Follow-up: Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-30 Thread Karen Robbins
Problem may lie buried in the layouts/master pages. Tested with a 
30-page file that was skipped during conversion. When all text from 
this file was copied to a new file that contained only default 
body/master/reference pages, and that file was added to the book, it 
converted correctly.


All files in the book share the same master and reference pages, 
paragraph styles, and character styles. All files begin with an 
AHead element. All other files (except the 600-pager) converted, 
including two that are larger than the 30-page file.


Any more thoughts on what in the template materials might be the culprit?

Thanks as always,

Karen Robbins
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RE: Follow-up: Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-30 Thread Combs, Richard
Karen Robbins wrote: 
 
 Problem may lie buried in the layouts/master pages. Tested with a
 30-page file that was skipped during conversion. When all text from
 this file was copied to a new file that contained only default
 body/master/reference pages, and that file was added to the book, it
 converted correctly.
 
 All files in the book share the same master and reference pages,
 paragraph styles, and character styles. All files begin with an
 AHead element. All other files (except the 600-pager) converted,
 including two that are larger than the 30-page file.
 
 Any more thoughts on what in the template materials might be the culprit?

Well, the tried and true troubleshooting technique is to add back one removed 
element at a time until you find the one that breaks things. Or add a group 
(like ref pages), and if that breaks things, start removing members of the 
group one at a time until it works again. The idea is to pinpoint the source of 
the problem. 

But before you do that -- I don't recall if you've already tried a MIF wash 
-- save the problem file as MIF, open that in FM, and then resave as FM. That's 
kind of a general cure-all for file corruption or weirdness. 


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Polycom, Inc.
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Follow-up: Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-30 Thread Karen Robbins
Problem may lie buried in the layouts/master pages. Tested with a 
30-page file that was skipped during conversion. When all text from 
this file was copied to a new file that contained only default 
body/master/reference pages, and that file was added to the book, it 
converted correctly.

All files in the book share the same master and reference pages, 
paragraph styles, and character styles. All files begin with an 
"AHead" element. All other files (except the 600-pager) converted, 
including two that are larger than the 30-page file.

Any more thoughts on what in the template materials might be the culprit?

Thanks as always,

Karen Robbins


Follow-up: Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-30 Thread Combs, Richard
Karen Robbins wrote: 

> Problem may lie buried in the layouts/master pages. Tested with a
> 30-page file that was skipped during conversion. When all text from
> this file was copied to a new file that contained only default
> body/master/reference pages, and that file was added to the book, it
> converted correctly.
> 
> All files in the book share the same master and reference pages,
> paragraph styles, and character styles. All files begin with an
> "AHead" element. All other files (except the 600-pager) converted,
> including two that are larger than the 30-page file.
> 
> Any more thoughts on what in the template materials might be the culprit?

Well, the tried and true troubleshooting technique is to add back one removed 
element at a time until you find the one that breaks things. Or add a group 
(like ref pages), and if that breaks things, start removing members of the 
group one at a time until it works again. The idea is to pinpoint the source of 
the problem. 

But before you do that -- I don't recall if you've already tried a "MIF wash" 
-- save the problem file as MIF, open that in FM, and then resave as FM. That's 
kind of a general cure-all for file corruption or weirdness. 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--









RE: Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-29 Thread Andre Russell (TT)
Quick question, does the larger file begin with a different element than
the other files in the book? If so, you may want to double-check the
mapping for that element. 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Karen Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:05 AM
To: Combs, Richard; Art Campbell
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Problem converting book to HTML

Art, Richard:

I have read a good portion of the user guide and am fascinated by 
Mif2Go, but it seems to require so much set-up for my project that it 
would have blown the production schedule. Two weeks of trials last 
year did not produce the results I needed.

I will check that reference pages are applied across all, could have 
missed one.

Why do I have one giant file in this project? Because I can. In the 
past I've done it both ways, and both have converted just fine. 
Broken up, it's harder to manage last page/first page copy breaks 
(there are no ends of chapters, it all flows together). Combined, you 
do have to wait for the app to chug thru it. (When Frame was a Mac 
app, that was never an issue.)

