Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?
Here's one for $70: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adobe-FrameMaker-7-0-for-Windows-WebWorks-Publisher-/141498984829?pt=US_Image_Video_Audio_Softwarehash=item20f1ff297d They claim the copy was never registered at Adobe. -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 08-Dec-14 3:44 AM, Hedley Finger wrote: I was thinking that there may be someone who bought a version, say 9, then did not upgrade for a a few years and the ability to upgrade had expired. If that person then bought a later version -- by necessity, not being able to upgrade -- it seems to me that they could transfer the licence for the older version, say 9, without any difficulties. By the way, does anybody have a support email address? I tried to find one but kept being sent round in circles, continually being directed back to community support, which ain't what's wanted. I just want to try out the above scenario on someone official at Adobe who can give a definitive answer. I am now living on a pension so cannot afford either the educational or full price of a new release. Regards, Hedley On 8 December 2014 at 09:59, Hedley Finger hedley.fin...@gmail.com wrote: FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0. But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0 who still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no longer upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their 9.0 licence (say) and CD to another person? I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very dodgy, and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses. Regards, Hedley -- 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia hedley.fin...@gmail.com Telephone 03 9836 4635 Mobile 0412 461 558 LinuxCounter.net registered computer576484 -- 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia hedley.fin...@gmail.com Telephone 03 9836 4635 Mobile 0412 461 558 LinuxCounter.net registered computer576484 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?
FWIW, I 'upgraded' from FrameMaker 6 to FrameMaker 7 for Mac years ago using a new unregistered upgrade copy obtained from eBay. It never gave me any problems. But I see that the title of this thread is 'used copies', and I guess that point has been well answered already. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?
That's true, but I didn't say it. FrameMaker 8 added Unicode support, which was a pretty radical change as regards fonts. FrameMaker 9 introduced the bad UI layer and lots of bugs that have never been fixed. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Once a version 7.2 license has been used for an upgrade, it is no longer available for sale (or transfer of license) any more – Robert Lauriston is right about that. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?
Ah, yes, I misremembered the e-mails - it was Scott Prentice's: Once a license has been upgraded, it's no longer able to be transferred, and would not be a legal license. ... ...scott Sorry about that, Robert! Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 9:36 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker? That's true, but I didn't say it. FrameMaker 8 added Unicode support, which was a pretty radical change as regards fonts. FrameMaker 9 introduced the bad UI layer and lots of bugs that have never been fixed. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: Once a version 7.2 license has been used for an upgrade, it is no longer available for sale (or transfer of license) any more – Robert Lauriston is right about that. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as syed.hos...@aeris.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?
FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0. But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0 who still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no longer upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their 9.0 licence (say) and CD to another person? I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very dodgy, and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses. Regards, Hedley -- 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia hedley.fin...@gmail.com https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=hedley.fin...@gmail.com Telephone 03 9836 4635 Mobile 0412 461 558 LinuxCounter.net registered computer 576484 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?
Adobe's KB article on license transfers: http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/transfer-product-license.html On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Hedley Finger hedley.fin...@gmail.com wrote: FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0. But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0 who still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no longer upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their 9.0 licence (say) and CD to another person? I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very dodgy, and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses. Regards, Hedley -- 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia hedley.fin...@gmail.com Telephone 03 9836 4635 Mobile 0412 461 558 LinuxCounter.net registered computer 576484 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?
Once a license has been upgraded, it's no longer able to be transferred, and would not be a legal license. If you can find a new in box or better yet unopened .. I'd think that's probably fine. I doubt seriously that anyone is using FrameMaker a a lure to install viruses. Not likely worth the effort. I'd avoid FM9 .. but FM8, 10, or 11 should be good. ...scott On 12/7/14 2:59 PM, Hedley Finger wrote: FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0. But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0 who still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no longer upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their 9.0 licence (say) and CD to another person? I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very dodgy, and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses. Regards, Hedley -- 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia hedley.fin...@gmail.com https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=hedley.fin...@gmail.com Telephone 03 9836 4635 Mobile 0412 461 558 LinuxCounter.net registered computer 576484 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as s...@leximation.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp14%40leximation.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?
I was thinking that there may be someone who bought a version, say 9, then did not upgrade for a a few years and the ability to upgrade had expired. If that person then bought a later version -- by necessity, not being able to upgrade -- it seems to me that they could transfer the licence for the older version, say 9, without any difficulties. By the way, does anybody have a support email address? I tried to find one but kept being sent round in circles, continually being directed back to community support, which ain't what's wanted. I just want to try out the above scenario on someone official at Adobe who can give a definitive answer. I am now living on a pension so cannot afford either the educational or full price of a new release. Regards, Hedley On 8 December 2014 at 09:59, Hedley Finger hedley.fin...@gmail.com wrote: FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0. But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0 who still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no longer upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their 9.0 licence (say) and CD to another person? I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very dodgy, and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses. Regards, Hedley -- 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia hedley.fin...@gmail.com https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=hedley.fin...@gmail.com Telephone 03 9836 4635 Mobile 0412 461 558 LinuxCounter.net registered computer 576484 -- 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia hedley.fin...@gmail.com Telephone 03 9836 4635 Mobile 0412 461 558 LinuxCounter.net registered computer 576484 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker?
Hi, Hedley. Once a version 7.2 license has been used for an upgrade, it is no longer available for sale (or transfer of license) any more – Robert Lauriston is right about that. But, as it happens, I have some 7.2 licenses (and the original Adobe disks) which were not upgraded, so can make those available if you want to buy one (or more?). I had posted here about these some time back, but our IT guys were slow in figuring out what to do at Adobe to get them transferred, so I could not follow up with the person who was interested in purchasing them. In any case, I can probably find these disks fairly quickly. If you can find out from Adobe what you might need from me to make the license transfer happen – since these were never used for upgrades – and are interested in getting one or two, please let me know. Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Hedley Finger Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 5:45 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: What is the situation with regards to buying used versions of FrameMaker? I was thinking that there may be someone who bought a version, say 9, then did not upgrade for a a few years and the ability to upgrade had expired. If that person then bought a later version -- by necessity, not being able to upgrade -- it seems to me that they could transfer the licence for the older version, say 9, without any difficulties. By the way, does anybody have a support email address? I tried to find one but kept being sent round in circles, continually being directed back to community support, which ain't what's wanted. I just want to try out the above scenario on someone official at Adobe who can give a definitive answer. I am now living on a pension so cannot afford either the educational or full price of a new release. Regards, Hedley On 8 December 2014 at 09:59, Hedley Finger hedley.fin...@gmail.commailto:hedley.fin...@gmail.com wrote: FrameMaker 7.2 was the last version I used, but the licence belonged to my employer. Now I want to start using it again but don't want to pay for 12.0. But there may be people out there who have successively upgraded to 12.0 who still have a 10.0, 9.0, or 8.0 installer CD in a drawer which is no longer upgradeable to 12.0. Are they legitimately able to transfer their 9.0 licence (say) and CD to another person? I googled for used copies of FrameMaker but the hits all looked very dodgy, and were possibly vehicles for installing viruses. Regards, Hedley -- 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia hedley.fin...@gmail.comhttps://mail.google.com/mail/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=hedley.fin...@gmail.com Telephone 03 9836 4635tel:03%209836%204635 Mobile 0412 461 558tel:0412%20461%20558 LinuxCounter.net registered computer 576484 -- 1/17 Glyndon Road, Camberwell VIC 3124, Australia hedley.fin...@gmail.commailto:hedley.fin...@gmail.com Telephone 03 9836 4635 Mobile 0412 461 558 LinuxCounter.net registered computer 576484 ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
