Re: book paginating woes
Laura, It's very likely that in the Book, the files are defined to start on right pages in a double-sided page setup. If this is the case, Frame will always add a blank left page, if necessary, in order to maintain consecutive running pages as it generates and updates the Book. In such settings, Frame will not end a file on a right page, and then continue the next file on a right page. It must account for a left page, even a blank one, in between. If you don't want any empty pages and don't care which side the files start, set the files in the Book to start on the next available page and to delete empty pages. Then, save the Book and reupdate it. HTH, -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com On 1/9/07, Laura Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two files in a book that refuse to leave out blank even pages. I go through and reset the pagination so that both the book and files match pagination and numbering settings to delete blank pages, and each time I go to regenerate the TOC, in returns that extra blank page. I've gone into my master pages and tried to reapply them, I've reimported new page layouts from files that I know work as they are supposed to, and I've even copied the text (we're only talking one page here of an introduction), and the new files takes on the same troublesome attributes. This is only an 25 page document, but the chapter files are similar to another book so I'm reluctant to put all the text into a single file for the sake of consistency. The only hint of a potential error that I get is that there may be something on the page about an irregular column layout. The specific message is that the new column layout seems to overlap other objects on some body pages, am I sure I want to apply the new column layout? and the specific page that is supposedly impacted. Even though I click Yes, nothing changes. I have nothing but text on the page, there are no residual graphics, nor residual conditional or hidden text for that matter. Another error message that I've seen is that there is no mapping in the reference pages for my master page. However, I would have thought that if there were an error in that regard that it would have been corrected when I reimported my new formats from a good file. Could those vague errors be complete misdirection? Any suggestions would be most heartening. Thanks! Laura Larson Electronic Clearing House, Inc. 355 Union Blvd, Ste 301 Lakewood, CO 80228 (303) 650-0474 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: book paginating woes
A few helpful expansions on David's excellent response: It's the Start On setting of the *following* file in the book that causes the behavior you describe in your problem files. If you get a blank verso page in a chapter, the second place to look (after making sure that the current chapter is set to Delete Empty Pages) is the pagination properties of the next file in the book. Also note that the Next Available option that David mentions is only available from the book window. The pagination properties you set in the individual chapter apply if you ever print that chapter on its own, and without the context of the book there is no notion of next available. Finally, you can set the pagination properties for a group of chapter files in the same operation by selecting the chapters in the book window and then right-clicking and choosing Pagination from the pop-up menu. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Schor Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:22 AM To: Laura Larson Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: book paginating woes Laura, It's very likely that in the Book, the files are defined to start on right pages in a double-sided page setup. If this is the case, Frame will always add a blank left page, if necessary, in order to maintain consecutive running pages as it generates and updates the Book. In such settings, Frame will not end a file on a right page, and then continue the next file on a right page. It must account for a left page, even a blank one, in between. If you don't want any empty pages and don't care which side the files start, set the files in the Book to start on the next available page and to delete empty pages. Then, save the Book and reupdate it. HTH, -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.marvell.com On 1/9/07, Laura Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two files in a book that refuse to leave out blank even pages. I go through and reset the pagination so that both the book and files match pagination and numbering settings to delete blank pages, and each time I go to regenerate the TOC, in returns that extra blank page. I've gone into my master pages and tried to reapply them, I've reimported new page layouts from files that I know work as they are supposed to, and I've even copied the text (we're only talking one page here of an introduction), and the new files takes on the same troublesome attributes. This is only an 25 page document, but the chapter files are similar to another book so I'm reluctant to put all the text into a single file for the sake of consistency. The only hint of a potential error that I get is that there may be something on the page about an irregular column layout. The specific message is that the new column layout seems to overlap other objects on some body pages, am I sure I want to apply the new column layout? and the specific page that is supposedly impacted. Even though I click Yes, nothing changes. I have nothing but text on the page, there are no residual graphics, nor residual conditional or hidden text for that matter. Another error message that I've seen is that there is no mapping in the reference pages for my master page. However, I would have thought that if there were an error in that regard that it would have been corrected when I reimported my new formats from a good file. Could those vague errors be complete misdirection? Any suggestions would be most heartening. Thanks! Laura Larson Electronic Clearing House, Inc. 355 Union Blvd, Ste 301 Lakewood, CO 80228 (303) 650-0474 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
book paginating woes
