Re: Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-05 Thread Carol J. Elkins
I can verify this behavior. on FM7, fully patched, Win2K. My books 
are generally 15+ files. It has been a very costly bug for me. Now 
that I expect it to happen, I check the order of the files in FM 
before generating my final PDF to ensure that neither I nor my client 
has any nasty surprises.

Carol

At 01:00 AM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
found that I can reliably make a file move within today's book by 
renaming another file in the book, from the book window. If I rename 
something and end the renaming by pressing the Enter key, all is 
well. But if I end the renaming by clicking on another filename in 
the book, the file I clicked on moves within the book, at the end of 
FM's rename and save process. The file I renamed stays in place. 
Weird. And very annoying - my instinct is to end the renaming by 
clicking somewhere.

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Re: Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-05 Thread Terry Smith
This bug still occurs in FrameMaker 8.0p273, XP SP 2.

-Terry Smith

=== Rebecca wrote:
FM7.0, fully patched, XP SP 2.
I found that I can reliably make a file move within today's book by renaming 
another file in the book, from the book window. If I rename something and end 
the renaming by pressing the Enter key, all is well. But if I end the renaming 
by clicking on another 
filename in the book, the file I clicked on moves within the book, at the end 
of FM's rename and save process. The file I renamed stays in place. Weird. And 
very annoying - my instinct is to end the renaming by clicking somewhere


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Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-05 Thread rebecca officer
Hi Rob

I was building a heap of files into a large book today, and saw some of the 
files go out of order in the book. Mostly I'd have just assumed I'd carelessly 
dragged them, but your email prompted me to look a bit more closely.

FM7.0, fully patched, XP SP 2.

I found that I can reliably make a file move within today's book by renaming 
another file in the book, from the book window. If I rename something and end 
the renaming by pressing the Enter key, all is well. But if I end the renaming 
by clicking on another filename in the book, the file I clicked on moves within 
the book, at the end of FM's rename and save process. The file I renamed stays 
in place. Weird. And very annoying - my instinct is to end the renaming by 
clicking somewhere.

Even more annoying, I tried it on a 4-file book and it didn't happen. So it's 
reproducable within my 54-file book, but not within the shorter one.  I'm still 
calling it a bug.

Cheers, Rebecca


>>>  5/03/08 00:38 >>>
Hi Rob:

I've had the same problem but it's because when I open a file by 
double-clicking on it, I accidentally move the mouse and drag it below the 
following file. It doesn't take more than a little movement sometimes. 
It's not clear to me whether the same thing is happening to you; are they 
only shifting when you save the book?

I have the same version of FrameMaker and the same operating system as 
you.

Fei Min

Fei Min Lorente
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AMI Semiconductor Canada Company
Tel: +1.519.884.9696 ext.2297
Fax: +1.519.884.0228
Cell phone: +1.519.831.4931
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Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-05 Thread Carol J. Elkins
I can verify this behavior. on FM7, fully patched, Win2K. My books 
are generally 15+ files. It has been a very costly bug for me. Now 
that I "expect" it to happen, I check the order of the files in FM 
before generating my final PDF to ensure that neither I nor my client 
has any nasty surprises.

Carol

At 01:00 AM 3/5/2008, you wrote:
>found that I can reliably make a file move within today's book by 
>renaming another file in the book, from the book window. If I rename 
>something and end the renaming by pressing the Enter key, all is 
>well. But if I end the renaming by clicking on another filename in 
>the book, the file I clicked on moves within the book, at the end of 
>FM's rename and save process. The file I renamed stays in place. 
>Weird. And very annoying - my instinct is to end the renaming by 
>clicking somewhere.

**
Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC
Making Information Understandable
Phone: 719-948-3773
mailto:celkins at awrittenword.com
http://www.awrittenword.com
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Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-05 Thread Terry Smith
This bug still occurs in FrameMaker 8.0p273, XP SP 2.

