RE: vsd flow charts

2010-01-20 Thread Zeller, Barbara
 
Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. Sorry about the delay in MY
response since I posted the question. Been away from work. I appreciated all
the tips I got. For this situation, I ended up importing the Visio drawings
as PDFs and it worked great! 
 
Thanks again,
Barbara Zeller

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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:06 PM
To: Zeller, Barbara; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: vsd flow charts

Zeller, Barbara asked: 
 
 What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into 
 FrameMaker?
 I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2.
Would
 appreciate any tips.

If the results are fuzzy, I'm guessing you're exporting to JPEG, probably the
worst choice (it's for photos, not drawings). But any raster (bitmap) image
format is a bad idea. And Visio's export filters (including those suitable
for vector graphics -- EPS and WMF/EMF) have a poor reputation. 

IMHO, PDF is by far the best option. If you have a recent full version of
Acrobat, and it was installed after Office/Visio, it should have installed
the PDFMaker plug-in, adding PDF buttons and menu to your Office apps,
including Visio. That makes it dead simple; once you set PDF options once, it
will take just a button click to create a new PDF when you change the
drawing. 

If that's not your situation, but you have Distiller, you can print your
Visio drawings to the Adobe PDF printer. 

In either case, if your Visio files contain multiple drawings, the PDF will
contain multiple pages. In FM, when you select a multi-page PDF to import, a
dialog appears in which you choose the page you want (there's a preview if
you've forgotten the page number). 

Helpful hint: When you create Visio drawings for import into FM, figure out
what size you want them to be on the FM page, and make the drawing page that
size (e.g., if you want them to span a 6 text column, then in Visio, use a
custom page 6 wide). It will simplify your life if your drawings don't need
to be scaled on import. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
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vsd flow charts

2010-01-20 Thread Zeller, Barbara

Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. Sorry about the delay in MY
response since I posted the question. Been away from work. I appreciated all
the tips I got. For this situation, I ended up importing the Visio drawings
as PDFs and it worked great! 

Thanks again,
Barbara Zeller

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 1:06 PM
To: Zeller, Barbara; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: vsd flow charts

Zeller, Barbara asked: 

> What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into 
> FrameMaker?
> I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2.
Would
> appreciate any tips.

If the results are fuzzy, I'm guessing you're exporting to JPEG, probably the
worst choice (it's for photos, not drawings). But any raster (bitmap) image
format is a bad idea. And Visio's export filters (including those suitable
for vector graphics -- EPS and WMF/EMF) have a poor reputation. 

IMHO, PDF is by far the best option. If you have a recent full version of
Acrobat, and it was installed after Office/Visio, it should have installed
the PDFMaker plug-in, adding PDF buttons and menu to your Office apps,
including Visio. That makes it dead simple; once you set PDF options once, it
will take just a button click to create a new PDF when you change the
drawing. 

If that's not your situation, but you have Distiller, you can print your
Visio drawings to the Adobe PDF printer. 

In either case, if your Visio files contain multiple drawings, the PDF will
contain multiple pages. In FM, when you select a multi-page PDF to import, a
dialog appears in which you choose the page you want (there's a preview if
you've forgotten the page number). 

Helpful hint: When you create Visio drawings for import into FM, figure out
what size you want them to be on the FM page, and make the drawing page that
size (e.g., if you want them to span a 6" text column, then in Visio, use a
custom page 6" wide). It will simplify your life if your drawings don't need
to be scaled on import. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--







vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread Zeller, Barbara
What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into FrameMaker?
I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
appreciate any tips.
 
Thanks!
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RE: vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread Fred Ridder

Barbara Zeller asked:

 What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into FrameMaker?
 I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
 appreciate any tips.


Save As .wmf (or .emf) from Visio, then FileImportFile into FrameMaker.

Or else Print to PDF from Visio, and FileImportFile into FrameMaker.

Inserting the Visio figures as OLE objects works well for some users, but can 
cause issues downstream.

The one thing you shoud definitely avoid is saving the Visio figures in any 
sort of raster image format (TIFF, BMP, PNG, GIF, or especially JPEG, which is 
lossy as well as rasterized).

-Fred Ridder
  
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RE: vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread Flato, Gillian
I made mine into PNG files and imported them as images. Visio as a Save
as or export feature that lets you convert the vsd file into a graphic
image.

Thank you,
 
 
Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
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Milpitas, CA. 95035
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RE: vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread Fei Min Lorente
Hi Barbara:

I'm turning the Visio files into PDFs and importing them by reference
into FrameMaker 7.2 files. I can see them clearly in FrameMaker and they
display well when I print the FrameMaker book as a PDF or as HTML
(converted using Mif2Go).

Since my Distiller is automatically set to use password protection, the
Visio files turn into protected PDFs. I have to remember to remove the
security; otherwise, when I try to turn the book into a PDF file, it
fails on the figure.

BTW, I'm using Acrobat 6.0 Professional.

Fei Min Lorente 

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Subject: vsd flow charts

What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into
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I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
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RE: vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread Krishna Mukherjee

I save .vsd to .svg and import into Frame by reference. Works fine for my docs.