Much thanks,
Karen

At 7:28 PM -0700 6/28/10, Combs, Richard wrote:
Art Campbell wrote:

  Download the free eval version of MIF2Go and see if it works.
www.omsys.com

  Or, try cutting your massive file into more, smaller files and see
if that
  helps. I'm guessing it may be a resource issue and either your
system or
  Frame is choking on the big file.

I'll second both of Art's suggestions. Especially if you need only 
simple HTML, Mif2Go may come pretty close out of the box, with very 
little tweaking / learning curve needed.

But whether you try Mif2Go or stick with FM's HTML mapping, I'd 
strongly suggest rethinking that one humongous file. Why would you 
divide 50 pages up among 8 files and then put 600 pages in one file? 
You're just asking for resource issues, and it's just not necessary, 
no matter how your book is organized. Break that file up into more 
manageable pieces.

Oh, by the way -- you did import your updated reference pages from 
the first file to all the other files, including the big one, right?


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-29 Thread Andre Russell (TT)
Quick question, does the larger file begin with a different element than
the other files in the book? If so, you may want to double-check the
mapping for that element. 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Karen Robbins
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:05 AM
To: Combs, Richard; Art Campbell
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Problem converting book to HTML

Art, Richard:

I have read a good portion of the user guide and am fascinated by 
Mif2Go, but it seems to require so much set-up for my project that it 
would have blown the production schedule. Two weeks of trials last 
year did not produce the results I needed.

I will check that reference pages are applied across all, could have 
missed one.

Why do I have one giant file in this project? Because I can. In the 
past I've done it both ways, and both have converted just fine. 
Broken up, it's harder to manage last page/first page copy breaks 
(there are no ends of chapters, it all flows together). Combined, you 
do have to wait for the app to chug thru it. (When Frame was a Mac 
app, that was never an issue.)

Much thanks,
Karen

At 7:28 PM -0700 6/28/10, Combs, Richard wrote:
>Art Campbell wrote:
>
>>  Download the free eval version of MIF2Go and see if it works.
www.omsys.com
>>
>>  Or, try cutting your massive file into more, smaller files and see
if that
>>  helps. I'm guessing it may be a resource issue and either your
system or
>>  Frame is choking on the big file.
>
>I'll second both of Art's suggestions. Especially if you need only 
>simple HTML, Mif2Go may come pretty close out of the box, with very 
>little tweaking / learning curve needed.
>
>But whether you try Mif2Go or stick with FM's HTML mapping, I'd 
>strongly suggest rethinking that one humongous file. Why would you 
>divide 50 pages up among 8 files and then put 600 pages in one file? 
>You're just asking for resource issues, and it's just not necessary, 
>no matter how your book is organized. Break that file up into more 
>manageable pieces.
>
>Oh, by the way -- you did import your updated reference pages from 
>the first file to all the other files, including the big one, right?
>
>
>Richard G. Combs
>Senior Technical Writer
>Polycom, Inc.
>richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
>303-223-5111
>--
>rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
>303-903-6372
>--
>
>
>
>
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Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-28 Thread Karen Robbins

Hello Framers,

I am converting to html a 650-page book composed of 9 files. Although 
I love all the fancier tools out there, I am limited by budget, 
learning curve, and time to FrameMaker's (8) own html converter. 
Despite its limits, it has always worked--I need only simple output 
to which I apply CSS after the fact. I have done this successfully 
several times before.


I have updated my HTML and book mapping reference pages in the first 
file of the book. The conversion begins and generates about 40 html 
pages correctly, then skips the largest file (the 600-page one), and 
generates the last html file. If I attempt to convert the big file on 
its own, I get a blank html file.


No error messages appear. Frame appears to open and save each file as 
it reads them, including the big one. I have checked, and the big 
file does begin with the A flow. Any ideas on where else to look for 
problems, or some possible fixes?


Thanks very much,

Karen Robbins
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Re: Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-28 Thread Art Campbell
Download the free eval version of MIF2Go and see if it works. www.omsys.com

Or, try cutting your massive file into more, smaller files and see if that
helps. I'm guessing it may be a resource issue and either your system or
Frame is choking on the big file.

