Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[quills]

Alternatively, look into Silicone Prairie Software. He has a reasonably 
priced plug-in that will make a listing of your paragraph tags from a 
template and remove all non-list tags from your target document. I use 
this plug-in, the Character, and Table plug-ins to manage importation of 
documents from Word into FrameMaker.


Craig Ede wrote:

Pat,


You cut and paste the contents for your newly made FM file and paste it into a 
template that defines only the formats you mapped. Then import the para, char 
and table formats from the template to itself with remove overrides selected.


That should get rid of any of the excess formats. (I've done this in the past 
and it worked moderately well.)


Craig




From: Pat Christenson<[1]pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a
way to disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker
paragraph, character, and table catalogs?
Thanks.
Pat Christenson
Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
Morningstar, Inc.

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Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[Duszynski, Jim K]

I believe if you use option 3, and have text as a paragraph format, you can 
assign all those stray styles to the text pgf. And once you do, you can save a 
preset file of the mapping you performed. As we know because Word saves every 
variation of style, you will always have mapping to perform. But at least you 
can increasingly build the preset file.

To complete the import, the Silicon Prairie plugin, Paragraph Tools, is an 
effective tool to keep, delete and map document pgfs. Tools are also available 
for character and tables.

Jim
 
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I *always" go with option 2 as Word always has so much crud in the background. 

Maybe Frame is good at leaving that behind, but as a glass half empty kind of 
person, I'm not willing to take the chance.

Alison


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Not that I have come across--unless I'm missing something obvious. 

While I appreciate the new Word import feature (it has been in InDesign for 
some time), it works best if one is working with experienced Word users who 
know how to use styles properly. That is not always the case. 

The problem is when the Word file comes in with a bunch of unwanted styles 
(sometimes not even used in the document). Granted, one could import those 
styles and rename & reformat them or map them to existing styles, but that 
isn't how I like to work in many cases. A simple solution is for Adobe put back 
in an option to import as plain text (like the previous import dialog used to 
have). 

Option 1: a working "solution" is to open Word and copy the text. In 
FrameMaker, use the Paste Special menu and choose text. 
Option 2: save the Word file as text and import.
Option 3: go with the flow and map the Word styles to Frame styles, but that 
works best if all writers use styles consistently.

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
FrameMaker training since 1991


From: Pat Christenson <[1]pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
   If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a
   way to disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker
   paragraph, character, and table catalogs?
   Thanks.
   Pat Christenson
   Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
   Morningstar, Inc.

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Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[A Craig]

I *always" go with option 2 as Word always has so much crud in the
background. 

Maybe Frame is good at leaving that behind, but as a glass half empty kind
of person, I'm not willing to take the chance.

Alison


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Sent: December 13, 2017 8:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

Not that I have come across--unless I'm missing something obvious. 

While I appreciate the new Word import feature (it has been in InDesign for
some time), it works best if one is working with experienced Word users who
know how to use styles properly. That is not always the case. 

The problem is when the Word file comes in with a bunch of unwanted styles
(sometimes not even used in the document). Granted, one could import those
styles and rename & reformat them or map them to existing styles, but that
isn't how I like to work in many cases. A simple solution is for Adobe put
back in an option to import as plain text (like the previous import dialog
used to have). 

Option 1: a working "solution" is to open Word and copy the text. In
FrameMaker, use the Paste Special menu and choose text. 
Option 2: save the Word file as text and import.
Option 3: go with the flow and map the Word styles to Frame styles, but that
works best if all writers use styles consistently.

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
FrameMaker training since 1991


From: Pat Christenson <[1]pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
   If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a
   way to disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker
   paragraph, character, and table catalogs?
   Thanks.
   Pat Christenson
   Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
   Morningstar, Inc.

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Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[Craig Ede]

Pat,


You cut and paste the contents for your newly made FM file and paste it into a 
template that defines only the formats you mapped. Then import the para, char 
and table formats from the template to itself with remove overrides selected.


That should get rid of any of the excess formats. (I've done this in the past 
and it worked moderately well.)


