Adding Files to New Book

[Karen Robbins]

File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., 1frontmatter.fm,
2preface.fm)--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might
have 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in
the book window.

I previously had Frame 9. When I chose add files to fill a new book,
selected the files as a group, and clicked the Add button, the files
appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5)
were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the
book window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4,
5. I had to manually rearrange them.

We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I
imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files
listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to
manually rearrange them.

What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order
without manual intervention?

Thanks,
Karen
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RE: Adding Files to New Book

[Combs, Richard]

Karen Robbins wrote:
 
 I previously had Frame 9. When I chose add files to fill a new book,
 selected the files as a group, and clicked the Add button, the files
 appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) were
 ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book
 window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I had
 to manually rearrange them.
 
 We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I imported
 my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files listed
 vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to manually
 rearrange them.
 
 What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order
 without manual intervention?

I can't speak to FM 11, and I've never seen the half and half behavior. But I 
recall that the order in which they appear is the reverse of the order in which 
they're selected, with the exception of the first or last selected (I don't 
recall which). And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. That is, 
the same behavior occurred when selecting multiple files to add to an email 
message, etc. 

Try selecting in reverse order -- that is, select file 10 first and then 
shift-click file 1. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
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RE: Adding Files to New Book

[Combs, Richard]

Re: 
 And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. 

I should have pointed out explicitly what's implied by that statement: A change 
in Windows version may be more of a factor than a change in FM version. Did 
your version of Windows change when you went from FM 9 to FM 11? (Even a 
service pack could be a factor.) 

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Re: Adding Files to New Book

[Karen Robbins]

That works! Thank you. But... what odd behavior even for an OS. :-)

--Karen

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.comwrote:

 File  Add  Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as
 usual.

 On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., 
 1frontmatter.fm,
  2preface.fm)--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might
 have
  10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the
 book
  window.
 
  I previously had Frame 9. When I chose add files to fill a new book,
  selected the files as a group, and clicked the Add button, the files
  appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5)
  were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the
 book
  window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I
  had to manually rearrange them.
 
  We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I
  imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files
  listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to
  manually rearrange them.
 
  What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order
  without manual intervention?

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Re: Adding Files to New Book

[Robert Lauriston]

File  Add  Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as usual.

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote:
 File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., 1frontmatter.fm,
 2preface.fm)--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might have
 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the book
 window.

 I previously had Frame 9. When I chose add files to fill a new book,
 selected the files as a group, and clicked the Add button, the files
 appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5)
 were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book
 window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I
 had to manually rearrange them.

 We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I
 imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files
 listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to
 manually rearrange them.

 What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order
 without manual intervention?
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Re: Adding Files to New Book

[Ken Poshedly]

The file order has always been reversed for me when adding multiple files to a 
book going back to Frame 7 and possibly even Frame 5.5 which I learned back in 
1998).

And it didn't matter if it was Windows 98 or Windows XP (currently and for as 
long as possible).

-- Ken in Atlanta





From: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com
To: Combs, Richard richard.co...@polycom.com; Karen Robbins 
karendes...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com 
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Sent: Thu, January 17, 2013 3:26:01 PM
Subject: RE: Adding Files to New Book

Re: 
 And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. 

I should have pointed out explicitly what's implied by that statement: A change 
in Windows version may be more of a factor than a change in FM version. Did 
your 
version of Windows change when you went from FM 9 to FM 11? (Even a service 
pack 
could be a factor.) 


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Re: Adding Files to New Book

[Robert Lauriston]

Yeah, it is the opposite of what you'd expect. In this case, it's
Microsoft's fault, not Adobe's.

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Karen Robbins karendes...@gmail.com wrote:
 That works! Thank you. But... what odd behavior even for an OS. :-)

 --Karen


 On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com
 wrote:

 File  Add  Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as
 usual.
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Adding Files to New Book

[Karen Robbins]

File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., "1frontmatter.fm",
"2preface.fm")--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might
have 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in
the book window.

I previously had Frame 9. When I chose "add files" to fill a new book,
selected the files as a group, and clicked the "Add" button, the files
appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5)
were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the
book window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4,
5. I had to manually rearrange them.

