RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-24 Thread David Creamer
As other have stated, FrameMaker and PageMaker have except for the Maker
part of their name.

However, I can hear poor ol' PageMaker now... I'm not dead yet g
Believe it or not, Adobe still sells it. They try to get you to switch to
InDesign, but it is still available on the store for $500 US.

 Regarding tutorials...

Video: 
TV.Adobe.com (free); You can watch anything from 9 up to get the basics.
Lynda.com (you can get one week free); Lessons are on Frame 10, but basics
are still the same.
(This is not a complete list.)

On-line or on-site training by Adobe Certified Instructors:
http://training.adobe.com/training/partner-finder.html#p=1product=adobe-fr
ame-makertype=aci
This link focuses on the USA, but you can change it if necessary.

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
http://www.ideastraining.com
Adobe Authorized Instructor  Certified Expert since 1995
Authorized QuarkXPress Instructor and Certified Expert since 1988




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RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi David,

 

Lynda.com has a FrameMaker 11 course, but since it just covers the basics
anyway, it would be appropriate for FrameMaker 12. It will cost you $25 per
month,  but since you have a 30 day trial this will be just right. There are
tons of great course on there that you will have access to for the monthly
fee. No formal connection to them, just a satisfied customer.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-366-4017

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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Subject: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

 

I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used
FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need
to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and
that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me
in the right direction? Thanks.

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Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

  
  
Here are some tutorials:
  http://www.prismnet.com/~tcm/etwr2472/guides/frame9/
  http://wiki.scriptorium.com/tiki-index.php
  http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=framemaker%20tutorialsm=3
  http://www.lynda.com/FrameMaker-training-tutorials/1059-0.html
  
  Lynda.com costs $25 a month for basic access. The others are free.
  They are all for older versions of FrameMaker, but the GUI hasn't
  changed much since version 9, so anything from 9 and above should
  be fine.
  
  Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

  On 22-Jan-14 7:47 PM, David Downing wrote:


  I just downloaded the 30 trial version of
FrameMaker 12. I have never used FrameMaker at all (although I
have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to find a good
tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that
begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody
point me in the right direction? Thanks.
  
  
  
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RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Pick up a copy of Matt Sullivan's bible of FM - Publishing Fundamentals of FM11

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I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used 
FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need to 
find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that 
begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me in the 
right direction? Thanks.
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Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Urszula
David, just be sure you do not compare FrameMaker to PageMaker. Two different 
worlds, one long gone and replaced by InDesign.

FrameMaker is more like a very able text processor with focus on text content, 
rather than layout of individual pages. Be sure you cover master pages, format 
tags and catalogs.

Enjoy,

Urszula Witherell
www.jetsetcom.net | www.trainingonsite.com
301.524.3165

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 to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and that 
 begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point me in 
 the right direction? Thanks.
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RE: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12

2014-01-23 Thread Fred Ridder
Total ignorance is probably overstating it, but one fundamental fact you have 
missed is that PageMaker and FrameMaker do *not* have a common ancestry. What 
they have in common (besides the coincidental similarity in their names) is 
that they were both acquired as mature products by Adobe. 

PageMaker was originally developed by Aldus Corporation with the original 
Macintosh version released in 1985 and a version for Windows 1.0 two years 
later. The company and its products were acquired by Adobe in 1994, and the 
product was eventually discontinued in 2004. 

FrameMaker, on the other hand, was originally developed by an astrophysics grad 
student at Columbia. An entrepreneur saw a demo version running on a Sun 
workstation and formed a company, Frame Technology, to commercialize it circa 
1985. Originally it ran only on SunOS, but it was also ported to other flavors 
of UNIX in its early years. In 1990 a Mac version appeared, and a Windows 
version followed two years later. The lower-cost Mac and Windows versions 
killed the sales of the much more expensive UNIX version and the company's 
sales and profit steadily slid toward zero before Adobe purchased them in 1995. 

Also, the two products do not (or rather, *did* not since PageMaker is a dead 
issue) the same thing. PageMaker was intended for things like brochures, 
newsletters, and magazines, where each page is likely to have a different 
layout. FrameMaker is intended for long documents (e.g. books) with consistent, 
repetitive page layouts. It can do page-by-page layouts, but not very flexibly 
and not very efficiently because that's not what it was designed for. 

-Fred Ridder

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 Subject: Re: Need a good introductory tutorial for FrameMaker 12
 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:24:16 -0500
 To: david.h.down...@gmail.com
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 David, just be sure you do not compare FrameMaker to PageMaker. Two different 
 worlds, one long gone and replaced by InDesign.
 
 FrameMaker is more like a very able text processor with focus on text 
 content, rather than layout of individual pages. Be sure you cover master 
 pages, format tags and catalogs.
 
 Enjoy,
 
 Urszula Witherell
 www.jetsetcom.net | www.trainingonsite.com
 301.524.3165
 
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  wrote:
  
  I just downloaded the 30 trial version of FrameMaker 12. I have never used 
  FrameMaker at all (although I have used its predecessor, PageMaker). I need 
  to find a good tutorial that will get me started with FrameMaker 12, and 
  that begins by assuming total ignorance of the product. Can anybody point 
  me in the right direction? Thanks.
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