-Terry Smith

=== Rebecca wrote:
FM7.0, fully patched, XP SP 2.
I found that I can reliably make a file move within today's book by renaming 
another file in the book, from the book window. If I rename something and end 
the renaming by pressing the Enter key, all is well. But if I end the renaming 
by clicking on another 
filename in the book, the file I clicked on moves within the book, at the end 
of FM's rename and save process. The file I renamed stays in place. Weird. And 
very annoying - my instinct is to end the renaming by clicking somewhere




Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers:
I am sure this is just me doing something really dumb, but I have noticed it 
quite a few times. My files in my booked publications OCCASIONALLY change 
their order. They usually move one or two places. The files are not problem 
files.

Is the Save book option doing its job properly, or should I save all open 
files? How can I firm up the order.

The first indication is that the changed pagination warning comes up when 
updating the indexes. When I ignore this and subsequently save and exit, I 
get the same pagination warnings when I reopen.

I am using the latest FM 7.2 with the p157 updates on an IBM PC XP with all 
updates SE.

Robert C.-H. Shell


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Re: Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread FeiMin_Lorente
Hi Rob:

I've had the same problem but it's because when I open a file by 
double-clicking on it, I accidentally move the mouse and drag it below the 
following file. It doesn't take more than a little movement sometimes. 
It's not clear to me whether the same thing is happening to you; are they 
only shifting when you save the book?

I have the same version of FrameMaker and the same operating system as 
you.

Fei Min

Fei Min Lorente
Senior Technical Communicator
AMI Semiconductor Canada Company
Tel: +1.519.884.9696 ext.2297
Fax: +1.519.884.0228
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Re: Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread rebecca officer
Hi Rob

I was building a heap of files into a large book today, and saw some of the 
files go out of order in the book. Mostly I'd have just assumed I'd carelessly 
dragged them, but your email prompted me to look a bit more closely.

FM7.0, fully patched, XP SP 2.

I found that I can reliably make a file move within today's book by renaming 
another file in the book, from the book window. If I rename something and end 
the renaming by pressing the Enter key, all is well. But if I end the renaming 
by clicking on another filename in the book, the file I clicked on moves within 
the book, at the end of FM's rename and save process. The file I renamed stays 
in place. Weird. And very annoying - my instinct is to end the renaming by 
clicking somewhere.

Even more annoying, I tried it on a 4-file book and it didn't happen. So it's 
reproducable within my 54-file book, but not within the shorter one.  I'm still 
calling it a bug.

Cheers, Rebecca


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/03/08 00:38 
Hi Rob:

I've had the same problem but it's because when I open a file by 
double-clicking on it, I accidentally move the mouse and drag it below the 
following file. It doesn't take more than a little movement sometimes. 
It's not clear to me whether the same thing is happening to you; are they 
only shifting when you save the book?

I have the same version of FrameMaker and the same operating system as 
you.

Fei Min

Fei Min Lorente
Senior Technical Communicator
AMI Semiconductor Canada Company
Tel: +1.519.884.9696 ext.2297
Fax: +1.519.884.0228
Cell phone: +1.519.831.4931
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Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread Rob Shell
Hi Framers:
I am sure this is just me doing something really dumb, but I have noticed it 
quite a few times. My files in my booked publications OCCASIONALLY change 
their order. They usually move one or two places. The files are not problem 
files.

Is the "Save book" option doing its job properly, or should I save all open 
files? How can I firm up the order.

The first indication is that the "changed pagination" warning comes up when 
updating the indexes. When I ignore this and subsequently save and exit, I 
get the same pagination warnings when I reopen.

I am using the latest FM 7.2 with the p157 updates on an IBM PC XP with all 
updates SE.

Robert C.-H. Shell




Unwanted re-ordering of files in booked publications

2008-03-04 Thread feimin_lore...@amis.com
Hi Rob:

I've had the same problem but it's because when I open a file by 
double-clicking on it, I accidentally move the mouse and drag it below the 
following file. It doesn't take more than a little movement sometimes. 
It's not clear to me whether the same thing is happening to you; are they 
only shifting when you save the book?

I have the same version of FrameMaker and the same operating system as 
you.

Fei Min

Fei Min Lorente
Senior Technical Communicator
AMI Semiconductor Canada Company
Tel: +1.519.884.9696 ext.2297
Fax: +1.519.884.0228
Cell phone: +1.519.831.4931
Email address: feimin_lorente at amis.com
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