Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Paul Findon
Framers, Following the recent discussion of FM features migrating to InDesign, here's a snippet from an interview between Adobe Co-Chairman John Warnock and Conrad Taylor, BCS Electronic Publishing Specialist Group in 2004. Paul Interviewer: Adobe has found itself in the situation of

Re: Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Thanks. Very helpful, indeed. Bodvar On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Paul Findon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Framers, Following the recent discussion of FM features migrating to InDesign, here's a snippet from an interview between Adobe Co-Chairman John Warnock and Conrad Taylor, BCS

Re: Backup folder in Frame 7.0?

2008-09-29 Thread Art Campbell
And building on that, you can, occasionally, convert them into a snapshot backup directory. Just move the files to a date-stamped directory of your choice: /project/August_10/ /project/August_20/ /project/August_30/ As you reopen and save files in FM, the .backup.fms are created again, so you

Re: Backup folder in Frame 7.0?

2008-09-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Jack, If you have FrameScript, you could write a script that would save the backup files in a user-specified folder. If you are interested in a FrameScript solution, please contact me offlist. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I like that FM

ANN: Improve Your FrameMaker Skills Web-Based Training Sessions

2008-09-29 Thread Shlomo Perets
NEW! Web-Based Training Sessions: Improve Your FrameMaker Skills (Part 1) 1 hour each (10am--11am PDT) * biweekly beginning October 16 Topics in Part 1: * Table Of Contents Demystified * Mastering Running Headers/Footers * Table Tips Tricks * Paragraph Overrides * Better Text Editing and

RE: Structure View Won't Appear

2008-09-29 Thread Fred Wersan
I had this problem a week or so ago. There is a Windows settings that forces all windows to show up on the visible part of the screen. I don't remember where or what it is, but I found it in windows Help (imagine that!). Fred -- Fred Wersan Senior Technical Writer MAK Technologies 68 Moulton

RE: Backup folder in Frame 7.0?

2008-09-29 Thread Peter Hirons
I would strongly suggest giving the folders numeric names in the mmdd format (e.g. 20080929) then you will be easily able to find the latest. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: 29 September 2008 12:34

Re: Backup folder in Frame 7.0?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Jack... I've got a plugin that will create the backup in a specified folder (in an absolute or relative location). One of these days I'll get around to posting it to my website, but if you (or anyone else) are interested in a beta version, contact me offlist. Cheers, ...scott Scott

RE: Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Lea Rush
Damn. Thanks for the heads' up. My hope is that once they consider InDesign to have incorporated Frame's features, they also make the migration of existing Frame projects reasonably simple. _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific

Re: Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Art Campbell
While it was good of Paul to repost from the archives, he noted that the interview was done in 2004. I think the only conclusion anyone could reach is that Adobe is still implementing on the plan that they brought forward four or five years ago. Nothing new there... Art Art Campbell [EMAIL

RE: Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread quills
What is so terribly sad is that Adobe has never really shown that it understands what FrameMaker is for. They have always had their head firmly in the designer/graphics artist/page layout camp. Scott At 8:57 AM -0700 9/29/08, Lea Rush wrote: Damn. Thanks for the heads' up. My hope is that once

Re: Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Lea: In case you missed it, I've noted some of the differences between FM and ID that make it difficult to accomplish perfect automated conversions in this thread: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-September/013757.html If your documents rely heavily on the problematic

RE: Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Combs, Richard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is so terribly sad is that Adobe has never really shown that it understands what FrameMaker is for. They have always had their head firmly in the designer/graphics artist/page layout camp. Hmm. Based on that interview excerpt, Warnock was firmly _not_ in the

RE: Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Lea Rush
Hi Peter, Thanks for the reminder and the link. Quite frankly, I'll be using Frame until it's metaphorically pried from my cold, dead fingers. I have a lot of duties aside from document creation and maintainence*, and the longer I can put off the inevitable learning curve, the better. *Yes, I'm

