Re: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-22 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 14:41 + 19/8/11, Harding, Daniel B wrote:

FM10 (Win7 64-bit)

I'm lost on this one: I want to import/copy a single paragraph style 
definition from one FM file to another. Just that one style, no others, and no 
content.

How do I do this?

Not a stupid question at all. In addition to Fred and other's responses, if you 
want to import a single (or multiple) style across a whole book or books, try 
this:

. Copy the document that contains the style you want to propagate. This will be 
your 'seed' document for the new/revised style.

. Open the copy and delete all the styles except the one of interest ('Delete' 
from the relevant palette).

. Import across the book(s) from that document, choosing character, paragraph 
or table format import as appropriate (File  Import  Formats).

. Discard the copied document that acted as the 'seed' for the new style 
definition.

If the style doesn't already exist in the book(s), it will be added to the 
relevant catalog for each document in the book. If the style does exist in the 
book(s), the imported style will overwrite the existing style of the same name.

Obviously you can do this as well for multiple styles.

If you find yourself doing this a lot, SiliconPrairie's very reasonably priced 
plug-ins (Character Tools, PAragraph Tools and Table Tools) offer a command to 
delete all styles of the relevant type that are not used in a document.

[These instructions are for pre-FrameMaker v 9 versions: I'm not sufficiently 
familiar with the new interface to know where you go to delete styles in v 10, 
but it'll be somewhere.]

-- 
Steve
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RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-22 Thread Everette, Dimi
Or you can:

1.   Right-click in any paragraph with the desired format in the source 
file and select Copy Special  Copy Paragraph Format.

2.   Go to the target file and select the paragraph you want to apply the 
format to.

3.   Right-click and select Paste (or just CTRL-V without right-clicking).

4.   With your cursor still in the paragraph, open the Paragraph Designer.

5.   Click Apply, which causes the New Format dialog to appear.

6.   Click Create to store the format in the paragraph catalog and reapply 
it to the selection.  (You can deselect the Apply to Selection checkbox before 
clicking Create if you want to.)

The same steps work for copying character formats, except:

2. Go to the target file and select the word or words you want to apply the 
format to.
4. With your cursor still in the word, open the Character Designer.
6. [of course you're storing the format in the character catalog]


Regards,
Dimi


Dimi Everette, Sr. Technical Writer, Video Information Design
6500 River Place Blvd., Bldg. 6, Austin, TX 78730  | t: 512.372.6988 | f: 
512.372.7001


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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:10 PM
To: dhard...@illinois.edu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
another FM file?

1) Copy any paragraph of the desired format from the source file.
2) Paste it into the target file.
3) Use the Character Designer to add the paragraph format to the current file's 
catalog.
4) Delete the pasted paragraph.

-FR

 From: dhard...@illinois.edu
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
 another FM file?
 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:41:09 +

 FM10 (Win7 64-bit)

 I'm lost on this one: I want to import/copy a single paragraph style 
 definition from one FM file to another. Just that one style, no others, and 
 no content.

 How do I do this?

 Thanks,

 -Dan

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RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-22 Thread Fred Ridder

I am sorry that you took my posting as an insult or some kind of personal 
atrack. It was not intended to be either of those things.
 
I am sorry that I had a brain fade when I posted my procedure and named the 
wrong designer. The error was already pointed out and acknowledged on the list. 
 
And I am sorry that you found my simple and direct approach to getting the job 
done was juveinile. After more than a quarter century of tech writing I have 
these strange preferences for keeping things simple and for doing things in the 
most efficient way.
 
-FR
 



From: dimi.evere...@polycom.com
To: docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:42:56 -0700
Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
another FM file?








Dear Fred,
 
Thanks for attempting to make me look like an idiot. J
 
I appreciate that you think your way is the only way to accomplish the task, 
but then, your step 3 mentions the Character Designer, which has nothing to do 
with the original task. My feeling is that copying a paragraph that you only 
delete later is a bit juvenile, but, hey, that’s just me. I’ve never had a 
problem with my steps and I’ve certainly never screwed up an existing format by 
following my steps.
 