Art

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redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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  DoD 358


On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello Framers,

 I am converting to html a 650-page book composed of 9 files. Although I
 love all the fancier tools out there, I am limited by budget, learning
 curve, and time to FrameMaker's (8) own html converter. Despite its limits,
 it has always worked--I need only simple output to which I apply CSS after
 the fact. I have done this successfully several times before.

 I have updated my HTML and book mapping reference pages in the first file
 of the book. The conversion begins and generates about 40 html pages
 correctly, then skips the largest file (the 600-page one), and generates the
 last html file. If I attempt to convert the big file on its own, I get a
 blank html file.

 No error messages appear. Frame appears to open and save each file as it
 reads them, including the big one. I have checked, and the big file does
 begin with the A flow. Any ideas on where else to look for problems, or some
 possible fixes?

 Thanks very much,

 Karen Robbins
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RE: Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: 
 
 Download the free eval version of MIF2Go and see if it works. www.omsys.com
 
 Or, try cutting your massive file into more, smaller files and see if that
 helps. I'm guessing it may be a resource issue and either your system or
 Frame is choking on the big file.

I'll second both of Art's suggestions. Especially if you need only simple HTML, 
Mif2Go may come pretty close out of the box, with very little tweaking / 
learning curve needed. 

But whether you try Mif2Go or stick with FM's HTML mapping, I'd strongly 
suggest rethinking that one humongous file. Why would you divide 50 pages up 
among 8 files and then put 600 pages in one file? You're just asking for 
resource issues, and it's just not necessary, no matter how your book is 
organized. Break that file up into more manageable pieces. 

Oh, by the way -- you did import your updated reference pages from the first 
file to all the other files, including the big one, right? 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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RE: Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-28 Thread Karen Robbins

Art, Richard:

I have read a good portion of the user guide and am fascinated by 
Mif2Go, but it seems to require so much set-up for my project that it 
would have blown the production schedule. Two weeks of trials last 
year did not produce the results I needed.


I will check that reference pages are applied across all, could have 
missed one.


Why do I have one giant file in this project? Because I can. In the 
past I've done it both ways, and both have converted just fine. 
Broken up, it's harder to manage last page/first page copy breaks 
(there are no ends of chapters, it all flows together). Combined, you 
do have to wait for the app to chug thru it. (When Frame was a Mac 
app, that was never an issue.)


Much thanks,
Karen

At 7:28 PM -0700 6/28/10, Combs, Richard wrote:

Art Campbell wrote:


 Download the free eval version of MIF2Go and see if it works. www.omsys.com

 Or, try cutting your massive file into more, smaller files and see if that
 helps. I'm guessing it may be a resource issue and either your system or
 Frame is choking on the big file.


I'll second both of Art's suggestions. Especially if you need only 
simple HTML, Mif2Go may come pretty close out of the box, with very 
little tweaking / learning curve needed.


But whether you try Mif2Go or stick with FM's HTML mapping, I'd 
strongly suggest rethinking that one humongous file. Why would you 
divide 50 pages up among 8 files and then put 600 pages in one file? 
You're just asking for resource issues, and it's just not necessary, 
no matter how your book is organized. Break that file up into more 
manageable pieces.


Oh, by the way -- you did import your updated reference pages from 
the first file to all the other files, including the big one, right?



Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-28 Thread Karen Robbins
Hello Framers,

I am converting to html a 650-page book composed of 9 files. Although 
I love all the fancier tools out there, I am limited by budget, 
learning curve, and time to FrameMaker's (8) own html converter. 
Despite its limits, it has always worked--I need only simple output 
to which I apply CSS after the fact. I have done this successfully 
several times before.

I have updated my HTML and book mapping reference pages in the first 
file of the book. The conversion begins and generates about 40 html 
pages correctly, then skips the largest file (the 600-page one), and 
generates the last html file. If I attempt to convert the big file on 
its own, I get a blank html file.

