Index of Scripture References
Hello All I have a document that contains Bible references as footnotes (e.g. Romans 3:12). I'd like to construct an Index of Scripture References at the end of the book, listing the references in biblical order rather than alphabetical, but this presents problems for the sort order. Some widely spaced books start with the same letter (e.g. Ruth and Romans), while others start with a number (e.g. 1 Samuel, 2 Corinthians). My assumption is to use an index of markers. On the reference page I've been playing with the group titles (removed 'em) and the Sort Order ($numerics, etc.). I've also tried setting the sort order within the marker itself using the [aaa] idea. However, no progress. I see such indexes in published books and can't imagine they are created and maintained by hand. Any ideas? I'm using FM 7.1. Thanks. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Index of Scripture References
Hi Roger, You should be able to change the sort order using the bracketed sort text. You could set a numeric value for each of the biblical books, depending on their placement in the Bible. For example, Romans 3:12 could be [45003012], where 45 is the book number, 003 is the chapter, and 012 is the verse. Notice that the chapters and verses are padded out to 3 characters to accommodate, for example, Psalm 119:105. Books are padded to 2 characters, so Genesis 1:1 would be [01001001]. To make this practical, you could use FrameScript to read the references in the markers and add the appropriate bracketed text to the end of each marker. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. r...@frameexpert.com 585-659-8267 Hello All I have a document that contains Bible references as footnotes (e.g. Romans 3:12). I'd like to construct an Index of Scripture References at the end of the book, listing the references in biblical order rather than alphabetical, but this presents problems for the sort order. Some widely spaced books start with the same letter (e.g. Ruth and Romans), while others start with a number (e.g. 1 Samuel, 2 Corinthians). My assumption is to use an index of markers. On the reference page I've been playing with the group titles (removed 'em) and the Sort Order ($numerics, etc.). I've also tried setting the sort order within the marker itself using the [aaa] idea. However, no progress. I see such indexes in published books and can't imagine they are created and maintained by hand. Any ideas? I'm using FM 7.1. Thanks. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Index of Scripture References
Specifying the sort using the [aaa] should work. I have used this a number of times. Z ** Ann Zdunczyk President a2z Publishing, Inc. Language Layout, Translation Consulting, Template Creation Phone: (336)922-1271 Fax: (888)523-2028 Cell: (336)456-4493 Cell 2:(336)655-4783 http://www.a2z-pub.com ** -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shuttleworth, Roger Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:19 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Index of Scripture References Hello All I have a document that contains Bible references as footnotes (e.g. Romans 3:12). I'd like to construct an Index of Scripture References at the end of the book, listing the references in biblical order rather than alphabetical, but this presents problems for the sort order. Some widely spaced books start with the same letter (e.g. Ruth and Romans), while others start with a number (e.g. 1 Samuel, 2 Corinthians). My assumption is to use an index of markers. On the reference page I've been playing with the group titles (removed 'em) and the Sort Order ($numerics, etc.). I've also tried setting the sort order within the marker itself using the [aaa] idea. However, no progress. I see such indexes in published books and can't imagine they are created and maintained by hand. Any ideas? I'm using FM 7.1. Thanks. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as azdunc...@triad.rr.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/azdunczyk%40triad.rr.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Index of Scripture References
Roger, The first thing to realize is that many published books have indexes that were compiled by a professional indexer, working from galleys and using a dedicated indexing software tool like CINDEX or SKY Index rather than one that is built from embedded index codes in the authoring tool. But having said that, you should be able to accomplish what you seek to do using the system that Rick Quatro outlined. -FR Subject: Index of Scripture References Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:19:02 -0400 From: roger_shuttlewo...@tvworks.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Hello All I have a document that contains Bible references as footnotes (e.g. Romans 3:12). I'd like to construct an Index of Scripture References at the end of the book, listing the references in biblical order rather than alphabetical, but this presents problems for the sort order. Some widely spaced books start with the same letter (e.g. Ruth and Romans), while others start with a number (e.g. 1 Samuel, 2 Corinthians). My assumption is to use an index of markers. On the reference page I've been playing with the group titles (removed 'em) and the Sort Order ($numerics, etc.). I've also tried setting the sort order within the marker itself using the [aaa] idea. However, no progress. I see such indexes in published books and can't imagine they are created and maintained by hand. Any ideas? I'm using FM 7.1. Thanks. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Index of Scripture References
