RE: Hypertext links not working
2013-08-26-01T12:50Z Tino – Thanks for your time, interest, and effort. Unfortunately, I failed to include in my original posting that I must produce _separate_ .pdf files. So, I still have the problem. After I print the book to separate files, I check a link while all the files are in [WatchedFolder] \ out. The links work great. Unfortunately, after I move “BEGIN_HERE.pdf” into its place and the other files into their place, the links don’t work. Please note that I’m posting this to the Frame-to-Acrobat list, too. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer From: Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de] Sent: 2013-08-23-Friday 11:31 To: Stamm, David-P45904; Framers Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, I just set up some files according to your description, with hyperlinks from each target-file to the others and back to the BEGIN_HERE.fm. Well, I could see no problems within the files or in the pdf... (My files are mainly local, but I also copied the folder to an external drive for the test.) Just to make sure: If TargetA is one example for a named hyperlink-destination in file targetA.fm (and so on...), and BEGIN is the named destination in the file BEGIN_HERE.fm, the link options look like this: Link from BEGIN_HERE.fm to the other files:gotolink ABC_DEF/targetA.fm:TargetA (...and so forth for B, C, and D) Link from targetA.fm to targetB.fm:gotolink targetB.fm:TargetB Link from targetA.fm back to BEGIN_HERE.fm: gotolink ..//BEGIN_HERE.fm:BEGIN I am enclosing my PDF, if you don't mind. Good luck... Tino H. Haida. Berlin dave.st...@gdc4s.com: 2013-08-22-04T20:00Z Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1 4 GB RAM 64-bit operating system FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 FrameMaker installed on workstation Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with corporate policy I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in one unstructured book. Here's how the files are arranged: NOTE: The .book file and all the target files are children of folder \Abc_Def. File BEGIN_HERE.fm is sibling of folder \Abc_Def and is to contain links to all four targets. Folder \Abc_Def File dir_Abc_Def.book File targetA.fm File targetB.fm File targetC.fm File targetD.fm File BEGIN_HERE.fm I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient of the informational product (portable document format files) wants it that way. I am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks to small amounts of text. Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly. My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink dir_About.fm). In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the time. In the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all. Dave Stamm Information Engineer ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working
2013-08-26-01T16:00Z Gail – Yes, I print the book all at once to only one watched folder. I’m using File | Print Book… Separate File for Each Docu. The arrangement of the .fm files is the same as arrangement of the .pdf files is to be. This is the first time in _years_ that I’ve needed to do this, so it’s mighty perplexing. I, too, customarily print large books including tables of contents and indices and such. Those files are in only one folder, and I use File Single File. Everything works great. But not with the source and output files in different folders . . .. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc. Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.™ Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509 dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/ This message and / or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S S.P. 1.8.6 and GD Corporate Policy 07-105 and are intended to be accessed only by authorized recipients. Use, storage and transmission are governed by General Dynamics and its policies. Contractual restrictions apply to third parties. Recipients should refer to the policies or contract to determine proper handling. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message. From: Gail Bergan [mailto:gail.ber...@bergan.com] Sent: 2013-08-26-Monday 11:25 To: Stamm, David-P45904 Cc: i...@heiko-haida.de; framers@lists.frameusers.com; frame2acro...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, Is your begin_here.pdf being written to the same watched folder? I use a similar setup when producing my larger books (a Start.pdf file that has a large TOC that links to the individual chapter files). But I must write ALL files at once, including Start, hyperlinked Index, and individual chapters, from the book file so that relative links are not broken. When I test them in the Out folder, everything works, and then I can move them en masse to wherever the final files will reside. If I try to write the Start file by itself, then the Index by itself, or the chapters, I find I have broken links. I hope I understood your problem correctly and this helps. Gail - Sent from my iPad - Gail R. Bergan, President Bergan et al., Inc. 413 So. Church St. Rockport, TX 78382 361-727-2343 www.bergan.com www.linkedin.com/pub/gail-bergan/30/aa6/391 On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:50 AM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote: 2013-08-26-01T12:50Z Tino – Thanks for your time, interest, and effort. Unfortunately, I failed to include in my original posting that I must produce _separate_ .pdf files. So, I still have the problem. After I print the book to separate files, I check a link while all the files are in [WatchedFolder] \ out. The links work great. Unfortunately, after I move “BEGIN_HERE.pdf” into its place and the other files into their place, the links don’t work. Please note that I’m posting this to the Frame-to-Acrobat list, too. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer From: Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de mailto:info%40heiko-haida.de ] Sent: 2013-08-23-Friday 11:31 To: Stamm, David-P45904; Framers Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, I just set up some files according to your description, with hyperlinks from each target-file to the others and back to the BEGIN_HERE.fm. Well, I could see no problems within the files or in the pdf... (My files are mainly local, but I also copied the folder to an external drive for the test.) Just to make sure: If TargetA is one example for a named hyperlink-destination in file targetA.fm (and so on...), and BEGIN is the named destination in the file BEGIN_HERE.fm, the link options look like this: Link from BEGIN_HERE.fm to the other files: gotolink ABC_DEF/targetA.fm:TargetA (...and so forth for B, C, and D) Link from targetA.fm to targetB.fm: gotolink targetB.fm:TargetB Link from targetA.fm back to BEGIN_HERE.fm: gotolink ..//BEGIN_HERE.fm:BEGIN I am enclosing my PDF, if you don't mind. Good luck... Tino H. Haida. Berlin dave.st...@gdc4s.com mailto:Dave.Stamm%40gdc4s.com : 2013
RE: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working
I think your problem may be in the use of a watched folder. The problem may be caused by the fact that the relative locations of the files in the watched folder is not the same as their relative locations in the directory structure of either the source directory or the target installation directory; the watched folder flattens the directory structure to a single level. I'd try two alternate approaches. 1) Create a watched folder directory structure that matches the source and target structures. 2) Print to the Adobe PDF virtual printer to create the PDF files directly in the target directory structure. -Fred Ridder Subject: RE: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:59:37 -0700 From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com To: gail.ber...@bergan.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com; frame2acro...@yahoogroups.com 2013-08-26-01T16:00Z Gail – Yes, I print the book all at once to only one watched folder. I’m using File | Print Book… Separate File for Each Docu. The arrangement of the .fm files is the same as arrangement of the .pdf files is to be. This is the first time in _years_ that I’ve needed to do this, so it’s mighty perplexing. I, too, customarily print large books including tables of contents and indices and such. Those files are in only one folder, and I use File Single File. Everything works great. But not with the source and output files in different folders . . .. Regards,Dave StammInformation EngineerGeneral Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.™Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; UStel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509dave.st...@gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/ This message and / or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S S.P. 1.8.6 and GD Corporate Policy 07-105 and are intended to be accessed only by authorized recipients. Use, storage and transmission are governed by General Dynamics and its policies. Contractual restrictions apply to third parties. Recipients should refer to the policies or contract to determine proper handling. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message. From: Gail Bergan [mailto:gail.ber...@bergan.com] Sent: 2013-08-26-Monday 11:25 To: Stamm, David-P45904 Cc: i...@heiko-haida.de; framers@lists.frameusers.com; frame2acro...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, Is your begin_here.pdf being written to the same watched folder? I use a similar setup when producing my larger books (a Start.pdf file that has a large TOC that links to the individual chapter files). But I must write ALL files at once, including Start, hyperlinked Index, and individual chapters, from the book file so that relative links are not broken. When I test them in the Out folder, everything works, and then I can move them en masse to wherever the final files will reside. If I try to write the Start file by itself, then the Index by itself, or the chapters, I find I have broken links. I hope I understood your problem correctly and this helps. Gail-Sent from my iPad-Gail R. Bergan, PresidentBergan et al., Inc.413 So. Church St.Rockport, TX 78382361-727-2343 www.bergan.comwww.linkedin.com/pub/gail-bergan/30/aa6/391 On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:50 AM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote: 2013-08-26-01T12:50Z Tino – Thanks for your time, interest, and effort. Unfortunately, I failed to include in my original posting that I must produce _separate_ .pdf files. So, I still have the problem. After I print the book to separate files, I check a link while all the files are in [WatchedFolder] \ out. The links work great. Unfortunately, after I move “BEGIN_HERE.pdf” into its place and the other files into their place, the links don’t work. Please note that I’m posting this to the Frame-to-Acrobat list, too. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer From: Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de] Sent: 2013-08-23-Friday 11:31 To: Stamm, David-P45904; Framers Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, I just set up some files according to your description, with hyperlinks from each target-file to the others and back to the BEGIN_HERE.fm. Well, I could see no problems within the files or in the pdf... (My files are mainly local, but I also copied the folder to an external drive for the test.) Just to make sure: If TargetA is one example for a named hyperlink-destination in file targetA.fm (and so on...), and BEGIN is the named destination in the file BEGIN_HERE.fm, the link options look like this: Link from BEGIN_HERE.fm to the other files: gotolink ABC_DEF/targetA.fm:TargetA (...and so forth for B, C, and D) Link from targetA.fm to targetB.fm: gotolink targetB.fm:TargetB Link from targetA.fm back
[f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working
2013-08-26-01T16:00Z Gail ? Yes, I print the book all at once to only one watched folder. I?m using File | Print Book? > Separate File for Each Docu. The arrangement of the .fm files is the same as arrangement of the .pdf files is to be. This is the first time in _years_ that I?ve needed to do this, so it?s mighty perplexing. I, too, customarily print large books including tables of contents and indices and such. Those files are in only one folder, and I use File > Single File. Everything works great. But not with the source and output files in different folders . . .. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc. Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section 1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.? Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; US tel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509 dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/ This message and / or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S S.P. 1.8.6 and GD Corporate Policy 07-105 and are intended to be accessed only by authorized recipients. Use, storage and transmission are governed by General Dynamics and its policies. Contractual restrictions apply to third parties. Recipients should refer to the policies or contract to determine proper handling. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message. From: Gail Bergan [mailto:gail.ber...@bergan.com] Sent: 2013-08-26-Monday 11:25 To: Stamm, David-P45904 Cc: ; ; Subject: Re: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, Is your begin_here.pdf being written to the same watched folder? I use a similar setup when producing my larger books (a Start.pdf file that has a large TOC that links to the individual "chapter" files). But I must write ALL files at once, including Start, hyperlinked Index, and individual chapters, from the book file so that relative links are not broken. When I test them in the Out folder, everything works, and then I can move them en masse to wherever the final files will reside. If I try to write the Start file by itself, then the Index by itself, or the chapters, I find I have broken links. I hope I understood your problem correctly and this helps. Gail - Sent from my iPad - Gail R. Bergan, President Bergan et al., Inc. 413 So. Church St. Rockport, TX 78382 361-727-2343 www.bergan.com www.linkedin.com/pub/gail-bergan/30/aa6/391 On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:50 AM, wrote: 2013-08-26-01T12:50Z Tino ? Thanks for your time, interest, and effort. Unfortunately, I failed to include in my original posting that I must produce _separate_ .pdf files. So, I still have the problem. After I print the book to separate files, I check a link while all the files are in [WatchedFolder] \ out. The links work great. Unfortunately, after I move ?BEGIN_HERE.pdf? into its place and the other files into their place, the links don?t work. Please note that I?m posting this to the Frame-to-Acrobat list, too. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer From: Heiko Haida [mailto:info at heiko-haida.de <mailto:info%40heiko-haida.de> ] Sent: 2013-08-23-Friday 11:31 To: Stamm, David-P45904; Framers Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, I just set up some files according to your description, with hyperlinks from each "target"-file to the others and back to the BEGIN_HERE.fm. Well, I could see no problems within the files or in the pdf... (My files are mainly local, but I also copied the folder to an external drive for the test.) Just to make sure: If "TargetA" is one example for a named hyperlink-destination in file "targetA.fm" (and so on...), and "BEGIN" is the named destination in the file "BEGIN_HERE.fm", the link options look like this: Link from BEGIN_HERE.fm to the other files: gotolink ABC_DEF/targetA.fm:TargetA (...and so forth for B, C, and D) Link from targetA.fm to targetB.fm: gotolink targetB.fm:TargetB Link from targetA.fm back to BEGIN_HERE.fm: gotolink ..//BEGIN_HERE.fm:BEGIN I am enclosing my PDF, if you don't mind. Good luck... Tino H. Haida. Berlin Dave.Stamm at gdc4s.com <mailto:Dave.Stamm%40gdc4s.com> : 2013-08-22-04T20:00Z Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1 4 GB RAM 64-bit operating system FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 FrameMaker installed on workstation Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with corporate policy I am unable to