 

 

Krishna
 
 Subject: RE: vsd flow charts
 Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:47:22 -0700
 From: feimin.lore...@onsemi.com
 To: bzel...@tcfbank.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 
 Hi Barbara:
 
 I'm turning the Visio files into PDFs and importing them by reference
 into FrameMaker 7.2 files. I can see them clearly in FrameMaker and they
 display well when I print the FrameMaker book as a PDF or as HTML
 (converted using Mif2Go).
 
 Since my Distiller is automatically set to use password protection, the
 Visio files turn into protected PDFs. I have to remember to remove the
 security; otherwise, when I try to turn the book into a PDF file, it
 fails on the figure.
 
 BTW, I'm using Acrobat 6.0 Professional.
 
 Fei Min Lorente 
 
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Re: vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread Art Campbell
I'd second Fred's recommendation for converting Visio files to PDFs for
print, but for HTML final output, I usually just go directly to PNGs, as
Gillian does.

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 Barbara Zeller asked:

  What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into
 FrameMaker?
  I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
  appreciate any tips.


 Save As .wmf (or .emf) from Visio, then FileImportFile into FrameMaker.

 Or else Print to PDF from Visio, and FileImportFile into FrameMaker.

 Inserting the Visio figures as OLE objects works well for some users, but
 can cause issues downstream.

 The one thing you shoud definitely avoid is saving the Visio figures in any
 sort of raster image format (TIFF, BMP, PNG, GIF, or especially JPEG, which
 is lossy as well as rasterized).

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RE: vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread Combs, Richard
Zeller, Barbara asked: 
 
 What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into
 FrameMaker?
 I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2.
Would
 appreciate any tips.

If the results are fuzzy, I'm guessing you're exporting to JPEG,
probably the worst choice (it's for photos, not drawings). But any
raster (bitmap) image format is a bad idea. And Visio's export filters
(including those suitable for vector graphics -- EPS and WMF/EMF) have a
poor reputation. 

IMHO, PDF is by far the best option. If you have a recent full version
of Acrobat, and it was installed after Office/Visio, it should have
installed the PDFMaker plug-in, adding PDF buttons and menu to your
Office apps, including Visio. That makes it dead simple; once you set
PDF options once, it will take just a button click to create a new PDF
when you change the drawing. 

If that's not your situation, but you have Distiller, you can print your
Visio drawings to the Adobe PDF printer. 

In either case, if your Visio files contain multiple drawings, the PDF
will contain multiple pages. In FM, when you select a multi-page PDF to
import, a dialog appears in which you choose the page you want (there's
a preview if you've forgotten the page number). 

Helpful hint: When you create Visio drawings for import into FM, figure
out what size you want them to be on the FM page, and make the drawing
page that size (e.g., if you want them to span a 6 text column, then in
Visio, use a custom page 6 wide). It will simplify your life if your
drawings don't need to be scaled on import. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
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303-777-0436
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Re: vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread William Abernathy
WMF or EMF work fine. You can hard-import these, import by reference, or embed 
them as OLE objects. If you are confident nobody is going to muck about with 
your source, importation by reference is easiest, because you can update more 
or 
less on the fly from Visio. You just need to remember to save the chart as 
(wmf/emf) when you're done with your session. be careful not to leave any 
object 
in the image selected, or you'll end up saving just that object, which can make 
for some embarrassment, to be sure.

If you are concerned about poor source discipline, the best method may be to 
build your flowcharts directly in Frame, using its graphical features. It all 
depends on your work environment. There used to be a way to backdoor save and 
import from vsd into Frame, but MSFT plugged that hole, so you'd likely be 
stuck 
with redrawing if you opt to go this route.

I've found OLE implementation to be pretty spotty, but my experience is getting 
a little elderly, and perhaps they've fixed things in recent revs.

--William Abernathy

Zeller, Barbara wrote:
 What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into FrameMaker?
 I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
 appreciate any tips.
  
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2010-01-08 Thread Fred Ridder

Barbara Zeller asked:

> What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into FrameMaker?
> I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
> appreciate any tips.


Save As .wmf (or .emf) from Visio, then File>Import>File into FrameMaker.

Or else Print to PDF from Visio, and File>Import>File into FrameMaker.

Inserting the Visio figures as OLE objects works well for some users, but can 
cause issues downstream.

The one thing you shoud definitely avoid is saving the Visio figures in any 
sort of raster image format (TIFF, BMP, PNG, GIF, or especially JPEG, which is 
lossy as well as rasterized).

-Fred Ridder



vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread Flato, Gillian
I made mine into PNG files and imported them as images. Visio as a Save
as or export feature that lets you convert the vsd file into a graphic
image.

Thank you,


Gillian Flato
Technical Writer (Software)
nanometrics
1550 Buckeye Dr. 
Milpitas, CA. 95035
(408.545.6316
7  408.232.5911
* gflato at nanometrics.com


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2010-01-08 Thread Fei Min Lorente
Hi Barbara:

I'm turning the Visio files into PDFs and importing them by reference
into FrameMaker 7.2 files. I can see them clearly in FrameMaker and they
display well when I print the FrameMaker book as a PDF or as HTML
(converted using Mif2Go).