Hello All I have a document that contains Bible references as footnotes (e.g. Romans 3:12). I'd like to construct an Index of Scripture References at the end of the book, listing the references in biblical order rather than alphabetical, but this presents problems for the sort order. Some widely spaced books start with the same letter (e.g. Ruth and Romans), while others start with a number (e.g. 1 Samuel, 2 Corinthians). My assumption is to use an index of markers. On the reference page I've been playing with the group titles (removed 'em) and the Sort Order (<$numerics>, etc.). I've also tried setting the sort order within the marker itself using the [aaa] idea. However, no progress. I see such indexes in published books and can't imagine they are created and maintained by hand. Any ideas? I'm using FM 7.1. Thanks. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada
Index of Scripture References
Hi Roger, You should be able to change the sort order using the bracketed sort text. You could set a numeric value for each of the biblical books, depending on their placement in the Bible. For example, Romans 3:12 could be [45003012], where 45 is the book number, 003 is the chapter, and 012 is the verse. Notice that the chapters and verses are padded out to 3 characters to accommodate, for example, Psalm 119:105. Books are padded to 2 characters, so Genesis 1:1 would be [01001001]. To make this practical, you could use FrameScript to read the references in the markers and add the appropriate bracketed text to the end of each marker. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. rick at frameexpert.com 585-659-8267 Hello All I have a document that contains Bible references as footnotes (e.g. Romans 3:12). I'd like to construct an Index of Scripture References at the end of the book, listing the references in biblical order rather than alphabetical, but this presents problems for the sort order. Some widely spaced books start with the same letter (e.g. Ruth and Romans), while others start with a number (e.g. 1 Samuel, 2 Corinthians). My assumption is to use an index of markers. On the reference page I've been playing with the group titles (removed 'em) and the Sort Order (<$numerics>, etc.). I've also tried setting the sort order within the marker itself using the [aaa] idea. However, no progress. I see such indexes in published books and can't imagine they are created and maintained by hand. Any ideas? I'm using FM 7.1. Thanks. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada
Index of Scripture References
Specifying the sort using the [aaa] should work. I have used this a number of times. Z ** Ann Zdunczyk President a2z Publishing, Inc. Language Layout, Translation Consulting, & Template Creation Phone: (336)922-1271 Fax:?? (888)523-2028 Cell:? (336)456-4493 Cell 2:(336)655-4783 http://www.a2z-pub.com ** -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shuttleworth, Roger Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:19 To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Index of Scripture References Hello All I have a document that contains Bible references as footnotes (e.g. Romans 3:12). I'd like to construct an Index of Scripture References at the end of the book, listing the references in biblical order rather than alphabetical, but this presents problems for the sort order. Some widely spaced books start with the same letter (e.g. Ruth and Romans), while others start with a number (e.g. 1 Samuel, 2 Corinthians). My assumption is to use an index of markers. On the reference page I've been playing with the group titles (removed 'em) and the Sort Order (<$numerics>, etc.). I've also tried setting the sort order within the marker itself using the [aaa] idea. However, no progress. I see such indexes in published books and can't imagine they are created and maintained by hand. Any ideas? I'm using FM 7.1. Thanks. Roger Shuttleworth London, Canada ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as azdunczyk at triad.rr.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/azdunczyk%40triad.rr.com Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Index of Scripture References
Roger, The first thing to realize is that many published books have indexes that were compiled by a professional indexer, working from galleys and using a dedicated indexing software tool like CINDEX or SKY Index rather than one that is built from embedded index codes in the authoring tool. But having said that, you should be able to accomplish what you seek to do using the system that Rick Quatro outlined. -FR > Subject: Index of Scripture References > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:19:02 -0400 > From: Roger_Shuttleworth at tvworks.com > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > > Hello All > > > > I have a document that contains Bible references as footnotes (e.g. Romans > 3:12). I'd like to construct an Index of Scripture References at the end of > the book, listing the references in biblical order rather than alphabetical, > but this presents problems for the sort order. Some widely spaced books > start with the same letter (e.g. Ruth and Romans), while others start with a > number (e.g. 1 Samuel, 2 Corinthians). > > > > My assumption is to use an index of markers. On the reference page I've been > playing with the group titles (removed 'em) and the Sort Order > (<$numerics>, etc.). I've also tried setting the sort order within the marker > itself using the [aaa] idea. However, no progress. I see such indexes in > published books and can't imagine they are created and maintained by hand. > Any ideas? I'm using FM 7.1. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Roger Shuttleworth > > London, Canada > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
