RE: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

2009-01-08 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi Denise,

They FM hypertext dialog box gives the wrong information for setting up a
hypertext link for email.
It should be:message URL mailto:n...@company.com

Best,
Diane

(with credit to Jeremy Griffith at Omni Systems for pointing that out on
January 1)

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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:46 AM
To: 'Art Campbell'
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat


Art,

The syntax works fine as:

 message url brachyh...@varian.com

with Acrobat converting the complete address as an active email link.

When the syntax includes support- as follows:

 Message url support-ameri...@varian.com

Acrobat converts the link to ameri...@varian.com, dropping the support-
portion of the address.

Best,

Denise L. Moss-Fritch

-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:29 AM
To: Denise L. Moss-Fritch
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

Is your product string a Frame variable, or literal text with
brackets, or something else?
Do the hypertext links work in Frame?

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campb...@gmail.com
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Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch
d.mossfri...@comcast.net wrote:
 We have run into a problem with Acrobat (v8.x) converting only part of
 FrameMaker (v7 and 8) Hypertext tags. Our company uses a text insert for
 support information. In that text insert is a list of several email
 addresses for support of various products. A Hypertext tag was inserted
for
 each email address to convert those addresses in Acrobat so the addresses
 are active links.



 The Hypertext dialog in FrameMaker identifies Message Client as the
Command,
 with message url email address as the Syntax message clientname
 parameters. All email addresses that are single words before @ convert
fine.
 However, those email addresses that use support-product@ drop the
support-
 portion of the address.



 How can we include the support- portion of the address when converting to
 Acrobat Thanks.



 Best,



 Denise L. Moss-Fritch

 Lead Technical Writer

 Varian Medical Systems

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RE: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

2009-01-08 Thread d . mossfritch
Thanks Diane. Our Munich, Germany office sent me an email with the same 
correction. They found the problem Wednesday (their time) and worked on a 
solution Thursday (again, their time). Our support text inserts are now correct.

Best,

 Denise

-- Original message -- 
From: Diane Gaskill dgcal...@earthlink.net 

 Hi Denise, 
 
 They FM hypertext dialog box gives the wrong information for setting up a 
 hypertext link for email. 
 It should be: message URL mailto:n...@company.com 
 
 Best, 
 Diane 
 
 (with credit to Jeremy Griffith at Omni Systems for pointing that out on 
 January 1) 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com]on Behalf Of Denise L. 
 Moss-Fritch 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:46 AM 
 To: 'Art Campbell' 
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Subject: RE: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat 
 
 
 Art, 
 
 The syntax works fine as: 
 
 message url brachyh...@varian.com 
 
 with Acrobat converting the complete address as an active email link. 
 
 When the syntax includes support- as follows: 
 
 Message url support-ameri...@varian.com 
 
 Acrobat converts the link to ameri...@varian.com, dropping the support- 
 portion of the address. 
 
 Best, 
 
 Denise L. Moss-Fritch 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:29 AM 
 To: Denise L. Moss-Fritch 
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Subject: Re: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat 
 
 Is your string a Frame variable, or literal text with 
 brackets, or something else? 
 Do the hypertext links work in Frame? 
 
 Art 
 
 Art Campbell 
 art.campb...@gmail.com 
 ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 
 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson 
 No disclaimers apply. 
 DoD 358 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch 
 wrote: 
  We have run into a problem with Acrobat (v8.x) converting only part of 
  FrameMaker (v7 and 8) Hypertext tags. Our company uses a text insert for 
  support information. In that text insert is a list of several email 
  addresses for support of various products. A Hypertext tag was inserted 
 for 
  each email address to convert those addresses in Acrobat so the addresses 
  are active links. 
  
  
  
  The Hypertext dialog in FrameMaker identifies Message Client as the 
 Command, 
  with message url as the Syntax message clientname 
  parameters. All email addresses that are single words before @ convert 
 fine. 
  However, those email addresses that use support-@ drop the 
 support- 
  portion of the address. 
  
  
  
  How can we include the support- portion of the address when converting to 
  Acrobat Thanks. 
  
  
  
  Best, 
  
  
  
  Denise L. Moss-Fritch 
  
  Lead Technical Writer 
  
  Varian Medical Systems 
  
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Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

2009-01-08 Thread d.mossfri...@comcast.net
Thanks Diane. Our Munich, Germany office sent me an email with the same 
correction. They found the problem Wednesday (their time) and worked on a 
solution Thursday (again, their time). Our support text inserts are now correct.

Best,

 Denise

-- Original message -- 
From: "Diane Gaskill" <dgcal...@earthlink.net> 

> Hi Denise, 
> 
> They FM hypertext dialog box gives the wrong information for setting up a 
> hypertext link for email. 
> It should be: message URL mailto:name at company.com 
> 
> Best, 
> Diane 
> 
> (with credit to Jeremy Griffith at Omni Systems for pointing that out on 
> January 1) 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Denise L. 
> Moss-Fritch 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:46 AM 
> To: 'Art Campbell' 
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
> Subject: RE: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat 
> 
> 
> Art, 
> 
> The syntax works fine as: 
> 
> message url brachyhelp at varian.com 
> 
> with Acrobat converting the complete address as an active email link. 
> 
> When the syntax includes support- as follows: 
> 
> Message url support-americas at varian.com 
> 
> Acrobat converts the link to americas at varian.com, dropping the support- 
> portion of the address. 
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campbell at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:29 AM 
> To: Denise L. Moss-Fritch 
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
> Subject: Re: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat 
> 
> Is your string a Frame variable, or literal text with 
> brackets, or something else? 
> Do the hypertext links work in Frame? 
> 
> Art 
> 
> Art Campbell 
> art.campbell at gmail.com 
> "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson 
> No disclaimers apply. 
> DoD 358 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch 
> wrote: 
> > We have run into a problem with Acrobat (v8.x) converting only part of 
> > FrameMaker (v7 and 8) Hypertext tags. Our company uses a text insert for 
> > support information. In that text insert is a list of several email 
> > addresses for support of various products. A Hypertext tag was inserted 
> for 
> > each email address to convert those addresses in Acrobat so the addresses 
> > are active links. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The Hypertext dialog in FrameMaker identifies Message Client as the 
> Command, 
> > with message url as the Syntax message clientname 
> > parameters. All email addresses that are single words before @ convert 
> fine. 
> > However, those email addresses that use support-@ drop the 
> support- 
> > portion of the address. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How can we include the support- portion of the address when converting to 
> > Acrobat Thanks. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Best, 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Denise L. Moss-Fritch 
> > 
> > Lead Technical Writer 
> > 
> > Varian Medical Systems 
> > 
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Re: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

2009-01-07 Thread Shlomo Perets
Denise,

You wrote:

We have run into a problem with Acrobat (v8.x) converting only part of
FrameMaker (v7 and 8) Hypertext tags. Our company uses a text insert for
support information. In that text insert is a list of several email
addresses for support of various products. A Hypertext tag was inserted for
each email address to convert those addresses in Acrobat so the addresses
are active links.

The Hypertext dialog in FrameMaker identifies Message Client as the Command,
with message url email address as the Syntax message clientname
parameters. All email addresses that are single words before @ convert fine.
However, those email addresses that use support-product@ drop the support-
portion of the address.

How can we include the support- portion of the address when converting to
Acrobat Thanks.


The problematic e-mail links are not real links in Acrobat; the activity 
you see is related to the Automatically detect URLs from text preference 
(Edit  Preferences, General; in Acrobat/Reader 8+: Create Links from URLs).

Acrobat's interpretation of text-based web addresses is problematic when 
the URL is split between lines, or when the underlying text is not 
recognized properly.

In Acrobat/Reader *7*, in the case of e-mail addresses, the presence of 
characters such as dash, dot or underscore indeed causes a problem in the 
interpretation (so a...@company.com or a...@company.com are interpreted as 
b...@company.com).
This truncation problem should not be encountered, however, in 
Acrobat/Reader 8 and 9, where the bug is fixed.


In any case, the hypertext syntax to use is:
message URL mailto:address

(if URL is lower-case, no real link is generated).


Shlomo Perets

MicroType * http://www.microtype.com
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Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

2009-01-07 Thread Denise L. Moss-Fritch
We have run into a problem with Acrobat (v8.x) converting only part of
FrameMaker (v7 and 8) Hypertext tags. Our company uses a text insert for
support information. In that text insert is a list of several email
addresses for support of various products. A Hypertext tag was inserted for
each email address to convert those addresses in Acrobat so the addresses
are active links.



The Hypertext dialog in FrameMaker identifies Message Client as the Command,
with message url  as the Syntax message clientname
parameters. All email addresses that are single words before @ convert fine.
However, those email addresses that use support-@ drop the support-
portion of the address.



How can we include the support- portion of the address when converting to
Acrobat Thanks.



Best,



Denise L. Moss-Fritch

Lead Technical Writer

Varian Medical Systems



Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

2009-01-07 Thread Art Campbell
Is your  string a Frame variable, or literal text with
brackets, or something else?
Do the hypertext links work in Frame?