[f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working
I think your problem may be in the use of a watched folder. The problem may be caused by the fact that the relative locations of the files in the watched folder is not the same as their relative locations in the directory structure of either the source directory or the target installation directory; the watched folder flattens the directory structure to a single level. I'd try two alternate approaches. 1) Create a watched folder directory structure that matches the source and target structures. 2) Print to the Adobe PDF virtual printer to create the PDF files directly in the target directory structure. -Fred Ridder Subject: RE: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 08:59:37 -0700 From: dave.st...@gdc4s.com To: gail.bergan at bergan.com CC: framers at lists.frameusers.com; frame2acrobat at yahoogroups.com 2013-08-26-01T16:00Z Gail ? Yes, I print the book all at once to only one watched folder. I?m using File | Print Book? > Separate File for Each Docu. The arrangement of the .fm files is the same as arrangement of the .pdf files is to be. This is the first time in _years_ that I?ve needed to do this, so it?s mighty perplexing. I, too, customarily print large books including tables of contents and indices and such. Those files are in only one folder, and I use File > Single File. Everything works great. But not with the source and output files in different folders . . .. Regards,Dave StammInformation EngineerGeneral Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc.Integrated Log Engr Svc, Logistics Section1700 Magnavox Way, Suite 200 We'll hit your targets from here.?Fort Wayne, Indiana 46804-1552; UStel: 260-434-9620 fax: 260.434.9501 / 9509dave.stamm at gdc4s.com http://www.gdc4s.com/ This message and / or attachments may include information subject to GDC4S S.P. 1.8.6 and GD Corporate Policy 07-105 and are intended to be accessed only by authorized recipients. Use, storage and transmission are governed by General Dynamics and its policies. Contractual restrictions apply to third parties. Recipients should refer to the policies or contract to determine proper handling. Unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the original message. From: Gail Bergan [mailto:gail.bergan at bergan.com] Sent: 2013-08-26-Monday 11:25 To: Stamm, David-P45904 Cc: ; ; Subject: Re: [f2a] RE: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, Is your begin_here.pdf being written to the same watched folder? I use a similar setup when producing my larger books (a Start.pdf file that has a large TOC that links to the individual "chapter" files). But I must write ALL files at once, including Start, hyperlinked Index, and individual chapters, from the book file so that relative links are not broken. When I test them in the Out folder, everything works, and then I can move them en masse to wherever the final files will reside. If I try to write the Start file by itself, then the Index by itself, or the chapters, I find I have broken links. I hope I understood your problem correctly and this helps. Gail-Sent from my iPad-Gail R. Bergan, PresidentBergan et al., Inc.413 So. Church St.Rockport, TX 78382361-727-2343 www.bergan.comwww.linkedin.com/pub/gail-bergan/30/aa6/391 On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:50 AM, wrote: 2013-08-26-01T12:50Z Tino ? Thanks for your time, interest, and effort. Unfortunately, I failed to include in my original posting that I must produce _separate_ .pdf files. So, I still have the problem. After I print the book to separate files, I check a link while all the files are in [WatchedFolder] \ out. The links work great. Unfortunately, after I move ?BEGIN_HERE.pdf? into its place and the other files into their place, the links don?t work. Please note that I?m posting this to the Frame-to-Acrobat list, too. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer From: Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de] Sent: 2013-08-23-Friday 11:31 To: Stamm, David-P45904; Framers Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working Hi Dave, I just set up some files according to your description, with hyperlinks from each "target"-file to the others and back to the BEGIN_HERE.fm. Well, I could see no problems within the files or in the pdf... (My files are mainly local, but I also copied the folder to an external drive for the test.) Just to make sure: If "TargetA" is one example for a named hyperlink-destination in file "targetA.fm" (and so on...), and "BEGIN" is the named destination in the file "BEGIN_HERE.fm", the link options look like this: Link from BEGIN_HERE.fm to the other files: gotolink ABC_DEF/targetA.fm:TargetA (...and so forth for B, C, and D) Link from targetA.fm to targetB.fm: gotolink targetB.fm:TargetB Link from targetA
