RE: Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Steven Miller
an electronic display, but that isn't stated precisely... S -Original Message- From: Kelly McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:21 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Questions about look and feel. OK, you've worn down my resistance and I must register

RE: Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Dan . Gallagher
It seems that the resolution on paper (no pixels) would be crisper than on screen. So to me the serif fonts would be too cluttery on screen. Cheers, Dan--Ft. Lauderdale Kelly, this is the best description I've seen so far on why serif fonts might be easier to read on the printed page. It

RE: Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
May I suggest that the native resolution of the reader's display device, the graphic card resolution setting, the display brightness and other user settings or choices regarding their CRT or LCD display has at least as much to do with the legibility, reader comfort and reader retention when

Re: Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Apropos of nothing, this applies to PowerPoint as well. On 5/12/08, Dennis Brunnenmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because you can do it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Dennis Brunnenmeyer Cedar Ridge Systems ___ You are currently

RE: Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Kelly McDaniel
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Miller Sent: 2008-05-12 13:21 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Questions about look and feel Kelly, this is the best description I've seen so far on why serif fonts might be easier to read on the printed page

RE: Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Kelly... The second sentence below is more or less true only for LCD displays. It is not true for CRT displays. The electron beam in a CRT cannot illuminate individual pictures on the CRT face. It merely brushes across them, through what is known as a shadow mask, with a not-perfectly-defined

RE: Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
In a very recent post, I included an unfortunate typographical error. The sentence below has been corrected. Dennis... *** At 12:41 PM 5/12/2008, Dennis Brunnenmeyer wrote: The electron beam in a CRT cannot

RE: Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Well, I did make the correction to the typo, but it seems as though this list server doesn't support features such as text strikeout, colored or bold text. What a shame. At any rate, THIS TIME the sentence reads correctly. I'll repeat it here for clarity; The electron beam in a CRT cannot

Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Steven Miller
an electronic display, but that isn't stated precisely... S -Original Message- From: Kelly McDaniel [mailto:kmcdan...@pavtech.com] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:21 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Questions about look and feel. OK, you've worn down my resistance and I must

Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread dan.gallag...@ametek.com
It seems that the resolution on paper (no pixels) would be crisper than on screen. So to me the serif fonts would be too cluttery on screen. Cheers, Dan--Ft. Lauderdale Kelly, this is the best description I've seen so far on why serif fonts might be easier to read on the printed page. It

Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
May I suggest that the native resolution of the reader's display device, the graphic card resolution setting, the display brightness and other user settings or choices regarding their CRT or LCD display has at least as much to do with the legibility, reader comfort and reader retention when

Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Deirdre Reagan
Apropos of nothing, this applies to PowerPoint as well. On 5/12/08, Dennis Brunnenmeyer wrote: > Just because you can do it doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. > > Dennis Brunnenmeyer > Cedar Ridge Systems

Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Kelly McDaniel
ginal Message- > From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steven Miller > Sent: 2008-05-12 13:21 > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Questions about look and feel > > Kelly, this is the best desc

Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
Kelly... The second sentence below is more or less true only for LCD displays. It is not true for CRT displays. The electron beam in a CRT cannot illuminate individual pictures on the CRT face. It merely "brushes" across them, through what is known as a shadow mask, with a

Questions about look and feel

2008-05-12 Thread Dennis Brunnenmeyer
In a very recent post, I included an unfortunate typographical error. The sentence below has been corrected. Dennis... *** At 12:41 PM 5/12/2008, Dennis Brunnenmeyer wrote: >The electron beam in a CRT cannot

RE: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-11 Thread Diane Gaskill
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dodd, Frank J Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:50 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Questions about look and feel. Thank you for the info. Very informative. Now I know why my eyes burn at the end of the day..its those damned rays! Where does

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-11 Thread Diane Gaskill
= -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Dodd, Frank J Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:50 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Questions about look and feel. Thank you for the i

RE: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-10 Thread Dodd, Frank J
- From: Kelly McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:21 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Questions about look and feel. OK, you've worn down my resistance and I must register my observations. Reading on the computer screen is different from reading a printed

Re: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Joel Wilhelm
I'd look at Apple documents and IBM documents to see some good examples. Both are online. Joel On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all. This is perhaps a bit of a vague set of questions, but I am interested in improving the look of our manuals and specifications

Re: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Stuart Rogers
Mike Wickham wrote: 2. Do people think that a Sans Serif font improves legibility for body text? Using a sans serif font for body text greatly reduces reader comprehension. Obtain a copy of Colin Wheildon's _Type and Layout: Are You Communicating or Just Making Pretty Shapes?_ The book

