What is wrong with landline? Is it bad that it is easily
understandable? Should you really try to find a word that no none
understands without a Masters degree in English?
It seems to me that there is an ongoing snob for Latin-based words,
acronyms (Latin) and abbreviations (Latin) (or shorts
Hmm...we use POTS (plain old telephone service) but that probably won't work
for 6th graders! :)
Regards,
Dimi
Dimi Everette, Sr. Technical Writer
6500 River Place Blvd., Bldg. 6, Austin, TX 78730 | t: 512.372.6988 | f:
512.372.7001
Please consider your environmental responsibility
Maybe we should refer to mobile phones as PANS: Postmodern Ambulatory Nattering
Systems. Then we can have POTS and PANS.
Nadine
--- On Thu, 2/3/11, Everette, Dimi dimi.evere...@polycom.com wrote:
From: Everette, Dimi dimi.evere...@polycom.com
Subject: RE: Customer-friendly word for landline
Keep in mind your underlying reason for trying to differentiate between
different types of phone systems. Just because a phone is wired
doesn't mean that it's POTS .. an IP-based phone system may look just
like a POTS system, but technically, isn't (is VOIP considered a
landline .. I dunno).
Why is my plant ringing? ;-)
Yeah, I've worked in telecom but even then I found the term amusing.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Everette, Dimi
dimi.evere...@polycom.com wrote:
Hmm...we use POTS (plain old telephone service) but that probably won't work
for 6th graders! :)
--
Bill Swallow
On 04/02/2011 9:32 AM, Writer wrote:
Maybe we should refer to mobile phones as PANS: Postmodern Ambulatory
Nattering Systems. Then we can have POTS and PANS.
Nadine
When I worked at Nortel, we already had both POTS and PANS as acronyms.
(I just can't remember what the latter stood for,
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:52:46 -0800
From: s...@leximation.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Customer-friendly word for landline
Keep in mind your underlying reason for trying to differentiate between
different types of phone systems. Just because a phone is wired
The telecom industry (that I am in) has come up with so many acronyms and terms
for simple reasons:
_Unlike_ other industries, the need to interact (people and systems) between
multiple vendors/suppliers, multiple industry organizations and regulatory
bodies, and multiple _nations_, drives a
There is also a Federal Standard on the topic, by the way:
http://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/fs-1037/
Z
-Original Message-
From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:00 AM
To: 'Scott Prentice'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE:
And, an excellent site that covers all the terms we have mentioned so far:
http://www.telecomdictionary.com/telecom_dictionary_definitions.asp
Sorry to bombard people with info ... :)
Z
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
We did the Nortel Standard English for China and landline was a major
term for which there is no Mandarin.
The correct Controlled English method is to write. You can call on a
Mobile device or another type of telephone.
On Wall Street they use the term, Hoot and Holler phones - open lines
to
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote:
Keep in mind your underlying reason for trying to differentiate between
different types of phone systems. Just because a phone is wired doesn't
mean that it's POTS .. an IP-based phone system may look just like a POTS
To Vonage and Comcast it is.
Keep in mind your underlying reason for trying to differentiate between
different types of phone systems. Just because a phone is wired
doesn't mean that it's POTS .. an IP-based phone system may look just
like a POTS system, but technically, isn't (is VOIP
Oops. :(
I tend to also use the following site:
http://www.telecomdictionary.com/Telecom_Dictionary_Definitions.asp for
references.
Where landline is shown as:
TermDefinition
LandlineA conventional domestic or business telephone circuit. The term
landline applies to telephone
Clearly, context matters!
In the business I am in, wireless is cellular services (but not necessarily
other radios), and landline is equivalent to POTS (which includes VOIP
service to the house - from Vonage and others). :)
Z
-Original Message-
From:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
wrote:
Regardless of which, we _sometime_ refer internal people (and
customers) to this:
PANS = Peculiar and Novel Services. Or, Pretty Amazing New Stuff
(according to Harry Newton, used to describe ISDN).
--Karen
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I just discovered this but it's only true of that particular table.
Apparently the only way to get the custom bottom cell margin to work
is to set the bottom table cell margin to 0.
Custom bottom cell margin works fine in other tables. Must be some
corruption.
Pat
On Feb 3, 2011, at
I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.
I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to
11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the registration
marks.
Mac OS10 running parallels window 7
Did you turn off the Generate Acrobat Data option? As I recall, that disables
registration marks on the assumption that if you're turning on hyperlinks you
are producing an electronic deliverable rather than a master for printing.
-Fred Ridder
Subject: Registration marks missing
Date:
LMAO, great idea!
Regards,
Dimi
Dimi Everette, Sr. Technical Writer
6500 River Place Blvd., Bldg. 6, Austin, TX 78730 | t: 512.372.6988 | f:
512.372.7001
Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail
This communication (including any attachments) may
I worked in telecom back in the 80's and the acronymn POTS was always
used...plain old telephone service requiring bell to come out and install a
telephone jack in your home or business and then connect it to a BOX (local to
your neighbor) and then make connect to Central Office...That
On Stuart's rant, I want to add my distaste for the whole pod thing.
Not only has it taken me a long time to find a view (or whatever they
call it) that doesn't get in my way, there are some awful bugs in the
pods. Try deleting multiple variables or multiple conditions. After
you delete one, the
Scott,
What was the final size of the PDF? 11x17 or 8.5 x 11? Turn off the Generate
Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.
Thanks,
Brad
On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:
I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
didn't get any marks in
On 04/02/2011 2:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:
I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.
I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to
11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the registration
PREACH IT sister!
Not only is the Stalin gray interface fugly and depressing (and much
darker than Adobe's other fugly gray interfaces), the whole pod/docking
behavior is incredibly time-wasting. Everything seems to want to glue
itself into everything else! Maybe it's a sign of having become
Hi,
I know most, if not all of you, love Frame and would never consider using MS
Word. I too use Frame for most of my projects.
However, I have MS Word files that need to be maintained by other authors
(technical support), and these same files are used in my online help.
I basically have a
Not ready to go there, friends. Yes, the gray is drear, indeed -- total
agreement on that point!! And, no, Adobe's first incarnation of
customizable UIs for Frame that can be adjusted (and restored) on the
fly isn't perfect. But I can do things with it I never could before,
and, all in all, I
Yes, Jacob and his company does have a workaround. I unfortunately forgot about
it.
Nonetheless, it is a workaround hack and it doesn't change the fact that
Framemaker
does not yet currently have a fully and/or properly functioning method of
getting
proper DeviceCMYK printing or PDF exactly
Angela Akridge wrote:
I basically have a hybrid help system that calls both Frame source
and MS
Word source. I use WebWorks. The help output looks great, and a
customer
can't distinguish the underlying source. However, I need to link
(cross-reference/hyperlink) between these two sources.
Telephone?
What's wrong with landline?
Alan
On 4/02/2011, at 10:25 AM, Butler, Darren J CTR USAF AFMC WR-ALC/
ENGLTB wrote:
> Desk Phone?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: techwr-l-bounces+darren.butler.ctr=robins.af.mil at techwr-l.com
>
At 01:38 PM 4/02/2011, Ann Zdunczyk wrote:
>I worked for Western Electric/AT/Lucent as a technical writer and I am
>very familiar with POTS!!! It is what we called them.
That label is on one of the sockets on my Belkin ADSL router, which supports
VOIP. I had to look it up to discover that it
What is wrong with landline? Is it bad that it is easily
understandable? Should you really try to find a word that no none
understands without a Masters degree in English?
It seems to me that there is an ongoing snob for Latin-based words,
acronyms (Latin) and abbreviations (Latin) (or shorts
Maybe we should refer to mobile phones as PANS: Postmodern Ambulatory Nattering
Systems. Then we can have POTS and PANS.
Nadine
--- On Thu, 2/3/11, Everette, Dimi wrote:
> From: Everette, Dimi
> Subject: RE: Customer-friendly word for "landline"
> To: "Alan T Litchfield" , "Butler, Darren J
Why is my plant ringing? ;-)
Yeah, I've worked in telecom but even then I found the term amusing.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Everette, Dimi
wrote:
> Hmm...we use POTS (plain old telephone service) but that probably won't work
> for 6th graders! :)
--
Bill Swallow
Twitter: @techcommdood
On 04/02/2011 9:32 AM, Writer wrote:
> Maybe we should refer to mobile phones as PANS: Postmodern Ambulatory
> Nattering Systems. Then we can have POTS and PANS.
>
> Nadine
When I worked at Nortel, we already had both POTS and PANS as acronyms.
(I just can't remember what the latter stood for,
> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:52:46 -0800
> From: sp10 at leximation.com
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Customer-friendly word for "landline"
>
> Keep in mind your underlying reason for trying to differentiate between
> different types of phone systems. Just because a phone
The telecom industry (that I am in) has come up with so many acronyms and terms
for simple reasons:
_Unlike_ other industries, the need to interact (people and systems) between
multiple vendors/suppliers, multiple industry organizations and regulatory
bodies, and multiple _nations_, drives a
There is also a "Federal Standard" on the topic, by the way:
http://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/fs-1037/
Z
-Original Message-
From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 10:00 AM
To: 'Scott Prentice'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE:
And, an excellent site that covers all the terms we have mentioned so far:
http://www.telecomdictionary.com/telecom_dictionary_definitions.asp
Sorry to bombard people with info ... :)
Z
-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at
We did the Nortel Standard English for China and "landline" was a major
term for which there is no Mandarin.