Craig




From: Pat Christenson <[1]pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
   If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a
   way to disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker
   paragraph, character, and table catalogs?
   Thanks.
   Pat Christenson
   Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
   Morningstar, Inc.

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Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[David Creamer]

Not that I have come across--unless I'm missing something obvious. 

While I appreciate the new Word import feature (it has been in InDesign for
some time), it works best if one is working with experienced Word users who
know how to use styles properly. That is not always the case. 

The problem is when the Word file comes in with a bunch of unwanted styles
(sometimes not even used in the document). Granted, one could import those
styles and rename & reformat them or map them to existing styles, but that
isn't how I like to work in many cases. A simple solution is for Adobe put
back in an option to import as plain text (like the previous import dialog
used to have). 

Option 1: a working "solution" is to open Word and copy the text. In
FrameMaker, use the Paste Special menu and choose text. 
Option 2: save the Word file as text and import.
Option 3: go with the flow and map the Word styles to Frame styles, but that
works best if all writers use styles consistently.

David Creamer
IDEAS Training
FrameMaker training since 1991


From: Pat Christenson <[1]pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
   If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a
   way to disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker
   paragraph, character, and table catalogs?
   Thanks.
   Pat Christenson
   Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
   Morningstar, Inc.

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Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[Tammy Van Boening]

Hi All,

In my bucket of Framemscripts, I have one called
ImportandFormatWordDocs.fsl. It's been a long while since I have used this
script, but this coupled with Silicon Prairie's tool might get you what you
want much faster.  Let me know if you are interested in receiving a copy of
this script.



Tammy Van Boening
Owner/Principal
Spectrum Writing, LLC
www.spectrumwritingllc.com
303-840-1755 (Mountain Time)

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At 16:50 + 11/12/17, Pat Christenson wrote:
>Hi all -
>
>If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a way to
disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker paragraph,
character, and table catalogs?

Tangential to your issue, but SiliconPrairie's Paragraph Tools plug-in has
the ability to delete all unused paragraph formats. I have found this very
useful for cleaning up all the mess that Word import leaves behind.

--
Steve
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Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[Steve Rickaby]

At 16:50 + 11/12/17, Pat Christenson wrote:
>Hi all -
>
>If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a way to 
>disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker paragraph, 
>character, and table catalogs?

Tangential to your issue, but SiliconPrairie's Paragraph Tools plug-in has the 
ability to delete all unused paragraph formats. I have found this very useful 
for cleaning up all the mess that Word import leaves behind.

-- 
Steve
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Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[Moore, Gayle JAG:EX]

Pat,

I also wish to have this feature. Why import styles you don't need and never 
use?

Gayle

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Hi all -

If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a way to 
disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker paragraph, 
character, and table catalogs?

Thanks.


Pat Christenson
Senior Technical Writer, Client Education Morningstar, Inc.
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Re: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[David Artman]

   1. Map all formats. ;-)

   2. Leverage the ability to search for the created formats to apply
   appropriate styles; then delete the now-unused, spurious styles with
   your plugin of choice or by hand.

   Disabling that feature would lead to what? The unmapped styles all
   getting Default Para Text...? I wouldn't want that because at least an
   ad-hoc, spurious style displays something that might tell you how to
   apply a proper style.

   [Side note: Isn't there a mapping row for "unmapped" or "all others" in
   the Ref Pages? Or am I conflating FM with another tool stack?]

   David

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   Subject: [Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017
   From: Pat Christenson <[1]pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
   Date: Mon, December 11, 2017 11:50 am
   To: "[2]fram...@frameusers.com" <[3]fram...@frameusers.com>
   Hi all -
   If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a
   way to disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker
   paragraph, character, and table catalogs?
   Thanks.
   Pat Christenson
   Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
   Morningstar, Inc.
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[Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

[Pat Christenson]

Hi all -

If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a way to 
disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker paragraph, 
character, and table catalogs?

Thanks.


Pat Christenson
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