RE: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Kelly McDaniel
serif fonts are better for screen displays, but, I could be wrong...regards, Kelly. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: 2008-05-09 10:40 To: Mike Wickham Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Questions about

Re: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Peter Gold
If you read the excerpted pages on the Amazon listing, you'll get an idea of the focus of the book. My local library system doesn't have the book, and I'm not ready to buy in a rush, either. The conflicting arguments about what's best, are reminiscent of the which is the widow, which is the

Re: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Mike Wickham
In general, serif fonts are better for printed works. Sans serif fonts are better for screen displays, but, I could be wrong...regards, I agree. And would note that the Wheildon studies were done well before the advent of the Web, so the book has no comment about viewing text on screen. I

RE: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Syed.Hosain
In general, serif fonts are better for printed works. Sans serif fonts are better for screen displays, but, I could be wrong...regards, I agree. And would note that the Wheildon studies were done well before the advent of the Web, so the book has no comment about viewing text on screen. I

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Joel Wilhelm
I'd look at Apple documents and IBM documents to see some good examples. Both are online. Joel On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 4:30 PM, wrote: > Hi, all. > > > > This is perhaps a bit of a vague set of questions, but I am interested > in improving the look of our manuals and specifications

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Stuart Rogers
Mike Wickham wrote: >> 2. Do people think that a Sans Serif font improves legibility for body >> text? > > Using a sans serif font for body text greatly reduces reader comprehension. > Obtain a copy of Colin Wheildon's _Type and Layout: Are You Communicating or > Just Making Pretty Shapes?_

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Kelly McDaniel
; To: Mike Wickham > Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Questions about look and feel. > > Mike Wickham wrote: > >> 2. Do people think that a Sans Serif font improves legibility for body > >> text? > > > > Using a sans serif font for

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Peter Gold
If you read the excerpted pages on the Amazon listing, you'll get an idea of the focus of the book. My local library system doesn't have the book, and I'm not ready to buy in a rush, either. The conflicting arguments about what's "best," are reminiscent of the "which is the widow, which is the

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Mike Wickham
> In general, serif fonts are "better" for printed works. Sans serif fonts > are "better" for screen displays, but, I could be wrong...regards, I agree. And would note that the Wheildon studies were done well before the advent of the Web, so the book has no comment about viewing text on screen.

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
> > In general, serif fonts are "better" for printed works. Sans serif fonts > > are "better" for screen displays, but, I could be wrong...regards, > > I agree. And would note that the Wheildon studies were done well before the > advent of the Web, so the book has no comment about viewing text on

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-09 Thread Dodd, Frank J
- From: Kelly McDaniel [mailto:kmcdan...@pavtech.com] Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:21 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Questions about look and feel. OK, you've worn down my resistance and I must register my observations. Reading on the computer screen is different from reading

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-08 Thread Syed.Hosain
Hi, all. This is perhaps a bit of a vague set of questions, but I am interested in improving the look of our manuals and specifications documentation and would like to see what others are doing in this regard. 1. Specifically, I am working on various manuals for our software API's as well

Re: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-08 Thread Mike Wickham
2. Do people think that a Sans Serif font improves legibility for body text? Using a sans serif font for body text greatly reduces reader comprehension. Obtain a copy of Colin Wheildon's _Type and Layout: Are You Communicating or Just Making Pretty Shapes?_ The book contains actual studies

RE: Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-08 Thread Syed.Hosain
Thanks for the comments and the book reference, Mike! I will get a copy ... Z -Original Message- From: Mike Wickham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 3:10 PM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]); framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Questions about

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-08 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Hi, all. This is perhaps a bit of a vague set of questions, but I am interested in improving the look of our manuals and specifications documentation and would like to see what others are doing in this regard. 1. Specifically, I am working on various manuals for our software API's as well

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-08 Thread Mike Wickham
> 2. Do people think that a Sans Serif font improves legibility for body > text? Using a sans serif font for body text greatly reduces reader comprehension. Obtain a copy of Colin Wheildon's _Type and Layout: Are You Communicating or Just Making Pretty Shapes?_ The book contains actual studies

Questions about look and feel.

2008-05-08 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
ameusers.com > Subject: Re: Questions about look and feel. > > > 2. Do people think that a Sans Serif font improves legibility for body > > text? > > Using a sans serif font for body text greatly reduces reader comprehension. > Obtain a copy of Colin Wheildon's _Type and Layout: