Bibliographic software for FM?

2006-08-28 Thread Alan Litchfield

Moores wrote:
>
> I haven't had the luxury of anything except hand-built reference lists
> before-- how painful is the RTF export part of the process (that builds
> the library?) for EndNote? Are other programs more compatible and still
> effective? Who has the magic website with a feature comparison list? (I
> did search before posting.)
>

Endnote used to process mif, but it appears that this is no longer the case. I
have not it tested though.

So, will the word processing documents be compiled once they are written?
Perhaps your writers can use Cite As You Write in Word and then have those
documents brought into FM when done. That way all the reference lists will be
complete and the citations will be correctly matched. It may be useful to
consider linking the documents so that any further changes can be updated. All
you need to ensure then is that they follow the rules of formatting (something
that seems to be very difficult to enforce with users of MSW, I've found).

Alan




Re: Bibliographic software for FM?

2006-08-28 Thread Art Campbell

My oen (limited) experience, from crafting my own thesis and doing
several academic books is that with Frame, the easiest way to craft
Chicago-style footnotes and eventually a bibliography was to create
kind of a flat-file database. By that I mean creating a separate FM
file with a unique set of tags, one tag for each element in a
citation: Title, Author, Year, etc.

Enter the information using the appropriate tags, one chunk of info to a line.

In the actual FM working files, in the footnotes, set up
cross-references to the appropriate entry, so that the footnote is
built from a set of cross-references.

If you're really good, you can make the source file the bibliography
file too. ;- )

Art


On 8/25/06, Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greetings, Frame Magicians!

I am contracting at a company that is about to compile a large report
that will include many graphics and many bibliographic citations.
Although the diverse authors will draft in MS Word, our preference is
for the final document to be in Framemaker (7.0). We are looking for
recommendations for reference management software-- some of the authors
have some familiarity with EndNote, but they will purchase based on the
best program for this and future projects.

I haven't had the luxury of anything except hand-built reference lists
before-- how painful is the RTF export part of the process (that builds
the library?) for EndNote? Are other programs more compatible and still
effective? Who has the magic website with a feature comparison list? (I
did search before posting.)

I've downloaded the EndNote trial to play with but the company is eager
to move quickly so I am pursuing this path of wisdom as well as my own
self-education route.

Thank you for any assistance,

Kathleen Moore
mooresd h pacbell.net


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Re: Bibliographic software for FM?

2006-08-28 Thread Alan Litchfield

Moores wrote:
>
> I haven't had the luxury of anything except hand-built reference lists
> before-- how painful is the RTF export part of the process (that builds
> the library?) for EndNote? Are other programs more compatible and still
> effective? Who has the magic website with a feature comparison list? (I
> did search before posting.)
>

Endnote used to process mif, but it appears that this is no longer the case. I
have not it tested though.

So, will the word processing documents be compiled once they are written?
Perhaps your writers can use Cite As You Write in Word and then have those
documents brought into FM when done. That way all the reference lists will be
complete and the citations will be correctly matched. It may be useful to
consider linking the documents so that any further changes can be updated. All
you need to ensure then is that they follow the rules of formatting (something
that seems to be very difficult to enforce with users of MSW, I've found).

Alan

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Bibliographic software for FM?

2006-08-27 Thread Art Campbell
My oen (limited) experience, from crafting my own thesis and doing
several academic books is that with Frame, the easiest way to craft
Chicago-style footnotes and eventually a bibliography was to create
kind of a flat-file database. By that I mean creating a separate FM
file with a unique set of tags, one tag for each element in a
citation: Title, Author, Year, etc.

Enter the information using the appropriate tags, one chunk of info to a line.

In the actual FM working files, in the footnotes, set up
cross-references to the appropriate entry, so that the footnote is
built from a set of cross-references.

If you're really good, you can make the source file the bibliography
file too. ;- )

Art


On 8/25/06, Moores  wrote:
> Greetings, Frame Magicians!
>
> I am contracting at a company that is about to compile a large report
> that will include many graphics and many bibliographic citations.
> Although the diverse authors will draft in MS Word, our preference is
> for the final document to be in Framemaker (7.0). We are looking for
> recommendations for reference management software-- some of the authors
> have some familiarity with EndNote, but they will purchase based on the
> best program for this and future projects.
>
> I haven't had the luxury of anything except hand-built reference lists
> before-- how painful is the RTF export part of the process (that builds
> the library?) for EndNote? Are other programs more compatible and still
> effective? Who has the magic website with a feature comparison list? (I
> did search before posting.)
>
> I've downloaded the EndNote trial to play with but the company is eager
> to move quickly so I am pursuing this path of wisdom as well as my own
> self-education route.
>
> Thank you for any assistance,
>
> Kathleen Moore
> mooresd h pacbell.net
>
>
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Bibliographic software for FM?

2006-08-25 Thread Moores

Greetings, Frame Magicians!

I am contracting at a company that is about to compile a large report 
that will include many graphics and many bibliographic citations. 
Although the diverse authors will draft in MS Word, our preference is 
for the final document to be in Framemaker (7.0). We are looking for 
recommendations for reference management software-- some of the authors 
have some familiarity with EndNote, but they will purchase based on the 
best program for this and future projects.


I haven't had the luxury of anything except hand-built reference lists 
before-- how painful is the RTF export part of the process (that builds 
the library?) for EndNote? Are other programs more compatible and still 
effective? Who has the magic website with a feature comparison list? (I 
did search before posting.)


I've downloaded the EndNote trial to play with but the company is eager 
to move quickly so I am pursuing this path of wisdom as well as my own 
self-education route.


Thank you for any assistance,

Kathleen Moore
mooresd h pacbell.net


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Bibliographic software for FM?

2006-08-25 Thread Moores
Greetings, Frame Magicians!

I am contracting at a company that is about to compile a large report 
that will include many graphics and many bibliographic citations. 
Although the diverse authors will draft in MS Word, our preference is 
for the final document to be in Framemaker (7.0). We are looking for 
recommendations for reference management software-- some of the authors 
have some familiarity with EndNote, but they will purchase based on the 
best program for this and future projects.

I haven't had the luxury of anything except hand-built reference lists 
before-- how painful is the RTF export part of the process (that builds 
the library?) for EndNote? Are other programs more compatible and still 
effective? Who has the magic website with a feature comparison list? (I 
did search before posting.)

I've downloaded the EndNote trial to play with but the company is eager 
to move quickly so I am pursuing this path of wisdom as well as my own 
self-education route.

Thank you for any assistance,

Kathleen Moore
mooresd h pacbell.net