TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-17 Thread Kapil Verma
s-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:20 PM To: gillian.flato at nexenta.com; framers Subject: RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution I am currently working a contract for a company where we are writin

RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-17 Thread Kapil Verma
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:20 PM To: gillian.fl...@nexenta.com; framers Subject: RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution I am currently working a contract for a company where we are writing DITA

RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-08 Thread David Creamer
The book FrameMaker: A Hands-On Guide to Creating DITA Compliant Documents is on Frame 9, but most of the info is still good. Of course, you will have to check out the new DITA-related features that Frame 10 and 11 added. http://www.publishingsmarter.com/resources/books-and-articles/framemaker D

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-08 Thread David Creamer
The book FrameMaker: A Hands-On Guide to Creating DITA Compliant Documents is on Frame 9, but most of the info is still good. Of course, you will have to check out the new DITA-related features that Frame 10 and 11 added. http://www.publishingsmarter.com/resources/books-and-articles/framemaker D

RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > I like the Scriptorium _Unstructured_ FrameMaker book a lot (currently > for version 8), and am looking forward to their Version 11 (as > mentioned in the link you provided). > > They had also announced, some years ago, a _Structured_ FrameMaker > Version 8 book, whic

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Combs, Richard
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > I like the Scriptorium _Unstructured_ FrameMaker book a lot (currently > for version 8), and am looking forward to their Version 11 (as > mentioned in the link you provided). > > They had also announced, some years ago, a _Structured_ FrameMaker > Version 8 book, which

RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
> My bad. Is the most recent book on structured publishing with FrameMaker > actually "Structured Publishing from the Desktop: Frame Technology's > Framemaker," published in 1992? I am not sure, to be honest. I have not looked for those older books. I like the Scriptorium _Unstructured_ FrameMa

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
> My bad. Is the most recent book on structured publishing with FrameMaker > actually "Structured Publishing from the Desktop: Frame Technology's > Framemaker," published in 1992? I am not sure, to be honest. I have not looked for those older books. I like the Scriptorium _Unstructured_ FrameMa

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Robert Lauriston
My bad. Is the most recent book on structured publishing with FrameMaker actually "Structured Publishing from the Desktop: Frame Technology's Framemaker," published in 1992? On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: > Robert Lauriston wrote: >> Ready, shoot,

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Lin Sims
What Syed said. I've got the Frame 8 book, and it's still incredibly useful, but the company I'm now working at is using Frame 10 and is making noises about moving all of us into structured, so I want both! On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Rob

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Robert Lauriston
My bad. Is the most recent book on structured publishing with FrameMaker actually "Structured Publishing from the Desktop: Frame Technology's Framemaker," published in 1992? On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > Robert Lauriston wrote: >> Ready, sho

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Matt Sullivan
Yep, the unstructured book is slated for release by early January, both in print and in EPUB. Given the changes from FM8 to FM11, and the usual time period associated with FM releases, a structured FM12 book might be the earliest you'd see. -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | onl

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Matt Sullivan
Yep, the unstructured book is slated for release by early January, both in print and in EPUB. Given the changes from FM8 to FM11, and the usual time period associated with FM releases, a structured FM12 book might be the earliest you'd see. -Matt Matt Sullivan technical communication | onl

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-04 Thread Lin Sims
What Syed said. I've got the Frame 8 book, and it's still incredibly useful, but the company I'm now working at is using Frame 10 and is making noises about moving all of us into structured, so I want both! On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote: > Robert

RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-03 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston wrote: > Ready, shoot, aim! > > Scriptorium's updating their book for FM11 but they're not done yet. > > http://www.scriptorium.com/books/unstructured-framemaker-11/ Good! I'd also love to see their _unreleased_ Structured FrameMaker 8 ... ideally updated for FrameMaker 11, bu

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-03 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Robert Lauriston wrote: > Ready, shoot, aim! > > Scriptorium's updating their book for FM11 but they're not done yet. > > http://www.scriptorium.com/books/unstructured-framemaker-11/ Good! I'd also love to see their _unreleased_ Structured FrameMaker 8 ... ideally updated for FrameMaker 11, bu

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-03 Thread Writer
>Ready, shoot, aim! > >Scriptorium's updating their book for FM11 but they're not done yet. > >http://www.scriptorium.com/books/unstructured-framemaker-11/ The picture made me laugh. Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-a

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-03 Thread Writer
>Ready, shoot, aim! > >Scriptorium's updating their book for FM11 but they're not done yet. > >http://www.scriptorium.com/books/unstructured-framemaker-11/ The picture made me laugh. Nadine

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
Ready, shoot, aim! Scriptorium's updating their book for FM11 but they're not done yet. http://www.scriptorium.com/books/unstructured-framemaker-11/ On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, John Sgammato wrote: > Remembering Gillian's original question: > > "Has anyone used TCS v4.x as a complete DITA

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
Ready, shoot, aim! Scriptorium's updating their book for FM11 but they're not done yet. http://www.scriptorium.com/books/unstructured-framemaker-11/ On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM, John Sgammato wrote: > Remembering Gillian's original question: > > "Has anyone used TCS v4.x as a complete DITA

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-12-01 Thread John Sgammato
t; Liz > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Gillian Flato > wrote: > Thanks, Scott! > > > > -Gillian > > > > From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:27 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Gill

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-29 Thread John Sgammato
t; Liz > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Gillian Flato > wrote: > Thanks, Scott! > > > > -Gillian > > > > From: Scott Prentice [mailto:sp10 at leximation.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:27 AM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.c

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-29 Thread Liz Fraley
: > Thanks, Scott! > > ** ** > > -Gillian > > ** ** > > *From:* Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:27 AM > *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com; Gillian Flato > *Subject:* Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box s

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-28 Thread Liz Fraley
: > Thanks, Scott! > > ** ** > > -Gillian > > ** ** > > *From:* Scott Prentice [mailto:sp10 at leximation.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:27 AM > *To:* framers at lists.frameusers.com; Gillian Flato > *Subject:* Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box s

RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-28 Thread Gillian Flato
Thanks, Scott! -Gillian From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:27 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Gillian Flato Subject: Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution Hi Gillian... As I'm sure you're aware, I'm a big proponent of

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-28 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker 10 comes with DTDs, EDDs, and templates, but those did not give me enough to go on to figure out how to create a project. The documentation was no help, nor were the resources people on the Structured FrameMaker forum pointed me to adequate: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4094654 On T

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Gillian Flato
Thanks, Scott! -Gillian From: Scott Prentice [mailto:s...@leximation.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:27 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Gillian Flato Subject: Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution Hi Gillian... As I'm sure you're aware, I'm a big proponent

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Gillian Flato
Thanks Craig. Appreciate the response. -Gillian From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:50 AM To: Gillian Flato; framers Subject: RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution I am currently working a contract for a company where we are writing DITA files

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Gillian Flato
Thanks for the response. -Gillian From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:shutti...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:10 AM To: Gillian Flato Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution Hello Gillian Regarding your question about TCS4 being the

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
FrameMaker 10 comes with DTDs, EDDs, and templates, but those did not give me enough to go on to figure out how to create a project. The documentation was no help, nor were the resources people on the Structured FrameMaker forum pointed me to adequate: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4094654 On T

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
When I evaluated Oxygen XML, it seemed like a full-featured single-source help authoring tool much like Madcap Flare, except using DITA as its source format. Out-of-the-box web help and PDF output seemed of professional quality to me. I could have been productive immediately. TCS 3.5 / FrameMaker

RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Gillian Flato
Thanks Craig. Appreciate the response. -Gillian From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 6:50 AM To: Gillian Flato; framers Subject: RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution I am currently working a contract for a company where we are writing DITA files

RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Gillian Flato
Thanks for the response. -Gillian From: Roger Shuttleworth [mailto:shutti...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:10 AM To: Gillian Flato Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution Hello Gillian Regarding your question about TCS4 being the

RE: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Craig Ede
interface complaints for Adobe to consider as areas where improvement is desired (at least from this user). Thanks. Craig EdeFrom: gillian.fl...@nexenta.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:08:51 + I went to a

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello Gillian Regarding your question about TCS4 being the "complete solution" for DITA. You have to analyze that statement rather carefully and remember it's from the evangelist! The comments below are from a TCS4 user. First, several of the components of TCS4 have nothing at all to do with

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Robert Lauriston
When I evaluated Oxygen XML, it seemed like a full-featured single-source help authoring tool much like Madcap Flare, except using DITA as its source format. Out-of-the-box web help and PDF output seemed of professional quality to me. I could have been productive immediately. TCS 3.5 / FrameMaker

Re: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Gillian... As I'm sure you're aware, I'm a big proponent of using Frame for DITA authoring, but I do try to remain reasonably objective when comparing it to other DITA tools. The big thing that sets TCS apart from other DITA authoring tools is that in addition to authoring, it provides a

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Gillian... As I'm sure you're aware, I'm a big proponent of using Frame for DITA authoring, but I do try to remain reasonably objective when comparing it to other DITA tools. The big thing that sets TCS apart from other DITA authoring tools is that in addition to authoring, it provides a mo

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Craig Ede
interface complaints for Adobe to consider as areas where improvement is desired (at least from this user). Thanks. Craig EdeFrom: Gillian.Flato at nexenta.com To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:08:51 + I went to a

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Roger Shuttleworth
Hello Gillian Regarding your question about TCS4 being the "complete solution" for DITA. You have to analyze that statement rather carefully and remember it's from the evangelist! The comments below are from a TCS4 user. First, several of the components of TCS4 have nothing at all to do with D

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-27 Thread Gillian Flato
I went to a presentation last week given by Maxwell Hoffman from Adobe on TCS v4.x. He stated that TCS v4.x is an out-of-the-box DITA solution that contains DTDs, EDDs, etc, so you don't have to go to third-party solutions to obtain the necessary pieces. Has anyone used TCS v4.x as a complete D

TCS 4 as DITA out-of-the-box solution

2012-11-26 Thread Gillian Flato
I went to a presentation last week given by Maxwell Hoffman from Adobe on TCS v4.x. He stated that TCS v4.x is an out-of-the-box DITA solution that contains DTDs, EDDs, etc, so you don't have to go to third-party solutions to obtain the necessary pieces. Has anyone used TCS v4.x as a complete D