Laura, It's very likely that in the Book, the files are defined to start on right pages in a double-sided page setup. If this is the case, Frame will always add a blank left page, if necessary, in order to maintain consecutive running pages as it generates and updates the Book. In such settings, Frame will not end a file on a right page, and then continue the next file on a right page. It must account for a left page, even a blank one, in between. If you don't want any empty pages and don't care which side the files start, set the files in the Book to start on the "next available page" and to "delete empty pages." Then, save the Book and reupdate it. HTH, -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: dschor at marvell.com Web: www.marvell.com On 1/9/07, Laura Larson wrote: > I have two files in a book that refuse to leave out blank even pages. I > go through and reset the pagination so that both the book and files > match pagination and numbering settings to delete blank pages, and each > time I go to regenerate the TOC, in returns that extra blank page. > > I've gone into my master pages and tried to reapply them, I've > reimported new page layouts from files that I know work as they are > supposed to, and I've even copied the text (we're only talking one page > here of an introduction), and the new files takes on the same > troublesome attributes. This is only an 25 page document, but the > chapter files are similar to another book so I'm reluctant to put all > the text into a single file for the sake of consistency. > > The only hint of a potential error that I get is that there may be > something on the page about an irregular column layout. > > The specific message is that the new column layout seems to overlap > other objects on some body pages, am I sure I want to apply the new > column layout? and the specific page that is supposedly impacted. Even > though I click Yes, nothing changes. I have nothing but text on the > page, there are no residual graphics, nor residual conditional or hidden > text for that matter. > > Another error message that I've seen is that there is no mapping in the > reference pages for my master page. However, I would have thought that > if there were an error in that regard that it would have been corrected > when I reimported my new formats from a "good" file. > > Could those vague errors be complete misdirection? Any suggestions would > be most heartening. > > Thanks! > > Laura Larson > Electronic Clearing House, Inc. > 355 Union Blvd, Ste 301 > Lakewood, CO 80228 > (303) 650-0474 > llarson at echo-inc.com > > ___
book paginating woes
A few helpful expansions on David's excellent response: It's the Start On setting of the *following* file in the book that causes the behavior you describe in your "problem" files. If you get a blank verso page in a chapter, the second place to look (after making sure that the current chapter is set to Delete Empty Pages) is the pagination properties of the next file in the book. Also note that the Next Available option that David mentions is only available from the book window. The pagination properties you set in the individual chapter apply if you ever print that chapter on its own, and without the context of the book there is no notion of "next available". Finally, you can set the pagination properties for a group of chapter files in the same operation by selecting the chapters in the book window and then right-clicking and choosing Pagination from the pop-up menu. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Schor Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:22 AM To: Laura Larson Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: book paginating woes Laura, It's very likely that in the Book, the files are defined to start on right pages in a double-sided page setup. If this is the case, Frame will always add a blank left page, if necessary, in order to maintain consecutive running pages as it generates and updates the Book. In such settings, Frame will not end a file on a right page, and then continue the next file on a right page. It must account for a left page, even a blank one, in between. If you don't want any empty pages and don't care which side the files start, set the files in the Book to start on the "next available page" and to "delete empty pages." Then, save the Book and reupdate it. HTH, -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: dschor at marvell.com Web: www.marvell.com On 1/9/07, Laura Larson wrote: > I have two files in a book that refuse to leave out blank even pages. I > go through and reset the pagination so that both the book and files > match pagination and numbering settings to delete blank pages, and each > time I go to regenerate the TOC, in returns that extra blank page. > > I've gone into my master pages and tried to reapply them, I've > reimported new page layouts from files that I know work as they are > supposed to, and I've even copied the text (we're only talking one page > here of an introduction), and the new files takes on the same > troublesome attributes. This is only an 25 page document, but the > chapter files are similar to another book so I'm reluctant to put all > the text into a single file for the sake of consistency. > > The only hint of a potential error that I get is that there may be > something on the page about an irregular column layout. > > The specific message is that the new column layout seems to overlap > other objects on some body pages, am I sure I want to apply the new > column layout? and the specific page that is supposedly impacted. Even > though I click Yes, nothing changes. I have nothing but text on the > page, there are no residual graphics, nor residual conditional or hidden > text for that matter. > > Another error message that I've seen is that there is no mapping in the > reference pages for my master page. However, I would have thought that > if there were an error in that regard that it would have been corrected > when I reimported my new formats from a "good" file. > > Could those vague errors be complete misdirection? Any suggestions would > be most heartening. > > Thanks! > > Laura Larson > Electronic Clearing House, Inc. > 355 Union Blvd, Ste 301 > Lakewood, CO 80228 > (303) 650-0474 > llarson at echo-inc.com > > ___
book paginating woes
