Re: Character switching FM/Distiller
Hi Penelope and Kenneth, Thank you for your help. I regret to be late in replying. Usually replies move the thread into the Inbox of my Gmail, but this time it did not. I just started looking in my Sent Mail because of the thread (header) Confused about hexadecimal Codes, and then I saw a couple of replies to my posting. Kenneth: You are absolutely right. This is not a Distiller problem. I would rather think this is has to do with the PS driver. The character prints as intended on any non-postscript printer, but on a PostScript printer and to PDF it prints incorrectly. Penelope: It would have set me on the right track if I had read it eariler. :-( But the Confused... thread lead me to study the online manual: FrameMaker Character Sets where I saw that there is no entry for the circled roman 2, which must be rated as a bug. However, the sans-serif circled 2 has an entry, as referred to in your reply. ADOBE: I think Adobe should really make a separate revision/upgrade to this part of FM for all versions 7.x at least, or if this is, as I am starting to suspect, a PostScript driver fault, to revise the Adobe PostScript driver, and have this solved in the FrameMaker.next (as Bernard prefers to call the next version). Thanks again and God bless, Bodvar On 5/16/07, Penelope Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bodvar, I can confirm this behavior on Win XP, FM 7.2, Acro 7.0. Do you recall the issue a number of years ago with Zapf Dingbats and Win2000/XP? To get the right characters to both display and print, you had to edit the PPD for the printer driver. I thought that might have something to do with your problematic circle-2, but I checked the PPD used by Distiller 7 and it doesn't even include the line that the fix told you to edit. Just out of curiosity, I tried this on a system with Win2000, FM 7.0, Acro 5.5, and got the same results, regardless of whether that PPD is edited, so it's not a new problem. Do you have to use the serif numbers? There are sans serif numbers in circles starting at ALT+0192; I tested to make sure ALT+0193 really produces a circle-2. BTW, you can see info about the aforementioned issue at http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.ef4dc73 Regards, Penelope = Penelope Perkins, Senior Technical Writer Synergex Sacramento, California [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:48 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Character switching FM/Distiller Hi all, I am trying to use Zapf Dingbats (that has never failed me!) to display and print a.o. the digit 2 in a ring. The FM shortcut is CTRL-q - (dash) or ALT-0173. The weird thing is that in both instances (using CTRL-q - (dash) and ALT-0173) or by copy - pasting from the character map, the character shows correctly in FM 7.2 but after distilling, the pdf shows the hand holding pen turning left. Both characters are using the dash, according to the character map, with the difference that the hand is hard dash and the 2 circled is the soft dash. Any ideas? Will I need to use the circled numbers from Wingdings 1? I have no problems with the circled 1. Bodvar Bjorgvinsson, Supervisor Publishing, Air Atlanta Icelandic. ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Character switching FM/Distiller
For what it is worth, there is no such thing as an Adobe PostScript Driver, at least for the current versions of Windows. The driver used for the Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance and for most printers supporting PostScript is in fact the PSCRIPT5 driver distributed and maintained by Microsoft as part of Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista. Although Adobe worked with Microsoft to originally develop that driver nearly eight years ago, Microsoft has had full responsibility for it ever since. The problems with FrameMaker's poor character set support cannot be readily solved without full Unicode support. You will NOT see such support in any FrameMaker 7.x (or earlier) versions. - Dov -Original Message- From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 3:39 AM To: Penelope Perkins Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Character switching FM/Distiller Hi Penelope and Kenneth, Thank you for your help. I regret to be late in replying. Usually replies move the thread into the Inbox of my Gmail, but this time it did not. I just started looking in my Sent Mail because of the thread (header) Confused about hexadecimal Codes, and then I saw a couple of replies to my posting. Kenneth: You are absolutely right. This is not a Distiller problem. I would rather think this is has to do with the PS driver. The character prints as intended on any non-postscript printer, but on a PostScript printer and to PDF it prints incorrectly. Penelope: It would have set me on the right track if I had read it eariler. :-( But the Confused... thread lead me to study the online manual: FrameMaker Character Sets where I saw that there is no entry for the circled roman 2, which must be rated as a bug. However, the sans-serif circled 2 has an entry, as referred to in your reply. ADOBE: I think Adobe should really make a separate revision/upgrade to this part of FM for all versions 7.x at least, or if this is, as I am starting to suspect, a PostScript driver fault, to revise the Adobe PostScript driver, and have this solved in the FrameMaker.next (as Bernard prefers to call the next version). Thanks again and God bless, Bodvar ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Character switching FM/Distiller
At 08:25 -0700 21/5/07, Dov Isaacs wrote: For what it is worth, there is no such thing as an Adobe PostScript Driver, at least for the current versions of Windows. The driver used for the Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance and for most printers supporting PostScript is in fact the PSCRIPT5 driver distributed and maintained by Microsoft as part of Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista. How very interesting. At least on our obsolete Mac FrameMaker installations we get a genoooiyne Adobe-branded Ps printer driver (or such is my interpretation of the fact that it's called 'AdobePS', shows an Adobe logo in the print dialog, and says 'Adobe Systems Incorporated' when you request file info on it). -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Character switching FM/Distiller
On 5/21/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For what it is worth, there is no such thing as an Adobe PostScript Driver, at least for the current versions of Windows. The driver used for the Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance and for most printers supporting PostScript is in fact the PSCRIPT5 driver distributed and maintained by Microsoft as part of Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista. Although Adobe worked with Microsoft to originally develop that driver nearly eight years ago, Microsoft has had full responsibility for it ever since. I stand corrected. :-) The problems with FrameMaker's poor character set support cannot be readily solved without full Unicode support. You will NOT see such support in any FrameMaker 7.x (or earlier) versions. - Dov Not too good news for FM 7 owners/users, Dov. Hopefully FM 8 will have the full Unicode support. Thanks for the info. Bodvar ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Character switching FM/Distiller
I did say Windows, not Macintosh, as well as the particular versions of Windows! - Dov -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:38 AM To: Dov Isaacs; Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; Penelope Perkins Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Character switching FM/Distiller At 08:25 -0700 21/5/07, Dov Isaacs wrote: For what it is worth, there is no such thing as an Adobe PostScript Driver, at least for the current versions of Windows. The driver used for the Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance and for most printers supporting PostScript is in fact the PSCRIPT5 driver distributed and maintained by Microsoft as part of Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, and Windows Vista. How very interesting. At least on our obsolete Mac FrameMaker installations we get a genoooiyne Adobe-branded Ps printer driver (or such is my interpretation of the fact that it's called 'AdobePS', shows an Adobe logo in the print dialog, and says 'Adobe Systems Incorporated' when you request file info on it). -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Character switching FM/Distiller
From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] The weird thing is that in both instances (using CTRL-q - (dash) and ALT-0173) or by copy - pasting from the character map, the character shows correctly in FM 7.2 but after distilling, the pdf shows the hand holding pen turning left. I'm not sure what's going on here, but I'm getting the same thing. I don't think it's Distiller, because I get the same thing if I print directly to a PS printer. I think it has something to do with how Frame treats the soft hyphen character. It's printing it as 002D, a regular hard hyphen. Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.