No error messages appear. Frame appears to open and save each file as 
it reads them, including the big one. I have checked, and the big 
file does begin with the A flow. Any ideas on where else to look for 
problems, or some possible fixes?

Thanks very much,

Karen Robbins


Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-28 Thread Art Campbell
Download the free eval version of MIF2Go and see if it works. www.omsys.com

Or, try cutting your massive file into more, smaller files and see if that
helps. I'm guessing it may be a resource issue and either your system or
Frame is choking on the big file.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358


On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Karen Robbins wrote:

> Hello Framers,
>
> I am converting to html a 650-page book composed of 9 files. Although I
> love all the fancier tools out there, I am limited by budget, learning
> curve, and time to FrameMaker's (8) own html converter. Despite its limits,
> it has always worked--I need only simple output to which I apply CSS after
> the fact. I have done this successfully several times before.
>
> I have updated my HTML and book mapping reference pages in the first file
> of the book. The conversion begins and generates about 40 html pages
> correctly, then skips the largest file (the 600-page one), and generates the
> last html file. If I attempt to convert the big file on its own, I get a
> blank html file.
>
> No error messages appear. Frame appears to open and save each file as it
> reads them, including the big one. I have checked, and the big file does
> begin with the A flow. Any ideas on where else to look for problems, or some
> possible fixes?
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> Karen Robbins
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Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-28 Thread Combs, Richard
Art Campbell wrote: 

> Download the free eval version of MIF2Go and see if it works. www.omsys.com
> 
> Or, try cutting your massive file into more, smaller files and see if that
> helps. I'm guessing it may be a resource issue and either your system or
> Frame is choking on the big file.

I'll second both of Art's suggestions. Especially if you need only simple HTML, 
Mif2Go may come pretty close out of the box, with very little tweaking / 
learning curve needed. 

But whether you try Mif2Go or stick with FM's HTML mapping, I'd strongly 
suggest rethinking that one humongous file. Why would you divide 50 pages up 
among 8 files and then put 600 pages in one file? You're just asking for 
resource issues, and it's just not necessary, no matter how your book is 
organized. Break that file up into more manageable pieces. 

Oh, by the way -- you did import your updated reference pages from the first 
file to all the other files, including the big one, right? 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--








Problem converting book to HTML

2010-06-28 Thread Karen Robbins
Art, Richard:

I have read a good portion of the user guide and am fascinated by 
Mif2Go, but it seems to require so much set-up for my project that it 
would have blown the production schedule. Two weeks of trials last 
year did not produce the results I needed.

I will check that reference pages are applied across all, could have 
missed one.

Why do I have one giant file in this project? Because I can. In the 
past I've done it both ways, and both have converted just fine. 
Broken up, it's harder to manage last page/first page copy breaks 
(there are no ends of chapters, it all flows together). Combined, you 
do have to wait for the app to chug thru it. (When Frame was a Mac 
app, that was never an issue.)

Much thanks,
Karen

At 7:28 PM -0700 6/28/10, Combs, Richard wrote:
>Art Campbell wrote:
>
>>  Download the free eval version of MIF2Go and see if it works. www.omsys.com
>>
>>  Or, try cutting your massive file into more, smaller files and see if that
>>  helps. I'm guessing it may be a resource issue and either your system or
>>  Frame is choking on the big file.
>
>I'll second both of Art's suggestions. Especially if you need only 
>simple HTML, Mif2Go may come pretty close out of the box, with very 
>little tweaking / learning curve needed.
>
>But whether you try Mif2Go or stick with FM's HTML mapping, I'd 
>strongly suggest rethinking that one humongous file. Why would you 
>divide 50 pages up among 8 files and then put 600 pages in one file? 
>You're just asking for resource issues, and it's just not necessary, 
>no matter how your book is organized. Break that file up into more 
>manageable pieces.
>
>Oh, by the way -- you did import your updated reference pages from 
>the first file to all the other files, including the big one, right?
>
>
>Richard G. Combs
>Senior Technical Writer
>Polycom, Inc.
>richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
>303-223-5111
>--
>rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
>303-903-6372
>--
>
>
>
>
>
>