The correct Controlled English method is to write. "You can call on a
Mobile device or another type of telephone".
On Wall Street they use the term, "Hoot and Holler phones" - open
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
> Keep in mind your underlying reason for trying to differentiate between
> different types of phone systems. Just because a phone is "wired" doesn't
> mean that it's POTS .. an IP-based phone system may look just like a POTS
> system, but
To Vonage and Comcast it is.
>> Keep in mind your underlying reason for trying to differentiate between
>> different types of phone systems. Just because a phone is "wired"
>> doesn't mean that it's POTS .. an IP-based phone system may look just
>> like a POTS system, but technically, isn't (is
Oops. :(
I tend to also use the following site:
http://www.telecomdictionary.com/Telecom_Dictionary_Definitions.asp for
references.
Where "landline" is shown as:
TermDefinition
LandlineA conventional domestic or business telephone circuit. The term
landline applies to telephone
Clearly, context matters!
In the business I am in, "wireless" is cellular services (but not necessarily
other radios), and "landline" is equivalent to POTS (which includes VOIP
service to the house - from Vonage and others). :)
Z
-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces at
On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)
wrote:
> Regardless of which, we _sometime_ refer internal people (and
> customers) to this:
>
>
>
PANS = Peculiar and Novel Services. Or, Pretty Amazing New Stuff
(according to Harry Newton, used to describe ISDN).
--Karen
I just discovered this but it's only true of that particular table.
Apparently the only way to get the custom bottom cell margin to work
is to set the bottom table cell margin to 0.
Custom bottom cell margin works fine in other tables. Must be some
corruption.
Pat
On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:30
I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.
I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to
11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the registration
marks.
Mac OS10 running parallels > window 7
Did you turn off the "Generate Acrobat Data" option? As I recall, that disables
registration marks on the assumption that if you're turning on hyperlinks you
are producing an electronic deliverable rather than a master for printing.
-Fred Ridder
> Subject: Registration marks missing
> Date:
LMAO, great idea!
Regards,
Dimi
Dimi Everette, Sr. Technical Writer
6500 River Place Blvd., Bldg. 6, Austin, TX 78730? | t: 512.372.6988 | f:
512.372.7001
?Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail
?
This communication (including any attachments) may
I worked in telecom back in the 80's and the acronymn POTS was always
used...plain old telephone service requiring bell to come out and install a
telephone jack in your home or business and then connect it to a BOX (local to
your neighbor) and then make connect to Central Office...That
On Stuart's rant, I want to add my distaste for the whole pod thing.
Not only has it taken me a long time to find a view (or whatever they
call it) that doesn't get in my way, there are some awful bugs in the
pods. Try deleting multiple variables or multiple conditions. After
you delete one, the
Scott,
What was the final size of the PDF? 11x17 or 8.5 x 11? Turn off the Generate
Acrobat Data--the PDF is probably being cropped.
Thanks,
Brad
On Feb 4, 2011, at 1:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:
> I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
> didn't get any marks
On 04/02/2011 2:46 PM, White, Scott wrote:
> I was trying to do a pdf output for print with Registration marks. I
> didn't get any marks in the rendered PDF.
> I used save as pdf, selected registration marks western, printed to
> 11x17 output just to see, and I got all I expected but the
PREACH IT sister!
Not only is the "Stalin gray" interface fugly and depressing (and much
darker than Adobe's other fugly gray interfaces), the whole pod/docking
behavior is incredibly time-wasting. Everything seems to want to glue
itself into everything else! Maybe it's a sign of having become
Hi,
I know most, if not all of you, love Frame and would never consider using MS
Word. I too use Frame for most of my projects.
However, I have MS Word files that need to be maintained by other authors
(technical support), and these same files are used in my online help.
I basically have a
Not ready to go there, friends. Yes, the gray is drear, indeed -- total
agreement on that point!! And, no, Adobe's first incarnation of
customizable UIs for Frame that can be adjusted (and restored) on the
fly isn't perfect. But I can do things with it I never could before,
and, all in all, I
Yes, Jacob and his company does have a workaround. I unfortunately forgot about
it.
Nonetheless, it is a workaround hack and it doesn't change the fact that
Framemaker
does not yet currently have a fully and/or properly functioning method of
getting
proper DeviceCMYK printing or PDF exactly
Angela Akridge wrote:
> I basically have a "hybrid" help system that calls both Frame source
> and MS
> Word source. I use WebWorks. The help output looks great, and a
> customer
> can't distinguish the underlying source. However, I need to link
> (cross-reference/hyperlink) between these two
I'm copying Bell Allums from WebWorks. There probably is a way but I
can't recall it.
You can also post this on the WebWorks user forum, which is a Yahoo
user group, search for it.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Angela Akridge
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I know most, if not all of you, love Frame and
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