How to set up a Running H/F to call a paratag from a previous file

[Carol J. Elkins]

The Running H/F in my master page calls for a paratag  like this:
Running H/F 2 $paratext[H2 SubTitle]

I have child pages (each a separate file) that use that same master 
page, but because they are child pages, they don't have their own [H2 
Sub Title] paratag anywhere in the file. I want that Running H/F to 
locate the last instance of the paratag, which would be on the parent 
page, which is in a previous file. In other words, I want it to look 
backward instead of forward.


You can tell Frame to look backward for a paratag in the same file, 
but I can't find any mention in Frame11 Help about looking backward 
for a paratag in a previous file.


Is this even possible? If so, how do I revise the Running H/F 2 call 
to that paratag so that it works as described?


If not, then I know I will need to move all of the child pages into 
the same file as the parent page that contains the [H2 Sub Title] 
paratag. But there are hundreds of them and I'd rather not.


Carol

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RE: How to set up a Running H/F to call a paratag from a previous file

[Combs, Richard]

Carol J. Elkins wrote:
 
 The Running H/F in my master page calls for a paratag  like this:
 Running H/F 2 $paratext[H2 SubTitle]
 
 I have child pages (each a separate file) that use that same master
 page, but because they are child pages, they don't have their own [H2
 Sub Title] paratag anywhere in the file. I want that Running H/F to
 locate the last instance of the paratag, which would be on the parent
 page, which is in a previous file. In other words, I want it to look
 backward instead of forward.
 
 You can tell Frame to look backward for a paratag in the same file,
 but I can't find any mention in Frame11 Help about looking backward
 for a paratag in a previous file.
 
 Is this even possible? If so, how do I revise the Running H/F 2 call
 to that paratag so that it works as described?
 
 If not, then I know I will need to move all of the child pages into
 the same file as the parent page that contains the [H2 Sub Title]
 paratag. But there are hundreds of them and I'd rather not.

As Matt suggested, you can fake it with xrefs (but note that they'll be 
hyperlinks) or define a user variable for it. Alternatively, if each child 
page is in its own file, you could import its contents (text flow) into the 
main file as a text inset. Of course, that might initially be about as much 
work as moving the child pages into the main file. 

I guess the best approach depends on why the content in these child pages was 
put into separate files to begin with (and whether that reason is still 
pertinent). 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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RE: How to set up a Running H/F to call a paratag from a previous file

[Carol J. Elkins]

The reason that the child pages are in individual files is because 
the client isn't sure yet how he wants to organize the content of the 
book. Hundreds of diagrams that could be grouped in various ways. To 
remain flexible, it made sense to create individual files that I 
could organize at the book level.


Xrefs and variables won't work in this situation because I really 
want this automated. If I organize a set of child pages one way at 
first and define a variable representing the parent, if the child 
moves to a different parent, then I'll have to change perhaps dozens 
of variables. I'll see what Rick Quatro can come up with in terms of scripting.


Thanks everyone for such speedy responses. I was twiddling thumbs for 
a whole 5 minutes before your ideas came back to me. You are great!


Carol

At 04:32 PM 5/23/2013, Combs, Richard wrote:
As Matt suggested, you can fake it with xrefs (but note that they'll 
be hyperlinks) or define a user variable for it. Alternatively, if 
each child page is in its own file, you could import its contents 
(text flow) into the main file as a text inset. Of course, that 
might initially be about as much work as moving the child pages 
into the main file.


I guess the best approach depends on why the content in these child 
pages was put into separate files to begin with (and whether that 
reason is still pertinent).


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How to set up a Running H/F to call a paratag from a previous file

[Carol J. Elkins]

The Running H/F in my master page calls for a paratag  like this:


I have child pages (each a separate file) that use that same master 
page, but because they are child pages, they don't have their own [H2 
Sub Title] paratag anywhere in the file. I want that Running H/F to 
locate the last instance of the paratag, which would be on the parent 
page, which is in a previous file. In other words, I want it to look 
backward instead of forward.

You can tell Frame to look backward for a paratag in the same file, 
but I can't find any mention in Frame11 Help about looking backward 
for a paratag in a previous file.

Is this even possible? If so, how do I revise the Running H/F 2 call 
to that paratag so that it works as described?

If not, then I know I will need to move all of the child pages into 
the same file as the parent page that contains the [H2 Sub Title] 
paratag. But there are hundreds of them and I'd rather not.