Sorry, gang, but it’s early Monday morning and I just hate opening my email to 
find an insult.
 

Regards,
Dimi
 
 
Dimi Everette, Sr. Technical Writer, Video Information Design
6500 River Place Blvd., Bldg. 6, Austin, TX 78730  | t: 512.372.6988 | f: 
512.372.7001
 
 

 


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From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:25 PM
To: Everette, Dimi; dhard...@illinois.edu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
another FM file?
 

Be careful with Step 6 (that's step 6 in the first procedure, the one with 
consecutive step numbers). As written, what you are doing is redefining an 
existing paragraph tag (the one that was applied to the current paragraph) to 
have the imported formatting characteristics. What I think was desired was to 
import a paragraph format along with its own tag name, and the easiest way to 
do that (and avoiding the possibilitiy of mistyping the name in the paragraph 
Designer) is to copy and paste a paragraph of the desired format, add its 
format to the paragraph catalog, then delete the paragraph. Anything else is 
just overcomplicating the process.
 
-Fred Ridder
 




From: dimi.evere...@polycom.com
To: docu...@hotmail.com; dhard...@illinois.edu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:48:59 -0700
Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
another FM file?

Or you can:
1.   Right-click in any paragraph with the desired format in the source 
file and select Copy Special  Copy Paragraph Format.
2.   Go to the target file and select the paragraph you want to apply the 
format to.
3.   Right-click and select Paste (or just CTRL-V without right-clicking).
4.   With your cursor still in the paragraph, open the Paragraph Designer.
5.   Click Apply, which causes the New Format dialog to appear.
6.   Click Create to store the format in the paragraph catalog and reapply 
it to the selection.  (You can deselect the Apply to Selection checkbox before 
clicking Create if you want to.)
 

The same steps work for copying character formats, except:
 
2. Go to the target file and select the word or words you want to apply the 
format to.
4. With your cursor still in the word, open the Character Designer.
6. [of course you’re storing the format in the character catalog]
 
 
Regards,
Dimi
 
 
Dimi Everette, Sr. Technical Writer, Video Information Design
6500 River Place Blvd., Bldg. 6, Austin, TX 78730  | t: 512.372.6988 | f: 
512.372.7001
 
 

 


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Re: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-22 Thread Yves Barbion
I don't see anything insulting in Fred Ridder's reply, and I also don't
think Fred claimed that his way is the only way to accomplish the task.
But, Fred's way is usually the best way, just check the hundreds of valuable
contributions that Fred has made to this list.

By the way, the insults are in your reply, Dimi, so you should apologize to
Fred instead of he to you.


Cheers

-- 
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www.scripto.nu
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RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-22 Thread Everette, Dimi
Dear Fred,

Thanks for attempting to make me look like an idiot. :)

I appreciate that you think your way is the only way to accomplish the task, 
but then, your step 3 mentions the Character Designer, which has nothing to do 
with the original task. My feeling is that copying a paragraph that you only 
delete later is a bit juvenile, but, hey, that's just me. I've never had a 
problem with my steps and I've certainly never screwed up an existing format by 
following my steps.

Sorry, gang, but it's early Monday morning and I just hate opening my email to 
find an insult.

Regards,
Dimi


Dimi Everette, Sr. Technical Writer, Video Information Design
6500 River Place Blvd., Bldg. 6, Austin, TX 78730  | t: 512.372.6988 | f: 
512.372.7001


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From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:25 PM
To: Everette, Dimi; dhard...@illinois.edu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
another FM file?

