft app).
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 12:46 AM Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
>
> You said: If you need only a page layout program, don't buy FrameMaker,
> either.
> What would you suggest if you only need a page layout
day, August 16, 2021 1:46 PM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. <
> > framers@lists.frameusers.com>; Robert Lauriston
> > Subject: RE: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
> >
> > I have not tried Affinity [yet], but I recom
Actually, I found the ser no. to my FM2015 a couple of days ago and was
finally able to install it too. So now I am as happy (about these things)
as can be! (And don't need to g
But this thread has evolved into something very interesting, showing so
many problems with Adobe customer attitude.
om>; Robert Lauriston
> Subject: RE: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
>
> I have not tried Affinity [yet], but I recommend Design Pro X (the
> perpetual version is at www.magix.com) for page layout as an alternative
> to InDesign.
>
> I am not an InDesign user, so please t
Oops, sorry - the name is Designer Pro X.
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-Original Message-
From: Syed Zaeem Hosain
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 1:46 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
; Robert Lauriston
Subject: RE: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
I have not tried Affinity [yet
Affinity!
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-Original Message-
From: Framers On
Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2021 12:46 AM
To: Robert Lauriston ; Framers List
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
You said: If you need only a page layout program, don't buy FrameMaker,
either.
What
You said: If you need only a page layout program, don't buy FrameMaker,
either.
What would you suggest if you only need a page layout program,
Affinity?
On 12-Aug-21 10:47 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
If you don't need a help authoring tool, don't buy Flare. Flare's
expensive
Thanks, Michael.
That did the trick! FM2015 (FM 13) up and running on my new computer!
Enjoy a virtual pizza on me!
Best regards,
Bodvar
mið., 11. ágú. 2021 kl. 22:01 skrifaði Michael Heine :
> Licensecrawler (www dot klinzmann dot name) will read out your Adobe
> licenses -- if that's the
If you don't need a help authoring tool, don't buy Flare. Flare's
expensive because it takes a lot of development to keep up with
customers' evolving requirements.
If you need only a page layout program, don't buy FrameMaker, either.
Its relatively high cost reflects its additional features such
Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 5:42 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
Ten years ago I found that Flare did an excellent job of "round-tripping" a
FrameMaker book. There was
Such a simple and clean source doc-set in Word might be as trouble-free.
Flare prices remind me of FM-UNIX prices of the 1990s.
Affinity offers ten-day free trials.
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:42 PM Robert Lauriston
wrote:
> Ten years ago I found that Flare did an excellent job of
>
Ten years ago I found that Flare did an excellent job of
"round-tripping" a FrameMaker book. There was one minor thing that got
lost, they might have fixed that since. The book in question was very
clean, absolutely consistent formatting with short, minimalist sets of
paragraph and character tags
Round-tripping is just a bad plan.
Cheers,
Sean
-Original Message-
From: Framers
On Behalf Of Peter Gold
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:27 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
...
Thinking about
...
Thinking about the alternate routes through Affinity Publisher and InDesign
moved me to try this web search query: "affinity publisher compatibility
with other application file formats"
Some interesting results abide there. Marxware has some conversion tools,
as well as links to some
Acrobat 11 Pro here.
-Original Message-
From: Framers
On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 7:12 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
I still use Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 on my current
I still use Adobe Acrobat Standard 8 on my current computer, which is
running 64-bit Windows 10.
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the online registration, but it's step 1.
Cheers,
Mike
On 11.8.2021 16:02, framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com wrote:
Actually, on my old laptop I have
No, it is not possible to buy from Adobe. There are resellers from whom you can
buy a standalone FM2019 license.
TVB
Sent from my iPhone. Pardon the typos.
> On Aug 11, 2021, at 2:15 PM, Shalom Bresticker
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Do I understand from all of this that FrameMaker is no longer
> Do I understand from all of this that FrameMaker is no longer sold *at all* as
a stand-alone product (ie, subscription method only)?
My understanding is that it is still possible to buy a permanent license for FM
2019, which is the last version that runs on Windows 7.