The file settings of the following file *did* indeed seem to be the issue. Thank you so much Fred, and to all who responded. -Laura -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:00 AM To: Laura Larson; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: book paginating woes A few helpful expansions on David's excellent response: It's the Start On setting of the *following* file in the book that causes the behavior you describe in your "problem" files. If you get a blank verso page in a chapter, the second place to look (after making sure that the current chapter is set to Delete Empty Pages) is the pagination properties of the next file in the book. Also note that the Next Available option that David mentions is only available from the book window. The pagination properties you set in the individual chapter apply if you ever print that chapter on its own, and without the context of the book there is no notion of "next available". Finally, you can set the pagination properties for a group of chapter files in the same operation by selecting the chapters in the book window and then right-clicking and choosing Pagination from the pop-up menu. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Schor Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 3:22 AM To: Laura Larson Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: book paginating woes Laura, It's very likely that in the Book, the files are defined to start on right pages in a double-sided page setup. If this is the case, Frame will always add a blank left page, if necessary, in order to maintain consecutive running pages as it generates and updates the Book. In such settings, Frame will not end a file on a right page, and then continue the next file on a right page. It must account for a left page, even a blank one, in between. If you don't want any empty pages and don't care which side the files start, set the files in the Book to start on the "next available page" and to "delete empty pages." Then, save the Book and reupdate it. HTH, -- David Schor Senior Technical Writer RADLAN, a Marvell Company Tel: (+972) 3 7662823 Cellular: (+972) 54 4788253 E-mail: dschor at marvell.com Web: www.marvell.com On 1/9/07, Laura Larson wrote: > I have two files in a book that refuse to leave out blank even pages. I > go through and reset the pagination so that both the book and files > match pagination and numbering settings to delete blank pages, and each > time I go to regenerate the TOC, in returns that extra blank page. > > I've gone into my master pages and tried to reapply them, I've > reimported new page layouts from files that I know work as they are > supposed to, and I've even copied the text (we're only talking one page > here of an introduction), and the new files takes on the same > troublesome attributes. This is only an 25 page document, but the > chapter files are similar to another book so I'm reluctant to put all > the text into a single file for the sake of consistency. > > The only hint of a potential error that I get is that there may be > something on the page about an irregular column layout. > > The specific message is that the new column layout seems to overlap > other objects on some body pages, am I sure I want to apply the new > column layout? and the specific page that is supposedly impacted. Even > though I click Yes, nothing changes. I have nothing but text on the > page, there are no residual graphics, nor residual conditional or hidden > text for that matter. > > Another error message that I've seen is that there is no mapping in the > reference pages for my master page. However, I would have thought that > if there were an error in that regard that it would have been corrected > when I reimported my new formats from a "good" file. > > Could those vague errors be complete misdirection? Any suggestions would > be most heartening. > > Thanks! > > Laura Larson > Electronic Clearing House, Inc. > 355 Union Blvd, Ste 301 > Lakewood, CO 80228 > (303) 650-0474 > llarson at echo-inc.com > > ___
book paginating woes
I have two files in a book that refuse to leave out blank even pages. I go through and reset the pagination so that both the book and files match pagination and numbering settings to delete blank pages, and each time I go to regenerate the TOC, in returns that extra blank page. I've gone into my master pages and tried to reapply them, I've reimported new page layouts from files that I know work as they are supposed to, and I've even copied the text (we're only talking one page here of an introduction), and the new files takes on the same troublesome attributes. This is only an 25 page document, but the chapter files are similar to another book so I'm reluctant to put all the text into a single file for the sake of consistency. The only hint of a potential error that I get is that there may be something on the page about an irregular column layout. The specific message is that the new column layout seems to overlap other objects on some body pages, am I sure I want to apply the new column layout? and the specific page that is supposedly impacted. Even though I click Yes, nothing changes. I have nothing but text on the page, there are no residual graphics, nor residual conditional or hidden text for that matter. Another error message that I've seen is that there is no mapping in the reference pages for my master page. However, I would have thought that if there were an error in that regard that it would have been corrected when I reimported my new formats from a good file. Could those vague errors be complete misdirection? Any suggestions would be most heartening. Thanks! Laura Larson Electronic Clearing House, Inc. 355 Union Blvd, Ste 301 Lakewood, CO 80228 (303) 650-0474 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
book paginating woes
I have two files in a book that refuse to leave out blank even pages. I go through and reset the pagination so that both the book and files match pagination and numbering settings to delete blank pages, and each time I go to regenerate the TOC, in returns that extra blank page. I've gone into my master pages and tried to reapply them, I've reimported new page layouts from files that I know work as they are supposed to, and I've even copied the text (we're only talking one page here of an introduction), and the new files takes on the same troublesome attributes. This is only an 25 page document, but the chapter files are similar to another book so I'm reluctant to put all the text into a single file for the sake of consistency. The only hint of a potential error that I get is that there may be something on the page about an irregular column layout. The specific message is that the new column layout seems to overlap other objects on some body pages, am I sure I want to apply the new column layout? and the specific page that is supposedly impacted. Even though I click Yes, nothing changes. I have nothing but text on the page, there are no residual graphics, nor residual conditional or hidden text for that matter. Another error message that I've seen is that there is no mapping in the reference pages for my master page. However, I would have thought that if there were an error in that regard that it would have been corrected when I reimported my new formats from a "good" file. Could those vague errors be complete misdirection? Any suggestions would be most heartening. Thanks! Laura Larson Electronic Clearing House, Inc. 355 Union Blvd, Ste 301 Lakewood, CO 80228 (303) 650-0474 llarson at echo-inc.com