Re: Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Lea: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Lea Rush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Peter, Thanks for the reminder and the link. You're welcome. Quite frankly, I'll be using Frame until it's metaphorically pried from my cold, dead fingers. I have a lot of duties aside from document creation

RE: Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Lea Rush
Hi Dov, Thank you for the clarification. I've had other seemingly immortal software packages die out from under me, and it's good to hear that the increasingly Frame-like features of InDesign aren't indicative. This is yet another example of why having official vendor reps on a list like this is

Frame 7.2 and SiberSafe

2008-09-29 Thread Tony Tasillo
Does anyone use the content management system from SiberLogic? It's called SiberSafe. I was wondering if anyone has this CMS and if you do could you describe any issues you've had with it related to single source publishing, structured authoring using DITA/DocBook? Security issues when

RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.inifile? Can't find ini file

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Penney
Had to limit the search to the FrameMaker folder; was searching the entire local drive-my mistake! Thanks Scott -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:09 PM To: Scott Penney; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: missing

Changing Track Revisions display

2008-09-29 Thread Keith Soltys
Frame 8 includes a Track Text Edits feature that is similar to Microsoft Word's Track Changes. Inserted text shows up as green underlined and deleted text as red strikethough. It doesn't appear to be possible to change these settings. I would like to have deleted text hidden. I thought that Frame

Re: Changing Track Revisions display

2008-09-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Keith and Scott, You can indeed use FrameScript or the FDK to change the appearance of these conditions. They can be programmatically changed just like any other condition. However, the changes do not survive when you close and reopen the document. The solution I have used is a FrameScript

Importing files into FM8

2008-09-29 Thread Alan Litchfield
Hi all, When importing multiple files into a new FM 8 book the files are entered in precisely the reverse alpha-numeric order according to their file names. They have been named "Sect n1 Chap n2.fm" so that each section is comprised of more than one chapter. They are followed by Preface.fm,

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Paul Findon
Framers, Following the recent discussion of FM features migrating to InDesign, here's a snippet from an interview between Adobe Co-Chairman John Warnock and Conrad Taylor, BCS Electronic Publishing Specialist Group in 2004. Paul Interviewer: Adobe has found itself in the situation of

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Thanks. Very helpful, indeed. Bodvar On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Paul Findon wrote: > Framers, > > Following the recent discussion of FM features migrating to InDesign, > here's a snippet from an interview between Adobe Co-Chairman John > Warnock and Conrad Taylor, BCS Electronic

Backup folder in Frame 7.0?

2008-09-29 Thread Art Campbell
And building on that, you can, occasionally, convert them into a snapshot backup directory. Just move the files to a date-stamped directory of your choice: /project/August_10/ /project/August_20/ /project/August_30/ As you reopen and save files in FM, the .backup.fms are created again, so you

Backup folder in Frame 7.0?

2008-09-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Jack, If you have FrameScript, you could write a script that would save the backup files in a user-specified folder. If you are interested in a FrameScript solution, please contact me offlist. Thanks. Rick Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com >I like that FM

ANN: "Improve Your FrameMaker Skills" Web-Based Training Sessions

2008-09-29 Thread Shlomo Perets
NEW! Web-Based Training Sessions: Improve Your FrameMaker Skills (Part 1) 1 hour each (10am--11am PDT) * biweekly beginning October 16 Topics in Part 1: * Table Of Contents Demystified * Mastering Running Headers/Footers * Table Tips & Tricks * Paragraph Overrides * Better Text Editing and

Structure View Won't Appear

2008-09-29 Thread Fred Wersan
I had this problem a week or so ago. There is a Windows settings that forces all windows to show up on the visible part of the screen. I don't remember where or what it is, but I found it in windows Help (imagine that!). Fred -- Fred Wersan Senior Technical Writer MAK Technologies 68 Moulton

Backup folder in Frame 7.0?

2008-09-29 Thread Peter Hirons
I would strongly suggest giving the folders numeric names in the mmdd format (e.g. 20080929) then you will be easily able to find the latest. Peter -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art

Backup folder in Frame 7.0?