Re: Hypertext links not working
I haven't done that sort of thing in some years, but it used to be that if you defined cross-references between .fm files in different directories, all the files had to be open when you saved a book as PDF. Also, the PDFs have to have the same relative directory relationship. If you have ./foo/foo.book and ./bar/bar.book, links in foo.pdf will be to ../bar/bar.pdf. If BEGIN_HERE.pdf is generated from an .fm file instead of a .book, that might be a problem. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote: 2013-08-22-04T20:00Z Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1 4 GB RAM 64-bit operating system FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 FrameMaker installed on workstation Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with corporate policy I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in one unstructured book. Here's how the files are arranged: NOTE: The .book file and all the target files are children of folder \Abc_Def. File BEGIN_HERE.fm is sibling of folder \Abc_Def and is to contain links to all four targets. Folder \Abc_Def File dir_Abc_Def.book File targetA.fm File targetB.fm File targetC.fm File targetD.fm File BEGIN_HERE.fm I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient of the informational product (portable document format files) wants it that way. I am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks to small amounts of text. Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly. My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink dir_About.fm). In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the time. In the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all. Dave Stamm Information Engineer ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Hypertext links not working
Maybe .fm files have to be in the directory containing the .book file or a subdirectory of that directory? On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:39 AM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote: 2013-08-23-05T11:40Z Robert - Thanks for the info. I, too, haven't done this since years ago. So long ago, in fact that I've tracked down my materials from Shlomo Perets' training back in 2002. Yes, all the files are part of dir_Abc_Def.book. The odd thing, for myself, is that the child file, is outside the folder that contains the rest of the book. Nothing I've tried so far works, so I'm hoping that someone on the list can help me find the secret sauce that I'm missing from the recipe. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: 2013-08-22-Thursday 16:24 To: Stamm, David-P45904 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working I haven't done that sort of thing in some years, but it used to be that if you defined cross-references between .fm files in different directories, all the files had to be open when you saved a book as PDF. Also, the PDFs have to have the same relative directory relationship. If you have ./foo/foo.book and ./bar/bar.book, links in foo.pdf will be to ../bar/bar.pdf. If BEGIN_HERE.pdf is generated from an .fm file instead of a .book, that might be a problem. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote: 2013-08-22-04T20:00Z Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1 4 GB RAM 64-bit operating system FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 FrameMaker installed on workstation Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with corporate policy I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in one unstructured book. Here's how the files are arranged: NOTE: The .book file and all the target files are children of folder \Abc_Def. File BEGIN_HERE.fm is sibling of folder \Abc_Def and is to contain links to all four targets. Folder \Abc_Def File dir_Abc_Def.book File targetA.fm File targetB.fm File targetC.fm File targetD.fm File BEGIN_HERE.fm I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient of the informational product (portable document format files) wants it that way. I am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks to small amounts of text. Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly. My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink dir_About.fm). In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the time. In the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all. Dave Stamm Information Engineer ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston .com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Hypertext links not working