Be careful with Step 6 (that's step 6 in the first procedure, the one with 
consecutive step numbers). As written, what you are doing is redefining an 
existing paragraph tag (the one that was applied to the current paragraph) to 
have the imported formatting characteristics. What I think was desired was to 
import a paragraph format along with its own tag name, and the easiest way to 
do that (and avoiding the possibilitiy of mistyping the name in the paragraph 
Designer) is to copy and paste a paragraph of the desired format, add its 
format to the paragraph catalog, then delete the paragraph. Anything else is 
just overcomplicating the process.

-Fred Ridder


From: dimi.evere...@polycom.com
To: docu...@hotmail.com; dhard...@illinois.edu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:48:59 -0700
Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
another FM file?
Or you can:
1.   Right-click in any paragraph with the desired format in the source 
file and select Copy Special  Copy Paragraph Format.
2.   Go to the target file and select the paragraph you want to apply the 
format to.
3.   Right-click and select Paste (or just CTRL-V without right-clicking).
4.   With your cursor still in the paragraph, open the Paragraph Designer.
5.   Click Apply, which causes the New Format dialog to appear.
6.   Click Create to store the format in the paragraph catalog and reapply 
it to the selection.  (You can deselect the Apply to Selection checkbox before 
clicking Create if you want to.)

The same steps work for copying character formats, except:

2. Go to the target file and select the word or words you want to apply the 
format to.
4. With your cursor still in the word, open the Character Designer.
6. [of course you're storing the format in the character catalog]


Regards,
Dimi


Dimi Everette, Sr. Technical Writer, Video Information Design
6500 River Place Blvd., Bldg. 6, Austin, TX 78730  | t: 512.372.6988 | f: 
512.372.7001


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:10 PM
To: dhard...@illinois.edu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
another FM file?

1) Copy any paragraph of the desired format from the source file.
2) Paste it into the target file.
3) Use the Character Designer to add the paragraph format

RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-22 Thread Ragnar Hanås
I´m using the Frame Script SuperImportBundle which does exactly what you ask
for. You can also import single formats as below: 
ImpSelMasterPage (Imports master pages) 
ImpSelRefPage  (Imports reference pages)
* ImpSelPgfFmt (Imports paragraph formats)
* ImpSelCharFmt (Imports character formats)
* ImpSelVarFmt (Imports variable formats)
* ImpSelTblFmt (Imports table formats)
* ImpSelColors (Imports colors)
* ImpSelXRefFmt (Imports cross ref formats)
* ImpSelCondFmt (Imports condition formats)
* ImpSelRulingFmt (Imports ruling formats)
* ImpSelMarkerType (Imports marker types)

See http://framescript.natebus.de/index.php?navi=superimportbundle (in
German, but the script is in English). It is worth every penny if you have
Frame Script.
Ragnar Hanas, MD
Uddevalla Hospital, Sweden

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:32 PM
To: Harding, Daniel B; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from
another FM file?

At 14:41 + 19/8/11, Harding, Daniel B wrote:

FM10 (Win7 64-bit)

I'm lost on this one: I want to import/copy a single paragraph style
definition from one FM file to another. Just that one style, no others, and
no content.

How do I do this?

Not a stupid question at all. In addition to Fred and other's responses, if
you want to import a single (or multiple) style across a whole book or
books, try this:

. Copy the document that contains the style you want to propagate. This will
be your 'seed' document for the new/revised style.

. Open the copy and delete all the styles except the one of interest
('Delete' from the relevant palette).

. Import across the book(s) from that document, choosing character,
paragraph or table format import as appropriate (File  Import  Formats).

. Discard the copied document that acted as the 'seed' for the new style
definition.

If the style doesn't already exist in the book(s), it will be added to the
relevant catalog for each document in the book. If the style does exist in
the book(s), the imported style will overwrite the existing style of the
same name.

Obviously you can do this as well for multiple styles.

If you find yourself doing this a lot, SiliconPrairie's very reasonably
priced plug-ins (Character Tools, PAragraph Tools and Table Tools) offer a
command to delete all styles of the relevant type that are not used in a
document.