We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I
imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files
listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to
manually rearrange them.

What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order
without manual intervention?

Thanks,
Karen
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[Combs, Richard]

Karen Robbins wrote:

> I previously had Frame 9. When I chose "add files" to fill a new book,
> selected the files as a group, and clicked the "Add" button, the files
> appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5) were
> ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book
> window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I had
> to manually rearrange them.
> 
> We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I imported
> my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files listed
> vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to manually
> rearrange them.
> 
> What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order
> without manual intervention?

I can't speak to FM 11, and I've never seen the "half and half" behavior. But I 
recall that the order in which they appear is the reverse of the order in which 
they're selected, with the exception of the first or last selected (I don't 
recall which). And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. That is, 
the same behavior occurred when selecting multiple files to add to an email 
message, etc. 

Try selecting in reverse order -- that is, select file 10 first and then 
shift-click file 1. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--

Adding Files to New Book

[Combs, Richard]

Re: 
> And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. 

I should have pointed out explicitly what's implied by that statement: A change 
in Windows version may be more of a factor than a change in FM version. Did 
your version of Windows change when you went from FM 9 to FM 11? (Even a 
service pack could be a factor.) 

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--

Adding Files to New Book

[Karen Robbins]

That works! Thank you. But... what odd behavior even for an OS. :-)

--Karen

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

> File > Add > Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as
> usual.
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Karen Robbins 
> wrote:
> > File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., "
> 1frontmatter.fm",
> > "2preface.fm")--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might
> have
> > 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the
> book
> > window.
> >
> > I previously had Frame 9. When I chose "add files" to fill a new book,
> > selected the files as a group, and clicked the "Add" button, the files
> > appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5)
> > were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the
> book
> > window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I
> > had to manually rearrange them.
> >
> > We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I
> > imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files
> > listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to
> > manually rearrange them.
> >
> > What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order
> > without manual intervention?
>
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[Robert Lauriston]

File > Add > Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as usual.

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Karen Robbins  
wrote:
> File names for my publication begin with a numeral (e.g., "1frontmatter.fm",
> "2preface.fm")--helps keep them in order more easily. Typically I might have
> 10 files to assemble into a book; they appear in ascending order in the book
> window.
>
> I previously had Frame 9. When I chose "add files" to fill a new book,
> selected the files as a group, and clicked the "Add" button, the files
> appeared in the wrong order in the book window: half (files 1 through 5)
> were ascending and half (files 5 through 10) were descending. So in the book
> window, the files listed vertically were 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I
> had to manually rearrange them.
>
> We recently moved to Frame 11. I just created a new book into which I
> imported my files for the new edition. Using the same steps, the files
> listed vertically are 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And I still have to
> manually rearrange them.
>
> What causes this and how can I get the files to appear in ascending order
> without manual intervention?

Adding Files to New Book

[Ken Poshedly]

The file order has always been reversed for me when adding multiple files to a 
book going back to Frame 7 and possibly even Frame 5.5 which I learned back in 
1998).

And it didn't matter if it was Windows 98 or Windows XP (currently and for as 
long as possible).

-- Ken in Atlanta





From: "Combs, Richard" <richard.co...@polycom.com>
To: "Combs, Richard" ; Karen Robbins 
; "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 

Sent: Thu, January 17, 2013 3:26:01 PM
Subject: RE: Adding Files to New Book

Re: 
> And this was a Windows behavior, not an FM behavior. 

I should have pointed out explicitly what's implied by that statement: A change 
in Windows version may be more of a factor than a change in FM version. Did 
your 
version of Windows change when you went from FM 9 to FM 11? (Even a service 
pack 
could be a factor.) 


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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Adding Files to New Book

[Robert Lauriston]

Yeah, it is the opposite of what you'd expect. In this case, it's
Microsoft's fault, not Adobe's.

On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Karen Robbins  
wrote:
> That works! Thank you. But... what odd behavior even for an OS. :-)
>
> --Karen
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Robert Lauriston 
> wrote:
>>
>> File > Add > Files, click the Name header to sort backwards, proceed as
>> usual.