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch
 wrote:
> We have run into a problem with Acrobat (v8.x) converting only part of
> FrameMaker (v7 and 8) Hypertext tags. Our company uses a text insert for
> support information. In that text insert is a list of several email
> addresses for support of various products. A Hypertext tag was inserted for
> each email address to convert those addresses in Acrobat so the addresses
> are active links.
>
>
>
> The Hypertext dialog in FrameMaker identifies Message Client as the Command,
> with message url  as the Syntax message clientname
> parameters. All email addresses that are single words before @ convert fine.
> However, those email addresses that use support-@ drop the support-
> portion of the address.
>
>
>
> How can we include the support- portion of the address when converting to
> Acrobat Thanks.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch
>
> Lead Technical Writer
>
> Varian Medical Systems
>
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Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

2009-01-07 Thread Denise L. Moss-Fritch
Art,

The syntax works fine as:

 message url brachyhelp at varian.com

with Acrobat converting the complete address as an active email link.

When the syntax includes support- as follows:

 Message url support-americas at varian.com

Acrobat converts the link to americas at varian.com, dropping the support-
portion of the address.

Best,

Denise L. Moss-Fritch

-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:29 AM
To: Denise L. Moss-Fritch
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

Is your  string a Frame variable, or literal text with
brackets, or something else?
Do the hypertext links work in Frame?

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch
 wrote:
> We have run into a problem with Acrobat (v8.x) converting only part of
> FrameMaker (v7 and 8) Hypertext tags. Our company uses a text insert for
> support information. In that text insert is a list of several email
> addresses for support of various products. A Hypertext tag was inserted
for
> each email address to convert those addresses in Acrobat so the addresses
> are active links.
>
>
>
> The Hypertext dialog in FrameMaker identifies Message Client as the
Command,
> with message url  as the Syntax message clientname
> parameters. All email addresses that are single words before @ convert
fine.
> However, those email addresses that use support-@ drop the
support-
> portion of the address.
>
>
>
> How can we include the support- portion of the address when converting to
> Acrobat Thanks.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch
>
> Lead Technical Writer
>
> Varian Medical Systems
>
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Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

2009-01-07 Thread David Spreadbury
Denise,
Have you tried adding mailto:?
?
message url support-americas at varian.com
?
to
?
message url mailto:support-americas at varian.com

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Denise L. Moss-Fritch  wrote:

From: Denise L. Moss-Fritch <d.mossfri...@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat
To: "'Art Campbell'" 
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 9:45 AM

Art,

The syntax works fine as:

 message url brachyhelp at varian.com

with Acrobat converting the complete address as an active email link.

When the syntax includes support- as follows:

 Message url support-americas at varian.com

Acrobat converts the link to americas at varian.com, dropping the support-
portion of the address.

Best,

Denise L. Moss-Fritch

-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:29 AM
To: Denise L. Moss-Fritch
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

Is your  string a Frame variable, or literal text with
brackets, or something else?
Do the hypertext links work in Frame?

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358



On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Denise L. Moss-Fritch
 wrote:
> We have run into a problem with Acrobat (v8.x) converting only part of
> FrameMaker (v7 and 8) Hypertext tags. Our company uses a text insert for
> support information. In that text insert is a list of several email
> addresses for support of various products. A Hypertext tag was inserted
for
> each email address to convert those addresses in Acrobat so the addresses
> are active links.
>
>
>
> The Hypertext dialog in FrameMaker identifies Message Client as the
Command,
> with message url  as the Syntax message clientname
> parameters. All email addresses that are single words before @ convert
fine.
> However, those email addresses that use support-@ drop the
support-
> portion of the address.
>
>
>
> How can we include the support- portion of the address when converting to
> Acrobat Thanks.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Denise L. Moss-Fritch
>
> Lead Technical Writer
>
> Varian Medical Systems
>
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Converting FrameMaker Marker tags with Acrobat

2009-01-07 Thread Stuart Rogers
Denise L. Moss-Fritch wrote:
> We have run into a problem with Acrobat (v8.x) converting only part of
> FrameMaker (v7 and 8) Hypertext tags. Our company uses a text insert for
> support information. In that text insert is a list of several email
> addresses for support of various products. A Hypertext tag was inserted for
> each email address to convert those addresses in Acrobat so the addresses
> are active links.
> 
>  
> 
> The Hypertext dialog in FrameMaker identifies Message Client as the Command,
> with message url  as the Syntax message clientname
> parameters. All email addresses that are single words before @ convert fine.
> However, those email addresses that use support-@ drop the support-
> portion of the address.
> 
>  
> 
> How can we include the support- portion of the address when converting to
> Acrobat Thanks.
> 

Try using %2D in place of the hyphen (the same way you would use %20 to 
indicate a space in a URL).

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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