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Jack... I've got a plugin that will create the backup in a specified folder (in an absolute or relative location). One of these days I'll get around to posting it to my website, but if you (or anyone else) are interested in a "beta" version, contact me offlist. Cheers, ...scott Scott

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Lea Rush
Damn. Thanks for the heads' up. My hope is that once they consider InDesign to have incorporated Frame's features, they also make the migration of existing Frame projects reasonably simple. _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Art Campbell
While it was good of Paul to repost from the archives, he noted that the interview was done in 2004. I think the only conclusion anyone could reach is that Adobe is still implementing on the plan that they brought forward four or five years ago. Nothing new there... Art Art Campbell

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread qui...@airmail.net
What is so terribly sad is that Adobe has never really shown that it understands what FrameMaker is for. They have always had their head firmly in the designer/graphics artist/page layout camp. Scott At 8:57 AM -0700 9/29/08, Lea Rush wrote: >Damn. Thanks for the heads' up. My hope is that

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Lea: In case you missed it, I've noted some of the differences between FM and ID that make it difficult to accomplish perfect automated conversions in this thread: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2008-September/013757.html If your documents rely heavily on the problematic

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Combs, Richard
quills at airmail.net wrote: > What is so terribly sad is that Adobe has never really shown that it > understands what FrameMaker is for. They have always had their head > firmly in the designer/graphics artist/page layout camp. Hmm. Based on that interview excerpt, Warnock was firmly _not_ in

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Lea Rush
Hi Peter, Thanks for the reminder and the link. Quite frankly, I'll be using Frame until it's metaphorically pried from my cold, dead fingers. I have a lot of duties aside from document creation and maintainence*, and the longer I can put off the inevitable learning curve, the better. *Yes, I'm

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Lea: On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Lea Rush wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Thanks for the reminder and the link. You're welcome. > Quite frankly, I'll be using Frame > until it's metaphorically pried from my cold, dead fingers. I have a lot of > duties aside from document creation and

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Dov Isaacs
To be very specific about this (and to hopefully avoid the seemingly annual "FrameMaker is dead" ritual), there are absolutely NO plans within Adobe at this time to discontinue FrameMaker in favor of InDesign. The features added to InDesign that are "Framemaker-like" are specifically per the

Migrating features over to InDesign

2008-09-29 Thread Lea Rush
Hi Dov, Thank you for the clarification. I've had other seemingly immortal software packages die out from under me, and it's good to hear that the increasingly Frame-like features of InDesign aren't indicative. This is yet another example of why having official vendor reps on a list like this is

Frame 7.2 and SiberSafe

2008-09-29 Thread Tony Tasillo
Does anyone use the content management system from SiberLogic? It's called SiberSafe. I was wondering if anyone has this CMS and if you do could you describe any issues you've had with it related to single source publishing, structured authoring using DITA/DocBook? Security issues when

missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.inifile? Can't find ini file

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Penney
Had to limit the search to the FrameMaker folder; was searching the entire local drive-my mistake! Thanks Scott -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:09 PM To: Scott Penney; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject:

Changing Track Revisions display

2008-09-29 Thread Keith Soltys
Frame 8 includes a Track Text Edits feature that is similar to Microsoft Word's Track Changes. Inserted text shows up as green underlined and deleted text as red strikethough. It doesn't appear to be possible to change these settings. I would like to have deleted text hidden. I thought that Frame

Changing Track Revisions display

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Prentice
Hi Keith... As far as I've been able to tell .. these are conditions, but they are *special* conditions. They don't show up in the standard condition UI, and you can't easily change their appearance or hide/show state. If you export this to a MIF, you'll see that they look like normal

Changing Track Revisions display

2008-09-29 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Keith and Scott, You can indeed use FrameScript or the FDK to change the appearance of these conditions. They can be programmatically changed just like any other condition. However, the changes do not survive when you close and reopen the document. The solution I have used is a FrameScript