RE: FM9: Unable to create PDF when Convert CMYK Colors to RGB is not selected

2009-12-10 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Scott wrote: However, why didn't Microsoft make it easy on everyone in the first place, since on inception of their OS printing was the major output? It's not my business to defend or accuse Microsoft or Adobe in any way. My business is to speak out loud that CMYK and SPOT color support in

RE: FM9: Unable to create PDF when Convert CMYK Colors to RGB is not selected

2009-12-10 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Hmmm ... For some reason the link I provided was broken. Try this instead: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd162843(VS.85).aspx which essentially is the same. If that doesn't work for you please try Google and paste the following line in the input box: Printer Escape Functions MSDN

FM9: Unable to create PDF when "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" is not selected

2009-12-10 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Scott wrote: < However, why didn't Microsoft make it easy on everyone in the first place, since on inception of their OS printing was the major output? > It's not my business to defend or accuse Microsoft or Adobe in any way. My business is to speak out loud that CMYK and SPOT color support

FM9: Unable to create PDF when "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" is not selected

2009-12-10 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Hmmm ... For some reason the link I provided was broken. Try this instead: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd162843(VS.85).aspx which essentially is the same. If that doesn't work for you please try Google and paste the following line in the input box: "Printer Escape Functions" MSDN

FM9: Unable to create PDF when Convert CMYK Colors to RGB is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi group Has anyone seen the following problem: Using FM9p250, save the FM file as PDF: - With the option Convert CMYK Colors to RGB selected, the PDF gets generated but the clipping path in EPS graphics is gone (the bounding box gets a white background even when the Fill pattern is

RE: FM9: Unable to create PDF when Convert CMYK Colors to RGB is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Unfortunately the Save As PDF function in FM9 has some problems with the font handling engine. Sometimes this function substitutes fonts that actually are available on the system, and sometimes other weird things happen. Also unfortunately, this is the only way to preserve CMYK colours in placed

Re: FM9: Unable to create PDF when Convert CMYK Colors to RGB is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread quills
Again we are hoist upon Microsofts petard. Microsoft has NEVER been able to print CMYK. Only Linux and the Mac platform have handled it well. Scott On 12/9/09 9:33 AM, Jacob Schäffer wrote: Unfortunately the Save As PDF function in FM9 has some problems with the font handling engine.

Re: FM9: Unable to create PDF when Convert CMYK Colors to RGB is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Jacob Thank you for your reply. I don't want to select the Convert CMYK Colors to RGB option. In fact, I never want to convert colors, because I think that converting colors gives unpredictable results and is therefore a bad idea. Remapping colors, using tools like Enfocus PitStop, works

RE: FM9: Unable to create PDF when Convert CMYK Colors to RGB is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Yves Barbion wrote: I don't want to select the Convert CMYK Colors to RGB option. In fact, I never want to convert colors ... I agree. However, remapping with what-ever tool is also lossy, but NOT as lossy as the Windows FrameMaker generated CMYK - RGB conversion (which generates highly

Re: FM9: Unable to create PDF when Convert CMYK Colors to RGB is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread quills
Technically true, Jacob. However, why didn't Microsoft make it easy on everyone in the first place, since on inception of their OS printing was the major output? Why in the past 20 years didn't they correct their arrogant assumption that RGB was the only color output scheme that was needed? A

FM9: Unable to create PDF when "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi group Has anyone seen the following problem: Using FM9p250, save the FM file as PDF: - With the option "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" selected, the PDF gets generated but the clipping path in EPS graphics is gone (the bounding box gets a white background even when the Fill pattern is

FM9: Unable to create PDF when "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Unfortunately the "Save As PDF" function in FM9 has some problems with the font handling engine. Sometimes this function substitutes fonts that actually are available on the system, and sometimes other weird things happen. Also unfortunately, this is the only way to preserve CMYK colours in

FM9: Unable to create PDF when "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread qui...@airmail.net
Again we are hoist upon Microsofts petard. Microsoft has NEVER been able to print CMYK. Only Linux and the Mac platform have handled it well. Scott On 12/9/09 9:33 AM, Jacob Sch?ffer wrote: > Unfortunately the "Save As PDF" function in FM9 has some problems with the > font handling engine.

FM9: Unable to create PDF when "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Jacob Thank you for your reply. I don't want to select the "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" option. In fact, I never want to "convert" colors, because I think that "converting colors" gives unpredictable results and is therefore a bad idea. Remapping colors, using tools like Enfocus PitStop,

FM9: Unable to create PDF when "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Yves Barbion wrote: < I don't want to select the "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" option. In fact, I never want to "convert" colors ... > I agree. However, remapping with what-ever tool is also lossy, but NOT as lossy as the Windows FrameMaker generated CMYK -> RGB conversion (which generates

FM9: Unable to create PDF when "Convert CMYK Colors to RGB" is not selected

2009-12-09 Thread qui...@airmail.net
Technically true, Jacob. However, why didn't Microsoft make it easy on everyone in the first place, since on inception of their OS printing was the major output? Why in the past 20 years didn't they correct their arrogant assumption that RGB was the only color output scheme that was needed? A