2013-08-23-05T11:40Z Robert - Thanks for the info. I, too, haven't done this since years ago. So long ago, in fact that I've tracked down my materials from Shlomo Perets' training back in 2002. Yes, all the files are part of dir_Abc_Def.book. The odd thing, for myself, is that the child file, is outside the folder that contains the rest of the book. Nothing I've tried so far works, so I'm hoping that someone on the list can help me find the secret sauce that I'm missing from the recipe. Regards, Dave Stamm Information Engineer General Dynamics C4 Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: 2013-08-22-Thursday 16:24 To: Stamm, David-P45904 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Hypertext links not working I haven't done that sort of thing in some years, but it used to be that if you defined cross-references between .fm files in different directories, all the files had to be open when you saved a book as PDF. Also, the PDFs have to have the same relative directory relationship. If you have ./foo/foo.book and ./bar/bar.book, links in foo.pdf will be to ../bar/bar.pdf. If BEGIN_HERE.pdf is generated from an .fm file instead of a .book, that might be a problem. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM, dave.st...@gdc4s.com wrote: 2013-08-22-04T20:00Z Windows 7 Enterprise Service Pack 1 4 GB RAM 64-bit operating system FrameMaker 11.0.2.384 FrameMaker installed on workstation Folder and all files on a server on the local area network in accordance with corporate policy I am unable to consistently encode hypertext links among five files in one unstructured book. Here's how the files are arranged: NOTE: The .book file and all the target files are children of folder \Abc_Def. File BEGIN_HERE.fm is sibling of folder \Abc_Def and is to contain links to all four targets. Folder \Abc_Def File dir_Abc_Def.book File targetA.fm File targetB.fm File targetC.fm File targetD.fm File BEGIN_HERE.fm I moved File BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def because a recipient of the informational product (portable document format files) wants it that way. I am using a character tag to constrain both the newlinks and gotolinks to small amounts of text. Before I moved file BEGIN_HERE.fm out of folder \Abc_Def, crossreferences among all files worked flawlessly. My latest attempt has been to specify named destinations (for example, newlink dir_About.fm) and jumps to named destinations (for example, gotolink dir_About.fm). In the source .fm files, these jumps work only a small part of the time. In the deliverable .pdf files, they don't work at all. Dave Stamm Information Engineer ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston .com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Hypertext Links not Working
Stuart, The links that aren't working were created with the hypertext option using the Open Document command. We enter the relative address a separate file. The cross-reference links within the file seem to still be working. Roberta Heinlein SOP Specialist, Internal Audit-Corporate Compliance C-10 770-433-8211 x19827 - Corporate Compliance is committed to providing great customer service to our stores. THD Associates: Please visit myApron My Store Overview What's New VOC at the SSC and select Corporate Compliance to let us know how we are doing. -Original Message- From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:09 AM To: Heinlein, Roberta Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Hypertext Links not Working Heinlein, Roberta wrote: I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly. We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs but it still doesn't work. A little more info might help. What is the nature of the links, e.g., -- simple x-ref's within the same file -- cross-file within the same book -- cross-file to other documents not in the book -- links to URLs -- mailto: links -- other hypertext commands? Do ALL links fail, or if only some, what's different? Are you following the identical procedure as before when creating the PDF files? Using Print to Adobe PDF vs. Save As PDF? All files open, including book files of cross-ref targets outside this book? (If you have cross-file links, the nature of the path information saved in the PDF will be different depending on whether or not the target's book file is open at the time.) Is your folder structure the same as before? best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge. --Anatole France - The information contained in this e-mail and any attached documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been sent to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Hypertext Links not Working
Yes, the links appear to be correct in Acrobat using the Link Tool. The link shows as an absolute link and we put relative links in the FM file. The absolute link is correct and changes when I move the file to another folder-still correct for that folder. The links work correctly as well, until the file is moved to our intranet. Although the folder names are different in the intranet, the relative position is the same. Thank you Roberta Heinlein SOP Specialist, Internal Audit-Corporate Compliance C-10 770-433-8211 x19827 - Corporate Compliance is committed to providing great customer service to our stores. THD Associates: Please visit myApron My Store Overview What's New VOC at the SSC and select Corporate Compliance to let us know how we are doing. -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Rogers Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:29 PM To: Heinlein, Roberta Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Hypertext Links not Working Heinlein, Roberta wrote: Stuart, The links that aren't working were created with the hypertext option using the Open Document command. We enter the relative address a separate file. The cross-reference links within the file seem to still be working. Are the paths and filenames correct when you open/edit the links with the Link tool in Acrobat? -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge. --Anatole France ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as roberta_heinl...