Carol

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Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC
Making Information Understandable
Phone: 719-948-3773
mailto:celkins at awrittenword.com
http://www.awrittenword.com
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How to set up a Running H/F to call a paratag from a previous file

[Matt Sullivan]

You can consider xrefs and variables to get this done.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan 
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On May 23, 2013, at 3:11 PM, "Carol J. Elkins"  
wrote:

> 
> I have child pages (each a separate file) that use that same master page, but 
> because they are child pages, they don't have their own [H2 Sub Title] 
> paratag anywhere in the file. I want that Running H/F to locate the last 
> instance of the paratag, which would be on the parent page, which is in a 
> previous file. In other words, I want it to look backward instead of forward.
> 
> You can tell Frame to look backward for a paratag in the same file

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How to set up a Running H/F to call a paratag from a previous file

[Combs, Richard]

Carol J. Elkins wrote:

> The Running H/F in my master page calls for a paratag  like this:
> 
> 
> I have child pages (each a separate file) that use that same master
> page, but because they are child pages, they don't have their own [H2
> Sub Title] paratag anywhere in the file. I want that Running H/F to
> locate the last instance of the paratag, which would be on the parent
> page, which is in a previous file. In other words, I want it to look
> backward instead of forward.
> 
> You can tell Frame to look backward for a paratag in the same file,
> but I can't find any mention in Frame11 Help about looking backward
> for a paratag in a previous file.
> 
> Is this even possible? If so, how do I revise the Running H/F 2 call
> to that paratag so that it works as described?
> 
> If not, then I know I will need to move all of the child pages into
> the same file as the parent page that contains the [H2 Sub Title]
> paratag. But there are hundreds of them and I'd rather not.

As Matt suggested, you can fake it with xrefs (but note that they'll be 
hyperlinks) or define a user variable for it. Alternatively, if each "child 
page" is in its own file, you could import its contents (text flow) into the 
main file as a text inset. Of course, that might initially be about as much 
work as moving the "child pages" into the main file. 

I guess the best approach depends on why the content in these "child pages" was 
put into separate files to begin with (and whether that reason is still 
pertinent). 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--

How to set up a Running H/F to call a paratag from a previous file

[Carol J. Elkins]

The reason that the child pages are in individual files is because 
the client isn't sure yet how he wants to organize the content of the 
book. Hundreds of diagrams that could be grouped in various ways. To 
remain flexible, it made sense to create individual files that I 
could organize at the book level.

Xrefs and variables won't work in this situation because I really 
want this automated. If I organize a set of child pages one way at 
first and define a variable representing the "parent," if the child 
moves to a different parent, then I'll have to change perhaps dozens 
of variables. I'll see what Rick Quatro can come up with in terms of scripting.

Thanks everyone for such speedy responses. I was twiddling thumbs for 
a whole 5 minutes before your ideas came back to me. You are great!

Carol

At 04:32 PM 5/23/2013, Combs, Richard wrote:
>As Matt suggested, you can fake it with xrefs (but note that they'll 
>be hyperlinks) or define a user variable for it. Alternatively, if 
>each "child page" is in its own file, you could import its contents 
>(text flow) into the main file as a text inset. Of course, that 
>might initially be about as much work as moving the "child pages" 
>into the main file.
>
>I guess the best approach depends on why the content in these "child 
>pages" was put into separate files to begin with (and whether that 
>reason is still pertinent).

How to set up a Running H/F to call a paratag from a previous file

[gr...@hedgewizard.net]

All I can think of is to use a crossreference or a variable. Not as easily
maintained, though.

Grant

> On May 23, 2013 at 4:11 PM "Carol J. Elkins"  
> wrote:
>
>
> The Running H/F in my master page calls for a paratag like this:
> 
>
> I have child pages (each a separate file) that use that same master
> page, but because they are child pages, they don't have their own [H2
> Sub Title] paratag anywhere in the file. I want that Running H/F to
> locate the last instance of the paratag, which would be on the parent
> page, which is in a previous file. In other words, I want it to look
> backward instead of forward.
>
> You can tell Frame to look backward for a paratag in the same file,
> but I can't find any mention in Frame11 Help about looking backward
> for a paratag in a previous file.
>
> Is this even possible? If so, how do I revise the Running H/F 2 call
> to that paratag so that it works as described?
>
> If not, then I know I will need to move all of the child pages into
> the same file as the parent page that contains the [H2 Sub Title]
> paratag. But there are hundreds of them and I'd rather not.
>
> Carol
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