That is what an Adobe
using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
He was referring to the recent two-revs-back upgrade price: essentially a full
new license.
I am old school perhaps, but I _absolutely_ do not like subscription license
models for software. The phrase "
Subject: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
Hello all you great people!
Sorry for the (Adobe) rant.
Due to my laptop's old age I found myself needing a new pc, a desktop this
time. All is well with everything but Adobe FM. I recently tried to install my
FM12 which I had lost any info about, and got
On
Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 2:54 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
Ummm, how does $29.95/month or $359.88/year (with the generous 0% prepayment
discount...) translate into "a gr
; as
> > an early adopter of FM (version 1.3, as I recall, on a Sun 3/50 back in
> > 1988), I have earned the right a bit, I hope!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers aeris@lists.frameusers.com>
> > On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> > Sent:
iling list ... I feel that as
> an early adopter of FM (version 1.3, as I recall, on a Sun 3/50 back in
> 1988), I have earned the right a bit, I hope!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
>
Nope, as of FM2020, it's subscription-only; no perpetual licenses.
From: Framers
on behalf
of A Craig
Sent: August 11, 2021 12:52 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker, software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
Do I
if you can get a copy at student rates.
From: "Robert Lauriston"
To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker, software."
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August, 2021 18:09:49
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
MadCap Flare does a great job of importing F
MadCap Flare does a great job of importing FrameMaker files. I'm not a
big fan of it since it's installed single-user Windows software, but
it's a very powerful tool that can do almost everything FrameMaker
can, usually better, and a lot more besides.
If you use FrameMaker only for page layout,
--
> > From: Framers aeris....@lists.frameusers.com>
> > On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
> > To: framers
> > Subject: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
> >
> > Hello all you great people!
> >
> > Sorry f
list ... I feel that as
> an early adopter of FM (version 1.3, as I recall, on a Sun 3/50 back in
> 1988), I have earned the right a bit, I hope!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
>
in
> > 1988), I have earned the right a bit, I hope!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers aeris@lists.frameusers.com>
> > On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
> > To: framers
> > Subject:
2021 4:58 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
My turn. And I know that I'm not alone with what I describe below.
So now that I am doing occasional contract work with FM10, I fear that at some
time, I also will need
hase price in the
pre-subscription days.
-FR
From: Framers on
behalf of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 4:58 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
My turn. And I know that I'm
of FM (version 1.3, as I recall, on a Sun 3/50 back in
> 1988), I have earned the right a bit, I hope!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
> To: framers
> Subject: [Framers] FM 10 on a n
Original Message-
> From: Framers
> On Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
> To: framers
> Subject: [Framers] FM 10 on a new computer.
>
> Hello all you great people!
>
> Sorry for the (Adobe) rant.
>
> Due to my laptop'
And yes, I'm sure they were talking about Master pages, but that's not
really what Master pages do, either!
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 4:08 PM Lin Sims wrote:
> The information on the Auto Save option is incorrect, and I've never heard
> of the "Page Master" tool. Admittedly I haven't used FM as
The information on the Auto Save option is incorrect, and I've never heard
of the "Page Master" tool. Admittedly I haven't used FM as long as you
have, Syed, but I've used it since 5.5.6 and I have never seen a feature
that lets you "merge all your document into one page".
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at
Sorry to hear of your bad experience, Bodvar. Good to hear that Adobe's
tech support agent did work hard to resolve the problems initially. Hoping
that if/when the expected failures occur, you'll get similar expert
assistance from Adobe.
I may not be the only one who's interested to hear of your
list ... I feel that as an
early adopter of FM (version 1.3, as I recall, on a Sun 3/50 back in 1988), I
have earned the right a bit, I hope!
-Original Message-
From: Framers On
Behalf Of Böðvar Björgvinsson
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 12:44 PM
To: framers
Subject: [Framers] FM 10
Hello all you great people!
Sorry for the (Adobe) rant.
Due to my laptop's old age I found myself needing a new pc, a desktop this
time. All is well with everything but Adobe FM. I recently tried to install
my FM12 which I had lost any info about, and got a categorical No Go from
Adobe Support
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