Re: Solution NOT SOLVED Phantom Index Entries
Why don't you think about getting IXGen from fsa.com and using it to open all the markers. Then delete the problems... http://www.fsatools.com/ Just in passing, it's a great indexing tool too, but that one particular function would be useful to you in solving the problem. Art On 8/3/06, Murray Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not delete the cause in the fm files that is the source of the phantom entries in my index, but I can hide the effect. In my index I have made the offending index entries conditional and hidden them. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Solution NOT SOLVED Phantom Index Entries
Murray Moore wrote: I can not delete the cause in the fm files that is the source of the phantom entries in my index, but I can hide the effect. In my index I have made the offending index entries conditional and hidden them. I didn't really understand the initial problem, but whatever it was, this isn't a solution -- or even an acceptable workaround. An index is a generated file. When you update your book, your conditionalized entries will be deleted and replaced with new, unconditionalized entries. To modify your index, you need to modify the index markers from which it's generated, not the generated output. I don't recall why you weren't able to find or edit the problematic marker text, but Art's suggestion of getting IXGen is a good one. Use it to generate an editable marker list, find and fix your problem entries in that list, and then reapply the list to your doc, replacing all the existing markers. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Solution NOT SOLVED Phantom Index Entries
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Murray Moore wrote: I can not delete the cause in the fm files that is the source of the This is very peculiar... has to be an explanation somewhere! :) Are you by chance pulling your files across a network? Perhaps stale or out-of-sync files are being moved around. (Many of the old network/FM problems of the past have been solved by better network sw in recent years, but one never knows when something might perhaps be out of adjustment or broken.) If you'd like to send us a sample file I'll take a look at this B-grade SciFi/horror movie of the marker that won't go away. After nearly 2 decades of working with MIF have never heard of anything like this (other than file sync issues). What you describe has gotten me rather curious. If you elect to do this, send the original problematic binary file, not the MIF version you created. Thanks, Frank Frank Stearns Associates | makers of IXgen(tm) for FrameMaker(r) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TOLL FREE Voice (USA and Canada): 800-567-6421 USA Voice: 360-892-3970 USA FAX: 360-253-1498 http://www.fsatools.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Solution NOT SOLVED Phantom Index Entries
My problem, Richard, is that I do not have a fm index marker to edit. I call this entry in my book's index a ghost because its index marker text in Chapter 1 was changed a number of book index updates ago. The new version of that index entry displays in the index, too. When I look at that index marker in Chapter, I see only the revised text. The older version of that index entry text only is found in the mif version of Chapter 1. When the free-of-the-ghost mif version is saved as the fm version and a stand-alone index is generated (thanks, Roger Shuttleworth), that ghost is gone. But when the book then is updated, that ghost entry redisplays in my book's index. So the problem seems to occur during the updating of the book/regeneration of the index. Whooo! /\/\ Murray -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:50 AM To: Murray Moore; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Solution NOT SOLVED Phantom Index Entries Murray Moore wrote: I can not delete the cause in the fm files that is the source of the phantom entries in my index, but I can hide the effect. In my index I have made the offending index entries conditional and hidden them. I didn't really understand the initial problem, but whatever it was, this isn't a solution -- or even an acceptable workaround. An index is a generated file. When you update your book, your conditionalized entries will be deleted and replaced with new, unconditionalized entries. To modify your index, you need to modify the index markers from which it's generated, not the generated output. I don't recall why you weren't able to find or edit the problematic marker text, but Art's suggestion of getting IXGen is a good one. Use it to generate an editable marker list, find and fix your problem entries in that list, and then reapply the list to your doc, replacing all the existing markers. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.