@homedepot.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/roberta_heinlein%40h omedepot.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. - The information contained in this e-mail and any attached documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been sent to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Hypertext Links not Working
Hallelujah! It worked. I was running on FM 8.0p236. After I installed all of the available updates, my links are working again. Thank you, Shlomo. Now I can breathe again. Roberta Heinlein SOP Specialist, Internal Audit-Corporate Compliance C-10 770-433-8211 x19827 - Corporate Compliance is committed to providing great customer service to our stores. THD Associates: Please visit myApron My Store Overview What's New VOC at the SSC and select Corporate Compliance to let us know how we are doing. -Original Message- From: Shlomo Perets [mailto:shlo...@microtype.com] Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:59 AM To: Heinlein, Roberta Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Hypertext Links not Working Roberta, You wrote: I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly. We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs but it still doesn't work. I'm new to the list, but I have searched the archives and haven't found any discussion related to this problem. Make sure you use FM8.0p273 or later. Cross-file links in PDFs authored in earlier releases of FrameMaker 8.0 use Unicode-encoded file paths and file names, which are not be supported in all environments. Select Help About FrameMaker to see the FM version. To update your FM8 version, select Help Updates. Shlomo Perets MicroType * http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants -- Free session: Ten FrameMaker Tips, Tuesday, October 13, starting 10am PDT https://student.gototraining.com/register/5203029145993480857 - The information contained in this e-mail and any attached documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been sent to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Hypertext Links not Working
Roberta, You wrote: I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly. We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs but it still doesn't work. I'm new to the list, but I have searched the archives and haven't found any discussion related to this problem. Make sure you use FM8.0p273 or later. Cross-file links in PDFs authored in earlier releases of FrameMaker 8.0 use Unicode-encoded file paths and file names, which are not be supported in all environments. Select Help About FrameMaker to see the FM version. To update your FM8 version, select Help Updates. Shlomo Perets MicroType * http://www.microtype.com FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting * FM-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants -- Free session: Ten FrameMaker Tips, Tuesday, October 13, starting 10am PDT https://student.gototraining.com/register/5203029145993480857 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Hypertext Links not Working
Heinlein, Roberta wrote: I'm having a frustrating problem with hypertext links. We create hypertext links in FM 7.2 to PDF files. Then we convert the FM document to PDF. The links work. We place the files in Documentum where they are moved to our intranet. The links work perfectly. We just upgraded to FM 8.0. The links still work in the PDF file until it is moved to our intranet-then the links no longer work. We don't want to have to revert back to FM 7.2 but we can't figure out how to correct this problem. I have tried turning on Create Named Destinations for All Paragraphs but it still doesn't work. A little more info might help. What is the nature of the links, e.g., -- simple x-ref's within the same file -- cross-file within the same book -- cross-file to other documents not in the book -- links to URLs -- mailto: links -- other hypertext commands? Do ALL links fail, or if only some, what's different? Are you following the identical procedure as before when creating the PDF files? Using Print to Adobe PDF vs. Save As PDF? All files open, including book files of cross-ref targets outside this book? (If you have cross-file links, the nature of the path information saved in the PDF will be different depending on whether or not the target's book file is open at the time.) Is your folder structure the same as before? best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to beg in the streets, steal bread, or sleep under a bridge. --Anatole France ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