[These instructions are for pre-FrameMaker v 9 versions: I'm not
sufficiently familiar with the new interface to know where you go to delete
styles in v 10, but it'll be somewhere.]

-- 
Steve
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RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-21 Thread Fred Ridder

1) Copy any paragraph of the desired format from the source file.
2) Paste it into the target file.
3) Use the Character Designer to add the paragraph format to the current file's 
catalog.
4) Delete the pasted paragraph.
 
-FR 
 

 From: dhard...@illinois.edu
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
 another FM file?
 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:41:09 +
 
 FM10 (Win7 64-bit)
 
 I'm lost on this one: I want to import/copy a single paragraph style 
 definition from one FM file to another. Just that one style, no others, and 
 no content.
 
 How do I do this?
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Dan
 
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RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-21 Thread Fred Ridder

Be careful with Step 6 (that's step 6 in the first procedure, the one with 
consecutive step numbers). As written, what you are doing is redefining an 
existing paragraph tag (the one that was applied to the current paragraph) to 
have the imported formatting characteristics. What I think was desired was to 
import a paragraph format along with its own tag name, and the easiest way to 
do that (and avoiding the possibilitiy of mistyping the name in the paragraph 
Designer) is to copy and paste a paragraph of the desired format, add its 
format to the paragraph catalog, then delete the paragraph. Anything else is 
just overcomplicating the process.
 
-Fred Ridder
 



From: dimi.evere...@polycom.com
To: docu...@hotmail.com; dhard...@illinois.edu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:48:59 -0700
Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
another FM file?








Or you can:

1.   Right-click in any paragraph with the desired format in the source 
file and select Copy Special  Copy Paragraph Format.
2.   Go to the target file and select the paragraph you want to apply the 
format to.
3.   Right-click and select Paste (or just CTRL-V without right-clicking).
4.   With your cursor still in the paragraph, open the Paragraph Designer.
5.   Click Apply, which causes the New Format dialog to appear.
6.   Click Create to store the format in the paragraph catalog and reapply 
it to the selection.  (You can deselect the Apply to Selection checkbox before 
clicking Create if you want to.)
 

The same steps work for copying character formats, except:
 
2. Go to the target file and select the word or words you want to apply the 
format to.
4. With your cursor still in the word, open the Character Designer.
6. [of course you’re storing the format in the character catalog]
 
 
Regards,
Dimi
 
 
Dimi Everette, Sr. Technical Writer, Video Information Design
6500 River Place Blvd., Bldg. 6, Austin, TX 78730  | t: 512.372.6988 | f: 
512.372.7001
 
 

 


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:10 PM
To: dhard...@illinois.edu; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
another FM file?
 

1) Copy any paragraph of the desired format from the source file.
2) Paste it into the target file.
3) Use the Character Designer to add the paragraph format to the current file's 
catalog.
4) Delete the pasted paragraph.
 
-FR 
 

 From: dhard...@illinois.edu
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
 another FM file?
 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:41:09 +
 
 FM10 (Win7 64-bit)
 
 I'm lost on this one: I want to import/copy a single paragraph style 
 definition from one FM file to another. Just that one style, no others, and 
 no content.
 
 How do I do this?
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Dan
 
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RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-21 Thread Helen Borrie
At 08:09 AM 22/08/2011, Fred Ridder wrote:

3) Use the Character Designer to add the paragraph format to the current 
file's catalog.

-- Paragraph Designer --
;-)

H. 

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RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from another FM file?

2011-08-21 Thread Fred Ridder

Right you are. I was distracted by a rather intense thunderstorm that was just 
passing over.
 

 Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:47:54 +1200
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 From: hele...@iinet.net.au
 Subject: RE: Stupid question #843: Importing a SINGLE paragraph style from 
 another FM file?
 
 At 08:09 AM 22/08/2011, Fred Ridder wrote:
 
 3) Use the Character Designer to add the paragraph format to the current 
 file's catalog.
 
 -- Paragraph Designer --
 ;-)
 
 H. 
 
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