Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem
Steve, I remember many messages on this list about the Save as PDF function being broken in Frame 6.0 and an announcement on this list that it was fixed in Frame 7.0. If I remember correctly, the announcement came from Dov. Though I generally print to PS and distill, I have used the Save as PDF function successfully quite a few times in 7.0. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:17 PM To: Steve Rickaby Cc: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Strange PDF Problem Steve Rickaby wrote: No, because I don't use 'Save as PDF'. Isn't the general view that it's broken and therefore deprecated? Or has it been fixed in 7.2? Hmmm ... I use Save As PDF successfully in FM 7.2 all the time (although I have not changed the filename - other than using a .PDF extension for the output). This Save As PDF then gets processed by Distiller (both versions 7 and 8 from Adobe Acrobat) and there are no problems that I can see. What difficulties are people experiencing with doing this? Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem
Just to provide some historical context for this, the big issue with Save As PDF was always that of printer drivers, and only on Windows systems. In FrameMaker versions through 6.0, Save As PDF always used the current Windows printer driver, which might or might not have been a PostScript driver and might or might not have been for a printer that supported color. (Remember all those queries to the list about people who lost all their colored text when they went to PDF? The inevitable cause was a monochrome printer driver.) As of FrameMaker 7.0, Save As PDF always uses the Adobe PDF printer driver, which is the correct thing as far as it goes. The problem is that if the default printer is not Adobe PDF, this represents a *change* in the printer driver, which means a change in font metrics (which are supplied by the printer driver on Windows systems). And a change in font metrics can mean changes in certain line breaks, which in turn might affect page and even chapter breaks and make the page numbers in the generated files incorrect. So Save As PDF is a lot less broken now, but it still has a couple of significant gotchas unless you make the Adobe PDF printer your default. Personally, I never use Save As PDF. I'm a big fan of the watched folder approach for books or printing directly to the Adobe PDF virtual printer for single files. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:56 PM To: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem Steve, I remember many messages on this list about the Save as PDF function being broken in Frame 6.0 and an announcement on this list that it was fixed in Frame 7.0. If I remember correctly, the announcement came from Dov. Though I generally print to PS and distill, I have used the Save as PDF function successfully quite a few times in 7.0. Diane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:17 PM To: Steve Rickaby Cc: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Strange PDF Problem Steve Rickaby wrote: No, because I don't use 'Save as PDF'. Isn't the general view that it's broken and therefore deprecated? Or has it been fixed in 7.2? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem
Steve, I remember many messages on this list about the Save as PDF function being broken in Frame 6.0 and an announcement on this list that it was fixed in Frame 7.0. If I remember correctly, the announcement came from Dov. Though I generally print to PS and distill, I have used the Save as PDF function successfully quite a few times in 7.0. Diane -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:17 PM To: Steve Rickaby Cc: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: Strange PDF Problem Steve Rickaby wrote: > No, because I don't use 'Save as PDF'. Isn't the general view that it's broken and therefore deprecated? Or has it been fixed in 7.2? Hmmm ... I use "Save As PDF" successfully in FM 7.2 all the time (although I have not changed the filename - other than using a .PDF extension for the output). This "Save As PDF" then gets processed by Distiller (both versions 7 and 8 from Adobe Acrobat) and there are no problems that I can see. What difficulties are people experiencing with doing this? Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as dgcaller at earthlink.net. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dgcaller%40earthlink.net Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem
Just to provide some historical context for this, the big issue with Save As PDF was always that of printer drivers, and only on Windows systems. In FrameMaker versions through 6.0, Save As PDF always used the current Windows printer driver, which might or might not have been a PostScript driver and might or might not have been for a printer that supported color. (Remember all those queries to the list about people who lost all their colored text when they went to PDF? The inevitable cause was a monochrome printer driver.) As of FrameMaker 7.0, Save As PDF always uses the "Adobe PDF" printer driver, which is the correct thing as far as it goes. The problem is that if the default printer is not Adobe PDF, this represents a *change* in the printer driver, which means a change in font metrics (which are supplied by the printer driver on Windows systems). And a change in font metrics can mean changes in certain line breaks, which in turn might affect page and even chapter breaks and make the page numbers in the generated files incorrect. So Save As PDF is a lot less broken now, but it still has a couple of significant gotchas unless you make the Adobe PDF printer your default. Personally, I never use Save As PDF. I'm a big fan of the watched folder approach for books or printing directly to the Adobe PDF virtual printer for single files. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:56 PM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Save As PDF Was: RE: Strange PDF Problem Steve, I remember many messages on this list about the Save as PDF function being broken in Frame 6.0 and an announcement on this list that it was fixed in Frame 7.0. If I remember correctly, the announcement came from Dov. Though I generally print to PS and distill, I have used the Save as PDF function successfully quite a few times in 7.0. Diane -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:17 PM To: Steve Rickaby Cc: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: Strange PDF Problem Steve Rickaby wrote: > No, because I don't use 'Save as PDF'. Isn't the general view that it's broken and therefore deprecated? Or has it been fixed in 7.2?