Since my Distiller is automatically set to use password protection, the
Visio files turn into protected PDFs. I have to remember to remove the
security; otherwise, when I try to turn the book into a PDF file, it
fails on the figure.

BTW, I'm using Acrobat 6.0 Professional.

Fei Min Lorente 

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Subject: vsd flow charts

What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into
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I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
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2010-01-08 Thread Krishna Mukherjee

I save .vsd to .svg and import into Frame by reference. Works fine for my docs.





Krishna

> Subject: RE: vsd flow charts
> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:47:22 -0700
> From: FeiMin.Lorente at onsemi.com
> To: bzeller at tcfbank.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> 
> Hi Barbara:
> 
> I'm turning the Visio files into PDFs and importing them by reference
> into FrameMaker 7.2 files. I can see them clearly in FrameMaker and they
> display well when I print the FrameMaker book as a PDF or as HTML
> (converted using Mif2Go).
> 
> Since my Distiller is automatically set to use password protection, the
> Visio files turn into protected PDFs. I have to remember to remove the
> security; otherwise, when I try to turn the book into a PDF file, it
> fails on the figure.
> 
> BTW, I'm using Acrobat 6.0 Professional.
> 
> Fei Min Lorente 
> 
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> Barbara
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:01 PM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: vsd flow charts
> 
> What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into
> FrameMaker?
> I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
> appreciate any tips.
> 
> Thanks!
> Barbara Zeller
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2010-01-08 Thread Art Campbell
I'd second Fred's recommendation for converting Visio files to PDFs for
print, but for HTML final output, I usually just go directly to PNGs, as
Gillian does.

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>
> Barbara Zeller asked:
>
> > What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into
> FrameMaker?
> > I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
> > appreciate any tips.
>
>
> Save As .wmf (or .emf) from Visio, then File>Import>File into FrameMaker.
>
> Or else Print to PDF from Visio, and File>Import>File into FrameMaker.
>
> Inserting the Visio figures as OLE objects works well for some users, but
> can cause issues downstream.
>
> The one thing you shoud definitely avoid is saving the Visio figures in any
> sort of raster image format (TIFF, BMP, PNG, GIF, or especially JPEG, which
> is lossy as well as rasterized).
>
> -Fred Ridder
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vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread Combs, Richard
Zeller, Barbara asked: 

> What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into
> FrameMaker?
> I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2.
Would
> appreciate any tips.

If the results are fuzzy, I'm guessing you're exporting to JPEG,
probably the worst choice (it's for photos, not drawings). But any
raster (bitmap) image format is a bad idea. And Visio's export filters
(including those suitable for vector graphics -- EPS and WMF/EMF) have a
poor reputation. 

IMHO, PDF is by far the best option. If you have a recent full version
of Acrobat, and it was installed after Office/Visio, it should have
installed the PDFMaker plug-in, adding PDF buttons and menu to your
Office apps, including Visio. That makes it dead simple; once you set
PDF options once, it will take just a button click to create a new PDF
when you change the drawing. 

If that's not your situation, but you have Distiller, you can print your
Visio drawings to the Adobe PDF printer. 

In either case, if your Visio files contain multiple drawings, the PDF
will contain multiple pages. In FM, when you select a multi-page PDF to
import, a dialog appears in which you choose the page you want (there's
a preview if you've forgotten the page number). 

Helpful hint: When you create Visio drawings for import into FM, figure
out what size you want them to be on the FM page, and make the drawing
page that size (e.g., if you want them to span a 6" text column, then in
Visio, use a custom page 6" wide). It will simplify your life if your
drawings don't need to be scaled on import. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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vsd flow charts

2010-01-08 Thread William Abernathy
WMF or EMF work fine. You can hard-import these, import by reference, or embed 
them as OLE objects. If you are confident nobody is going to muck about with 
your source, importation by reference is easiest, because you can update more 
or 
less on the fly from Visio. You just need to remember to save the chart as 
(wmf/emf) when you're done with your session. be careful not to leave any 
object 
in the image selected, or you'll end up saving just that object, which can make 
for some embarrassment, to be sure.

If you are concerned about poor source discipline, the best method may be to 
build your flowcharts directly in Frame, using its graphical features. It all 
depends on your work environment. There used to be a way to backdoor save and 
import from vsd into Frame, but MSFT plugged that hole, so you'd likely be 
stuck 
with redrawing if you opt to go this route.

I've found OLE implementation to be pretty spotty, but my experience is getting 
a little elderly, and perhaps they've fixed things in recent revs.

--William Abernathy

Zeller, Barbara wrote:
> What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into FrameMaker?
> I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
> appreciate any tips.
>  
> Thanks!
> Barbara Zeller


vsd flow charts

2010-01-07 Thread Zeller, Barbara
What is the best way to import flow charts from Visio (.vsd) into FrameMaker?
I'm getting some pretty fuzzy results. I am working in Frame 7.2. Would
appreciate any tips.

Thanks!
Barbara Zeller